Music Industry 101

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Music Industry is a joke.


You sell a million records. Let's say revenue per unit is 10. That's $10 million. Now let's say the COGS was $1 million. Now let's say the artist's cut was $400,000. Want to know how grimey these labels are? :stopitslime: They pay the expenses of the album out of YOUR cut.....not the $9 million surplus.


That's as basic as I can put it without rambling.
 

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Music Industry is a joke.


You sell a million records. Let's say revenue per unit is 10. That's $10 million. Now let's say the COGS was $1 million. Now let's say the artist's cut was $400,000. Want to know how grimey these labels are? :stopitslime: They pay the expenses of the album out of YOUR cut.....not the $9 million surplus.


That's as basic as I can put it without rambling.

That's the shyt that kills it, what brought it home for me is when I found out that just about every little expense is taken into account, from that drink the A&R got you to the ice in it.

It would make me laugh if the game wasn't so insidious, label execs = con men of the highest caliber.
 

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can someone possibly update this thread on how radio spins works...there's a big misconception on here that certain artists are getting major spins based off the demand from fans for their music which is absolutely not the case :beli:
 

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can someone possibly update this thread on how radio spins works...there's a big misconception on here that certain artists are getting major spins based off the demand from fans for their music which is absolutely not the case :beli:

Most radio stations are only allowed to play around 20-30 songs... & thinking people calling in requesting a song means anything is retarded. Stations play whatever happens to be buzzing at the time. Basically look at the top 100 songs on iTunes & pick the 30 you think will get big. Also, because stations can only play X number of songs labels hardly ever release Singles (unless their big artists) in November & December cuz stations have to sacrifice 4-5 songs on their channel to make room for Christmas songs...
 

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Anybody trying to get into the music business, after watching this, I bet toss that dream in the bushes:birdman:
 

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Could someone shed some light for me?
If an upcoming artist has their youtube/twitter/instagram following with substantial views 1mil+, what is stopping them from approaching ITunes independently and going all digital sales?

I believe Biebs has a following before being signed...right?

Props!
 

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can someone possibly update this thread on how radio spins works...there's a big misconception on here that certain artists are getting major spins based off the demand from fans for their music which is absolutely not the case :beli:

This is a long article to continue reading go here:

Radio Spins
Posted on March 3, 2013

By, Wendy Day from Rap Coalition (www.WendyDay.com)

I have been consulting independent urban record labels and artists for many years now, and the most misunderstood aspect of this industry is radio. So few understand how radio really works, and an even smaller amount of indie labels and artists understand how to get their records played at radio. Because of the lack of information and knowledge, radio promotion remains an area where one can lose a large amount of money very quickly. And most do.

I have a friend who paid $25,000 to a radio promoter on the recommendation of a popular radio host at a local station in Detroit. My friend did not receive one spin anywhere in the country. He was eventually told the single did not research well and that it was not a radio single. It was too late in the life of the single to hire anyone else. Could he have been told that prior to spending the $25,000? Provided it was true, yes. My guess is that he was taken for a ride and that the radio promoter (whose name I never even heard before), and the guy who had referred the scam “promoter,” made a quick come up on $25,000 for no work. There are two other folks I know who hired a radio promoter in Atlanta who is known for jerking people, and one lost $25,000 and the other lost $15,000. That promoter now works for a major label, so he’s fine financially, but these two labels are out a large portion of their budget for no spins whatsoever. Now they are looking to break bones.

Just last month, I got a call from a guy in the South who has invested in a project, but is totally clueless about the music industry. He name dropped some people in the industry who are excellent at what they do at radio, but not for people like him. When I tried to explain how it all worked, my answer did not fit his vision of how he wanted it to work and he disappeared quickly off the phone. I imagine he will soon be parted from even more of his money by folks who pick up on what he wants to hear, and tell it to him. What is it about this industry that makes folks act like idiots? As I pull up the BDS to see what spins his artist is getting, I see he still hasn’t figured it out. Sadly, the artist has placed his career in this guy’s hands. Who really loses? The artist.

There are quite a few legitimate radio promotion people and companies out there in urban music. I do not understand how the other bullshyt names keep coming up over and over again, attached to horrific stories of fools and their money soon parted. Don’t people check references? Are they so new to the industry that they lack any resources to call and ask for opinions? Perhaps there are just that many con-artists out there to make a quick buck, I don’t know.
 

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can somebody tell me how do videos get taken.down off youtube. this is my 3rd video getting taken down. are youtube taking them.down or is someone reporting flagging my videos shyt is getting very annoying
 

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can somebody tell me how do videos get taken.down off youtube. this is my 3rd video getting taken down. are youtube taking them.down or is someone reporting flagging my videos shyt is getting very annoying
YouTube has a tracking system that fingerprints any copyrighted material and if its in the video they take it down.

I'm actually going to school for Music Business & my teacher has roughly 40 years of music industry experience & has a grammy award + 30+ grammy nominations from artists on his indie record label back in the day before he sold it.

he is literally a walking saint of knowledge. I'll do my best to answer any questions you guys got if i got the answers for you. we just getting through copyright & licenses & sample clearances now. shyt is CRAZY.
 

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:pacspit: @ def jam for not lookingout for warren g, he saved that damn label.
 
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