murder in the bible - all the :snoop: passages

[SwagKingKong]

Breh you don't even understand the tenents of your own religion. Anyone with a basic understanding of the Christian faith knows Jesus who is God existed since the begining.

According to John,
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

The Word = Jesus = God. So any laws created by the Father were equally created by Jesus and the Holy Spirit. So Jesus was in essence shytting on his own laws. Laws that once called for capital punishment if broken.

Do you understand how large a shift this has to be? From Murder for a crime to Jesus committing that same Crime? And this whole business about Jews is just wrong on so many levels B.

My own religion? When did I say this? I never claimed it was my religion.

And no, it's not as clear as you make it be and many different branches feels different about this. In fact churches have yet to clear up the holy trinity to the mass and different teachings can be found everywhere. If we assume the word etc. is Jesus, then yes he exists from the beginning. I know that the spirit of God is mentioned in the genesis, and we interpret this as talking about the holy spirit, one of Gods nature although it doesn't have to be this way. You have to critically look at these texts, there's nothing clear about the holy trinity. Everything is deciphered throught he history of christianity during different ecumenical councils and the holy trinity was decided during the first council of Nicaea. It's foolish to believe that everyone agreed on every point, IIRC there was a big argument as to the holy trinity discussion during the council of Nicaea in which some people basically didn't agree that Jesus was God.

But sure, if you see it as Jesus shytting on the laws he created, then so be it. It's not how I interpret those texts atleast.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

My own religion? When did I say this? I never claimed it was my religion.

And no, it's not as clear as you make it be and many different branches feels different about this. In fact churches have yet to clear up the holy trinity to the mass and different teachings can be found everywhere. If we assume the word etc. is Jesus, then yes he exists from the beginning. I know that the spirit of God is mentioned in the genesis, and we interpret this as talking about the holy spirit, one of Gods nature although it doesn't have to be this way. You have to critically look at these texts, there's nothing clear about the holy trinity. Everything is deciphered throught he history of christianity during different ecumenical councils and the holy trinity was decided during the first council of Nicaea. It's foolish to believe that everyone agreed on every point, IIRC there was a big argument as to the holy trinity discussion during the council of Nicaea in which some people basically didn't agree that Jesus was God.

But sure, if you see it as Jesus shytting on the laws he created, then so be it. It's not how I interpret those texts atleast.

but thats essentially his point, because religion as it is now, its its public form is "everyone agreeing on every point."

Its not sold as this complicated mesh of philosophies. In fact religion, isn't even thought of as philosophy to the masses.

Because what becomes of a religion thats full of discrepancies......

 

[SwagKingKong]

but thats essentially his point, because religion as it is now, its its public form is "everyone agreeing on every point."

Its not sold as this complicated mesh of philosophies. In fact religion, isn't even thought of as philosophy to the masses.

Because what becomes of a religion thats full of discrepancies......

No, it's not. I know people who are active in churches and have a completely different faith than some of the other people working in that church.

Most churches from my experience have a few viewpoints in which they agree with (pretty basic stuff as the holy trinity, Jesus is Gods son etc) and then their faith differs alot from eachothers.

That's why many churches have trouble handling this whole gay marriage thing. No theological backing, yet some people, even some who are very high up on the church ladder is for it..

 

[blackzeus]

A LOT OF OLD TESTAMENT LAWS WERE ABOLISHED WHEN JESUS CAME ALONG.

BACK THEN GOD WASN'T FOR PLAY WHEN IT CAME TO HIS LAWS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORLD TODAY YOU CAN SEE WHY HE OPERATED THE WAY HE DID. YOU HAVE TO KILL A WEED BY REMOVING THE WHOLE THING. LEAVE A PIECE AND IT WILL COME BACK IN TIME.

Old Testament Judaism was just as bad as Islam

 

[Scotch Hall]

my parakeet watching pbs,singing-along just relaxing like

 

[the cac mamba]

No, it's not. I know people who are active in churches and have a completely different faith than some of the other people working in that church.

Most churches from my experience have a few viewpoints in which they agree with (pretty basic stuff as the holy trinity, Jesus is Gods son etc) and then their faith differs alot from eachothers.

That's why many churches have trouble handling this whole gay marriage thing. No theological backing, yet some people, even some who are very high up on the church ladder is for it..

do you believe that god/jesus/the holy ghost murdered every firstborn child in egypt?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

No, it's not. I know people who are active in churches and have a completely different faith than some of the other people working in that church.

but of course

Most churches from my experience have a few viewpoints in which they agree with (pretty basic stuff as the holy trinity, Jesus is Gods son etc) and then their faith differs alot from eachothers.

but only academics know this

aside from jehovahs witness and adventist, whens the last time you heard a protestant go "well our faith differs because....."

That's why many churches have trouble handling this whole gay marriage thing. No theological backing, yet some people, even some who are very high up on the church ladder is for it..

you think the trouble handling gay marriage has to do with no scripture backing it up???

Breh the catholic church just came out and said birth control was against their religious faith, don't remember seeing any headlines about the use of birth control declining....

We don't even need to get into abortions

Or pregnancy out of wedlock

or divorce

The lack of scripture has like 15% to do with it. Cognitive dissonance is STRONG breh. Don't overlook that. The greatest moral hazard in history is the belief in the forgiveness of sins.

 

[superunknown23]

Virgin births, talking snakes, walking on water, resurrections, etc
People believe the craziest things

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

 

[SwagKingKong]

but of course



but only academics know this

aside from jehovahs witness and adventist, whens the last time you heard a protestant go "well our faith differs because....."



you think the trouble handling gay marriage has to do with no scripture backing it up???

Breh the catholic church just came out and said birth control was against their religious faith, don't remember seeing any headlines about the use of birth control declining....

We don't even need to get into abortions

Or pregnancy out of wedlock

or divorce

The lack of scripture has like 15% to do with it. Cognitive dissonance is STRONG breh. Don't overlook that. The greatest moral hazard in history is the belief in the forgiveness of sins.

It might be true that only academics know this but does this somehow disprove it? Lol, that's why we study these things academically.

What breh, of course one of the biggest problems with gay marriage being OK in churches is that it doesn't have any theological background. It's very tough for churches to make decisions that are not theologically backed because they don't want to ruin their credibility but at the same time churches doesn't want become an enemy to the rest of the society.

 

[Bboystyle]

that was a good explanation

i guess i dont get why jesus would be abolishing laws that god (i mean jesus) was responsible for?

and you claim to have read all of the books. they cant coexist can they?

God and Jesus are not the same person no matter what delusional "christian" says

 

[Crakface]

Whats wrong with God killing people? It never said hes not a G.

 

[NoMayo15]

My question is whether or not people think that there are objective morals, and the Bible is an accurate representation of what God thinks is moral, then why are there separate morals for one group of people compared to another? If an act is moral for one group to commit, why wouldn't it be moral for anyone to commit?