My Master's Wasn't Worth It

[acri1]

That sucks.

 

[Serious]

The problem is when people think "Hey i'll get a masters, couldn't hurt right!?" Just getting a masters without a plan, or a foot in the door of a company is a bad idea. If you get an mba from some state school without already working for a company, it's a bad idea. Basically these people just thought "the more degrees I have the higher the chance I can get a good paying job!" WRONG. You need better strategy with this shyt than just collecting random degrees from colleges people never heard of.

That being said i'm glad im going into the medical field

Honestly an employer once told me, people can get away with a university of Phoenix degree, if they've already been working for a company and just need a degree for a promotion...

 

[No1]

Honestly an employer once told me, people can get away with a university of Phoenix degree, if they've already been working for a company and just need a degree for a promotion...

I don't know about all that. But then again, I'm around "prestige" who type professions all the time. But Princepality said all that needed to be said in this thread, people who go and get degrees for no reason. MBA is useless without work experience, completely useless. Most of MBA programs are just networking. Literally my boys at the b-school right next to us are given class budgets just for going to the bar. (Yeah it's one of those elite programs). The point is, just because someone is educated doesn't mean they have fiscal sense. That's one of the biggest problems and why I always say that some sort of finance should be taught in high school. People don't think. The people I know who do this shyt and bytch the least are the ones who did it while being fully aware of the odds. They just said fukk it and went for it. These people sound clueless.

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Didn't even need to read this shyt. My brother worked his ass off got a MBA in social planning or some bullshyt and is a C.O now telling prisoners its lockdown and shyt

Dude could of just got a finance degree and work for my father but too much pride

 

[Reid2Achieve]

Honestly an employer once told me, people can get away with a university of Phoenix degree, if they've already been working for a company and just need a degree for a promotion...

This is true...my mom got a MBA from some for-profit school and then got promoted to a department director (some accounting shyt) and is making well over 6 figures now. Once you're already with a company it doesn't matter how prestigious your degree is. That prestige is only helpful for initially getting hired. From there its just experience and adding credentials.

Don't get a masters unless you're trying to move up from your current professional position. If you've never had a job in that career field you're taking a huge risk.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yep its just got to play into the plan. If your company will pay for an MBA and promote you once you get it youd be a fool not to. If you go back "just cause" youre an idiot.

 

[PikaDaDon]

Props. I actually needed to read this. I've been kicking around the idea of going back and getting an MBA "just to have"...

Same here but I already own a business, however, I would feel a bit more confident with a formal education. When I started I was wildly shooting in the dark and whenever I needed to learn something I'd google it. I believe it would be more efficient if I had all of the knowledge in my head.

More of a product of where business and society is these days. We're in a time of middle class contraction. Business doesn't want to pay you. They'd rather pay less for someone on a visa. This is causing a devaluation of education in the eyes of our society. I sincerely hope that the consequences can be quelled. There's a lot of consequence to an uneducated society than just people not pursuing degrees. Pure result of greed.

As a CEO I'm sorta guilty of this. In my old business years ago I would outsource the work to India so I can pay a lower wage. And in the recent business I started up I went out of my way to hire normal people off the street as opposed to college graduates since I can pay an average Joe a shyt salary (the economy is fukked up and because are desperate for work....so I'm sorta taking advantage of that. Sue me).

scary sh*t...

Heck, I remember reading about doctors in Greece being unemployed....

If a doctor is unemployed all hope is lost....

I'm starting agree with, @She Agree That I'm Looney

Maybe we should be pushing a TEM(Technology Engineering Medicine) agenda, istead of the typical liberal arts regime

Bad example there as Greece is a bankrupt country: [ame=http://youtu.be/NljVxqRpbw0]Greece riots: Athens burns, police fire tear gas as violence flares up - YouTube[/ame]

Also college degrees don't mean shyt there. If you're a doctor with a degree from an American college then you'll be more sought after.

Work abroad/another state. You would think someone who is about their business wouldnt restrict themselves to one particular region and demographic.

Absolutely. Once I get my degree (actually deciding between MBA or masters in finance) I'm moving to either Brazil, South Africa, or one of them booming Asian countries.

