My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[tremonthustler1]

This is a quick outline I put together.

This season:

• Losing every game left on the schedule. Getting the highest pick possible.
• Shutting down KP if he continues to look banged up
• Knicks are 3-7 in their last ten, which included a last second jumper by melo. Every team below them in the standings (or ahead, depending on how you look at it) has an equal, or BETTER record over their last 10. Obviously I'm not counting the Nets here, because they're 0-10, but everyone else has a chance to out play the knicks down the stretch. If they climb to 4 or 5, that would be really incredible for us.

This offseason:

• Listening to offers from contenders for Lee (who is better offensively than advertised, but worse defensively) -- preferably for a first round pick.
• Seeing how the east shakes out, and finding out whether a team that has a shot at the Cavs would be willing to cash chips for Melo (unlikely)
• Holy fukk do not resign Derrick Rose
• Drafting the player with the highest possible ceiling with their first pick. Highest positional need is a point guard, but if we end up with the 8th-9th pick, those options might be gone. I really like Jackson/Isaac, in the non PG roles. Of the PGs, I think we'd be lucky to have Fultz, Ball, Smith, or Nkitilina. If they're all gone, you gotta maybe look at one of the bigs.
• Buy a pick in the late first if possible, and looking for either a draft/stash (Jeanne? Lessort?) or a guy who falls for non-basketball reasons (like harry giles, if he continues to struggle to recover from his injury), somebody with one single skill we can utilize, or a guy that you can see stepping in and being a rotation player, a lot of people like Blossomgame in that kind of a wing/forward role. I gotta do some more scouting.
• Use the second round picks to shoot your shot, or stash guys with potential. Whether that means Alpha Kaba, or guys like Trier/Briscoe/Brooks/Bolden is up to you. I have a lot of work to do on my 2nd round scouting, might wanna ask @Malta or @tremonthustler1 how they've pegged in those ranges.
• KP continues to get stronger, so he can take advantage of smaller defenders around the hoop.
• Focus free agency on younger, under-the-radar signings, guys that need opportunity. Terrence Jones, who is already on waivers right now, jumps out at me.

Next Season:

• Assuming melo is there, next season will look a lot like this season, but with another good young 1st rounder.
• Stop forcing the fukking triangle, let Hornacek open up the offense.
• I still think there should be an effort to move Melo for picks/young players if that is possible, because he deserves to have a shot with a good team, and the Knicks aren't anywhere near competing.
• Demand KP take a more assertive role in the office, attack mismatches, etc.
• Decide whether guys like Kuzminskas, Baker, etc can be in the future plans.
• Fire anyone that mentions trading away picks.
• Set up Joakim Noah in some kind of sextape scandal, and try to get relief from his contract

@ogc163 I would say most of this. There's no real need to tank. You guys can do bad by yourselves. Play Hernangomez a ton, Kuz a lot, Baker and Randle. Hell, if you shut down KP, let Plumlee play some too. If you win at all down the stretch, do it off the strength of the youth.

For this summer,

- Let Rose go
-Make Hernangomez the permanent starter
-Trade Lee for hopefully a top 20 pick, no lower than 22 (I say this because Belinelli was traded for the #22 pick last year (I'd target Indiana)
- depending on where you land, best PG available. With round 2, draft another big like Kaba should he be there or get a shooter.

make minimal moves altogether. Phil to his credit has managed to do well there. I'd sign either Collison or Burke to a 1 year deal to smooth things out for whoever you draft at PG.

 

[Malta]

@Malta,@I.V., @tremonthustler1 What do you feel a true rebuild with the Knicks should look like? I'm specifically looking at the next two years.

To add on to what @I.V. @tremonthustler1 have already covered, I'd also look at trades for young guys who may not get a chance to develop with their current teams -

Dante Exum
Mario Hezonja
Terry Rozier
Stanley Johnson
Shabazz Muhammad
Rashad Vaughn



They would all be on my list of players to target via trade during the next two years, some of them will be coming up on extensions, all of them are 1st round talent stuck behind other players. The tank is all about player development and getting players that line up their ages with the players on your team already, and I view a lot of those guys as risks because their development has been hurt by their current teams.

 

[Derek Lee]

 

[Miles Davis]

I've got a bad feeling about the future brehs

We should be shutting KP down for the season like the 76ers have done.

 

[DPresidential]

I've got a bad feeling about the future brehs

We should be shutting KP down for the season like the 76ers have done.

If it appears that he has lingering issues... Yes, shut him down.

But to shut him down of there is no imminent risk? Nah.

 

[Miles Davis]

If it appears that he has lingering issues... Yes, shut him down.

But to shut him down of there is no imminent risk? Nah.

I'm saying shut him down cause he looked like he been battling some stuff for awhile now. But I'll be honest that's I haven't been really keeping up consistently since January. I just don't want him to get and stay hurt since he's still young.

 

[ikbm]

@ogc163 I would say most of this. There's no real need to tank. You guys can do bad by yourselves. Play Hernangomez a ton, Kuz a lot, Baker and Randle. Hell, if you shut down KP, let Plumlee play some too. If you win at all down the stretch, do it off the strength of the youth.

For this summer,

- Let Rose go
-Make Hernangomez the permanent starter
-Trade Lee for hopefully a top 20 pick, no lower than 22 (I say this because Belinelli was traded for the #22 pick last year (I'd target Indiana)
- depending on where you land, best PG available. With round 2, draft another big like Kaba should he be there or get a shooter.

make minimal moves altogether. Phil to his credit has managed to do well there. I'd sign either Collison or Burke to a 1 year deal to smooth things out for whoever you draft at PG.

burke? trey bumass burke?...dude thats gonna lose his job to brandon jennings? that guy?
hes bad and barely qualifies as a settling veteran...but on the other hand it would force the hypothetical pg we draft to play 35 minutes a night
i do like collison....him coming off that domestic case should make him cheap and easy to get on a short deal

 

[Illuminatos]

Must lose game.

 

[tremonthustler1]

burke? trey bumass burke?...dude thats gonna lose his job to brandon jennings? that guy?
hes bad and barely qualifies as a settling veteran...but on the other hand it would force the hypothetical pg we draft to play 35 minutes a night
i do like collison....him coming off that domestic case should make him cheap and easy to get on a short deal

There's only but so many options out there that you can deem replaceable once your new PG is ready

 

[I.V.]

There's only but so many options out there that you can deem replaceable once your new PG is ready

Yeah, you gotta walk the line of getting somebody who can play nba basketball, but you don't mind kicking to the curb as soon as possible.

 

[Wargames]

At this point when someone says the Knicks are "emphasizing running the triangle". I hear "Knicks are tanking for a higher pick".

 

[DPresidential]

For shyt like this...I won't miss him.

 

[KingB137]

For shyt like this...I won't miss him.

Yall need to quit reaching fam. KP bricked five shots he passed to him already so he passed to a wide open Melo instead.

 

[Miles Davis]

The Baker

 

[ikbm]

Yall need to quit reaching fam. KP bricked five shots he passed to him already so he passed to a wide open Melo instead.

problem is...
high iq pg's always make that pass
i'll be damned if chris paul sees a 40 percent 3pt shooter thats open and doesnt pass to him.
i'm gonna be honest. he doesnt have the vision.