My girl said she might be pregnant

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What does that matter? When a women forces a man into fatherhood that's a minimum 18 year obligation that she is forcing him into if he doesn't want it.

If he doesn't want a child, it's his responsibility to not impregnate a woman, once he's impregnated a woman, it's up to her what happens next as he no longer has a say.
 

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If he doesn't want a child, it's his responsibility to not impregnate a woman, once he's impregnated a woman, it's up to her what happens next as he no longer has a say.

He wasn't having sex to impregnate her because people frequently have sex without the purpose of procreation. But you knew that. :martin:

So it would only be fair to say in this case a man is obligated to help pay or pay for the abortion if he does not want a child but if the woman refuses to have the abortion then he should have no further obligations concerning her or the child.
 

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He wasn't having sex to impregnate her because people frequently have sex without the purpose of procreation. But you knew that. :martin:

So it would only be fair to say in this case a man is obligated to help pay or pay for the abortion if he does not want a child but if the woman refuses to have the abortion then he should have no further obligations concerning her or the child.

Having sex without the intent to procreate can still result in pregnancy. Sperm doesn't inquire about intent.

If a man doesn't want to be obligated to a child he doesn't want then he has the option to opt out of sex or have a reversible procedure to mitigate the risk of impregnating someone.
 

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Having sex without the intent to procreate can still result in pregnancy. Sperm doesn't inquire about intent.

If a man doesn't want to be obligated to a child he doesn't want then he has the option to opt out of sex or have a reversible procedure to mitigate the risk of impregnating someone.

That's understood sex can lead to pregnancy but we're past that. We're talking about resulting obligations. Why is it acceptable to force a man into an 18 year obligation he does not want?
 

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That's understood sex can lead to pregnancy but we're past that. We're talking about resulting obligations. Why is it acceptable to force a man into an 18 year obligation he does not want?

A man cannot be forced into impregnating a woman, he makes the choice to accept whatever comes with sex when having sex.
 

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A man cannot be forced into impregnating a woman, he makes the choice to accept whatever comes with sex when having sex.

Am I being trolled here I'm trying to have an honest discussion. I'm asking how can you justify that? Accepting "Whatever comes with sex when having sex"
 

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Am I being trolled here I'm trying to have an honest discussion. I'm asking how can you justify that? Accepting "Whatever comes with sex when having sex"

Because I'm an adult, I weight the pros and cons of doing something before I decide to do it.

If you have sex, you're gambling in a baby casino and you'll eventually hit the jackpot
 

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Because I'm an adult, I weight the pros and cons of doing something before I decide to do it.

If you have sex, you're gambling in a baby casino and you'll eventually hit the jackpot

Breh we are past the fact sex can result in a baby, just because a woman becomes pregnant does not mean she absolutely will have a child, abortions exist. I'm talking about obligations in a forced Parenthood.
 

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Breh we are past the fact sex can result in a baby, just because a woman becomes pregnant does not mean she absolutely will have a child, abortions exist. I'm talking about obligations in a forced Parenthood.

There's no such thing as a forced parenthood. You opt in once you decide to have sex.
 
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