 

[FAH1223]

you need to have work experience, your masters also has to be specialized in something concreter to boot... that's what helps you get a better job and give you an edge in the long term.

getting a mastes just cause isn't going to help you

 

[theflyest]

Name: Sean Padden, 42
Place: Providence, R.I.

I have more education than I know what to do with, and I am one of the long-term unemployed who have given up hopes of finding a job.

After a double major in chemistry and microbiology as an undergrad, I earned a master's degree in molecular biology and gained teaching experience in cellular, micro, molecular and plant biology.

I thought this wide array of experience would at least get me interviews. After hundreds of applications over the past four years, I have had less than five interviews.

My solution has been to try and employ myself. I resorted going back to a high school hobby, as a job.

I'm working on starting a woodworking business that makes canes, using a special kind of diseased wood. Basically, I'm using my chemistry background to create functional pieces of art.

the next walter white right here

 

[JohnnyGold]

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I never heard of that college, and I bet a lot of employers haven't either.


That's the hardest work dude has ever done. I consider him to be lazy honestly. I have done some interviews before. If he told me that, I wouldn't pay attention to anything else he said to me. Not hired.


HR are usually females, and they're usually hot. Dude pick the wrong industry. He's not a hot female. What was he thinking?


She's overeducated in a bunch of bullshyt that nobody cares about. She should have though about that before she spent all that money.


Teaching experience doesn't mean shyt. I'm more impressed with the guys woodworking business honestly.

thank you for taking the time to break down why they were all full of garbage, and sparing me the work.

be wary of advice given on the internet, especially when it can be boiled down to a catchy, one liner. but with that being said:

get a masters because not having one is holding you back from career advancement, not because getting one will let you apply for jobs that would be a financial advancement.

you're looking to hire someone for a high paying job. person walks in for an interview. they have a masters in the field, minimal work experience. right away, that tells you 2 things:

1) they may leave because they don't like the job or they find their "true passion,"

and, in a more abstract sense

2) if they were able to get a masters without working in the field WHILE getting that masters, mommy and daddy MAY have paid for that masters, which means this kid is going to have a terrible work ethic.


that's what you're broadcasting to potential employers.

 

[Suicide King]

I saw that on Yahoo this morning. It was kinda funny how some of the testominals were in total contradiction to some of the others.
But the basic message of degrees not equaling a good career after graduation is one that needs to be shared with people more often.

When the economy was good everyone got by, from the underachiever to the talented. I remember being around lazy students who weren't really ambitious, this economy will eventually weed out...because things were getting really out of hand with people feeling entitled. Now you got Ph.Ds from Harvard who are unemployed. Its not a game.

 

[Serious]

thank you for taking the time to break down why they were all full of garbage, and sparing me the work.

be wary of advice given on the internet, especially when it can be boiled down to a catchy, one liner. but with that being said:

get a masters because not having one is holding you back from career advancement, not because getting one will let you apply for jobs that would be a financial advancement.

you're looking to hire someone for a high paying job. person walks in for an interview. they have a masters in the field, minimal work experience. right away, that tells you 2 things:

1) they may leave because they don't like the job or they find their "true passion,"

and, in a more abstract sense

2) if they were able to get a masters without working in the field WHILE getting that masters, mommy and daddy MAY have paid for that masters, which means this kid is going to have a terrible work ethic.


that's what you're broadcasting to potential employers.

just noticed that site looks like a straight for-profit joint...

These cats are cleaning up off of people ( )
120k worth

Metropolitan College of New York

 

[Robbie3000]

Props. I actually needed to read this. I've been kicking around the idea of going back and getting an MBA "just to have"...

Don't do an MBA unless it's at a top 30-40 school or the school has excellent ROI(look at the job placement statistics).

But if you can get your employer to pay for it

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

I would first, without knowing them, ask if they looked at the future in earnest and two, are they really busting their asses looking for jobs? That shyt is a job in itself. I have an MBA in healthcare management. Why this degree? I looked at the bureau of labor and statistics and how the healthcare industry is one of the few things that are damn near recession proof. I live in the Chicagoland area, I'm always going to at least, have opportunity.

 

[OfTheCross]

Those all sound like personal problems.

People just suffered from bad timing or bad choice in Master's program.

It's tremendously unfortunate. Then again, there are 50 states to choose from. If they were so inclined they could take that leap and create a better situation for themselves