My NYC Black Folk......Gentrification

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would you rather live among a bunch of poor violent negroes (no 'cism) or elitist, hipster CACs? If you want to be safe, we all know the answer. Yeah, I'd rather Harlem be gentrified by nice professional black people, but there aren't enough of us to do that.

I gotta be honest, I live in a neighborhood with a bunch of :skip: as soon as I got the money to move after I finished school I did.
 

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Where is this gentrification going on in the Bronx?Because I don't see it :heh::heh: This place is the last of the mohicans
 

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:stopitslime::stopitslime::comeon::comeon:

Paying that much to live across the street from these nikkas... :damn::stopitslime:
 
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As someone who didn't grow up in a city, I'm curious about how gentrification is perceived by the people being pushed out.

I know in NYC a lot of it seems to have racial implications, which obviously complicates the emotions of it, but what is the crux of the issue? Is it because your forced to move from where you grew up because the cost of living is to expensive? Is it the physical change of the neighborhood? Is the lost sense of community?

I just find the topic interesting.

I was 'priced out' of the town I grew up in when I became old enough to buy a house and had to move to a down I always shytted on to get a better bang for my buck. However, the town invested in itself to attract more businesses, which attracted more people, which drove up the costs, so I am not mad at them.
 

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Its not complex. Gentrification would be impossible, or at the minimum very difficult, if the folks being pushed out owned the buildings they live in. As cheap as much of this real estate was when the neighborhoods were undesirable, it's not such a far fetched idea.

This isn't to say outside forces are any help. Bloomberg's goofy tax abatements & "vision of a luxury city" have only accelerated things. And of course there is the issue of NYC just being a city with money during a recession, which is drawing in career oriented folks and driving up demand organically.

I mean when I started working, owning a condo etc were within reach. I just needed the capital. Now I am making a bit more money, but RE prices have zoomed past my income growth. I am priced out of a home fit for a family in NYC, and am far from broke. The city is on an unsustainable trajectory.
 

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As someone who didn't grow up in a city, I'm curious about how gentrification is perceived by the people being pushed out.

I know in NYC a lot of it seems to have racial implications, which obviously complicates the emotions of it, but what is the crux of the issue? Is it because your forced to move from where you grew up because the cost of living is to expensive? Is it the physical change of the neighborhood? Is the lost sense of community?

I just find the topic interesting.

I was 'priced out' of the town I grew up in when I became old enough to buy a house and had to move to a down I always shytted on to get a better bang for my buck. However, the town invested in itself to attract more businesses, which attracted more people, which drove up the costs, so I am not mad at them.

Personally here in NYC I can't get mad at the midwestern white kids or the building owners, I think most of the issues here in NYC are policy driven. For decades you had a system that was overwhelmingly in favor of long time tenants that interfered with the incentives on the part of landlords and real estate developers. With the cost of living going up even when you exclude housing expenses, you have older folks leaving and new people being able to cover the higher expenses. Under ideal circumstances NYC should/could have experienced a housing/apartment boom over the last 2-3 decades that would have increased the supply of housing while over time seeing decreasing prices, but we have stupid rent control, zoning laws, and other misguided laws that leads to limited supply coupled with high demand.
 
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