seabreeze80
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They can't live a comfortable life with over 700k of debt. They need to move the fukk of this country and don't look back.
There are loan forgiveness programs
They can't live a comfortable life with over 700k of debt. They need to move the fukk of this country and don't look back.
401k’s are about saving to have enough money that you can survive without the income you’re used to when you’re old. Most people can’t save enough to survive more than a few weeks, so putting money aside in a regular account ain’t realistic. The tax benefits and employer contributions are in place to encourage people to save for retirement. Mentioning the early withdrawal penalties as a negative means you’ve lost sight of a 401k’s purpose.
I just put their student loan amounts in one of those online calculators.
https://studentloanhero.com/calculators/student-loan-payment-calculator/
$4,197
Monthly Payment
$810,867
Total Interest
This means your total repayment
amount would be $1,510,867
Freedom has a price... you can save for retirement without having that tied up for the next 20-30 years. 401k benefits do not outweigh its opportunity cost.
There are loan forgiveness programs
Its an option. She has a degree in English. She can easily become an English teacher for a few years and get that debt cancelled. Her husband can easily get a government job for a few years and do the same.Only for government employees....
Its an option. She has a degree in English. She can easily become an English teacher for a few years and get that debt cancelled. Her husband can easily get a government job for a few years and do the same.
https://studentloanhero.com/featured/the-complete-list-of-student-loan-forgiveness-programs/
It doesn't take 10 years unless you are only making like 1 payment a month. I know people who worked less than 5 years and that debt is cancelled. There are loan assistance programs that will also help you make payments. There are other options as well. It can be done. Just depends on how bad they want it.10 years....and they have to qualify for the program....normally they can't have defaults or deferrals....also the accounts have to be in good standing.....
Another positive for the 401k is tax free growth and deferred taxation. You put in pretax dollars and take out when you're making less money.
I agree that is one benefit, but thats not worth the limit on LIQUIDITY. If you do not also have a taxable account you're missing out.
Let's say you make 100k, normally you'd pay in the 24% federal tax bracket. Once retired you'd pay taxes based on your ssa check, which I can guarantee is lesser than the 24% tax bracket. So if you save up for retirement with after tax money you're already down the 24% you paid in taxes.
I did this last year bro its not taxed as income.
Thats not true. Capital Gains is not taxed this way. If you own a stock or investment greater than 1 year, you do not claim this as income like your normal federal tax bracket. This is why Warren Buffett pays less in taxes than his secretary.
Tax Secrets of the 1% -- The Motley Fool
Mitt Romney's Teachable Moment on Capital Gains
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/taxes/capital-gains-tax-rates/
It's a book called A Simple Path to Wealth that explains it better than I can and it's a good read.
So this money you use to put in your brokerage account that you buy stocks with to get the capital gains, where did it come from? You had to pay income tax on it to put it on the brokerage account. The capital gains is after its invested but you have to pay payroll taxes on it to get the opportunity to invest it. Not so with a 401k.
Warren Buffett paid payroll tax on his money years ago to get where he is today. At the end of the day 401k allows you to avoid paying taxes while you're making the money your investing through tax deferment. No other saving method can say that besides 401k replacements like 403b and TSP.