murder in the bible - all the :snoop: passages

[the cac mamba]

Murder in the Bible

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)




im not gonna sit here and hate but do any of you god fearing christians wanna justify this? anyone wana justify killing an entire town if one person believes in a foreign god? the obviousness of the human agenda behind this farce of a belief system is staggering

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

I COULD TRY BUT YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND.

 

[the cac mamba]

I COULD TRY BUT YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND.

try me

explain why you dont follow the bible like god tells you to

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

try me

explain why you dont follow the bible like god tells you to

A LOT OF OLD TESTAMENT LAWS WERE ABOLISHED WHEN JESUS CAME ALONG.

BACK THEN GOD WASN'T FOR PLAY WHEN IT CAME TO HIS LAWS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORLD TODAY YOU CAN SEE WHY HE OPERATED THE WAY HE DID. YOU HAVE TO KILL A WEED BY REMOVING THE WHOLE THING. LEAVE A PIECE AND IT WILL COME BACK IN TIME.

 

[the cac mamba]

A LOT OF OLD TESTAMENT LAWS WERE ABOLISHED WHEN JESUS CAME ALONG.

BACK THEN GOD WASN'T FOR PLAY WHEN IT CAME TO HIS LAWS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORLD TODAY YOU CAN SEE WHY HE OPERATED THE WAY HE DID. YOU HAVE TO KILL A WEED BY REMOVING THE WHOLE THING. LEAVE A PIECE AND IT WILL COME BACK IN TIME.

so why is he for play now? my theory is that we know better than to believe in this bullshyt, and it never happened in the first place.

 

[Pool_Shark]

so why is he for play now? my theory is that we know better than to believe in this bullshyt, and it never happened in the first place.

Thats why Jesus came to start a new thing. He was the ultimate sacrifice. So we wouldn't have to keep sacrificing animals and shyt.

 

[SwagKingKong]

If you want someone, as myself, who has studied religious books suchas the bible, quran, bhagavadgita etc. to take you seriously you need to come at this topic at a different angle. It's competely pointless to grab a piece of the book, take it out of it's context without understanding when, where and why it was written and critize Christians or any other religious groups for it.

Also, I don't know why you would give examples from the old testament and ask Christians to justify it when Christians follow the new testament and to be honest, from what I've learned most Christians feels that the old testament is an important historical book and does not base their faith on that book.

Edit: Also, to understand Christians view on the old testament you'd also have to factor in Jesus and how he changed everything with his arrival to the world. He was a rebel who challanged the norm of the society and abolished many of the laws that were set in the old testament. Ponder this, Jesus, Gods son, was doing work on the sabbath and was friends with hookers and treated them with respect. Do you understand what kind of change he stands for? This is stuff you would get punished for in the old testament, and in the new testament you have Gods son doing all of this.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

so why is he for play now? my theory is that we know better than to believe in this bullshyt, and it never happened in the first place.

dont assume it ever changed to be for play just know all the choices you make do come back around for better or worse

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

If you want someone, as myself, who has studied religious books suchas the bible, quran, bhagavadgita etc. to take you seriously you need to come at this topic at a different angle. It's competely pointless to grab a piece of the book, take it out of it's context without understanding when, where and why it was written and critize Christians or any other religious groups for it.

Also, I don't know why you would give examples from the old testament and ask Christians to justify it when Christians follow the new testament and to be honest, from what I've learned most Christians feels that the old testament is an important historical book and does not base their faith on that book.

Edit: Also, to understand Christians view on the old testament you'd also have to factor in Jesus and how he changed everything with his arrival to the world. He was a rebel who challanged the norm of the society and abolished many of the laws that were set in the old testament. Ponder this, Jesus, Gods son, was doing work on the sabbath and was friends with hookers and treated them with respect. Do you understand what kind of change he stands for? This is stuff you would get punished for in the old testament, and in the new testament you have Gods son doing all of this.

I KINDA WISH I COULD HAVE EXPLAINED IT BETTER. GOOD JOB. MAN I'M TERRIBLE WITH EXPLAINING STUFF.

 

[the cac mamba]

If you want someone, as myself, who has studied religious books suchas the bible, quran, bhagavadgita etc. to take you seriously you need to come at this topic at a different angle. It's competely pointless to grab a piece of the book, take it out of it's context without understanding when, where and why it was written and critize Christians or any other religious groups for it.

Also, I don't know why you would give examples from the old testament and ask Christians to justify it when Christians follow the new testament and to be honest, from what I've learned most Christians feels that the old testament is an important historical book and does not base their faith on that book.

Edit: Also, to understand Christians view on the old testament you'd also have to factor in Jesus and how he changed everything with his arrival to the world. He was a rebel who challanged the norm of the society and abolished many of the laws that were set in the old testament. Ponder this, Jesus, Gods son, was doing work on the sabbath and was friends with hookers and treated them with respect. Do you understand what kind of change he stands for? This is stuff you would get punished for in the old testament, and in the new testament you have Gods son doing all of this.

that was a good explanation

i guess i dont get why jesus would be abolishing laws that god (i mean jesus) was responsible for?

and you claim to have read all of the books. they cant coexist can they?

 

[Brown_Pride]

well he didn't abolish laws per say, he actually fulfill the law.
(Matt. 5:17), "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill."

The key her is fulfill,
In what way did Jesus fulfill the law? by Peter Ditzel
this is a decent article on what that means and why things "changed" after JC.

Why is an atheist so worried about what God does/did and on what ground are you standing saying it is "right" or wrong?

Oh and your "kill the two for one person sins" is a bit misleading. IF you read the "example" given the ENTIRE town must be led astray, not just one person.

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)"

 

[SwagKingKong]

that was a good explanation

i guess i dont get why jesus would be abolishing laws that god (i mean jesus) was responsible for?

and you claim to have read all of the books. they cant coexist can they?

Well, I should've been clearer. He didn't abolish the laws per say, he abolished them for none jewish people. I don't remember where in the new testament this is from, my guess would be Peter, anyhow it states that Jesus simply meant that the laws where made for jewish people and that there was no reason for none jewish people to follow them. That's why you find his apostles breaking these laws (i.e having dinner with other none jewish people which wasn't allowed etc). Jesus pretty much annulled these laws because they weren't necessary, since he, himself was going to be sacrificed for everybody on this earth.

Christians view it as it's a new world with Jesus, new laws etc. He is the beginning and then view what happened before more like the history of the people etc. What's said in the old testament is still important, but Jesus is God to Christians. Whatever happened before Christ isn't really relevant since he came and basically said forget about the past, forget about how you've been living this is how it is from now on. Jesus himself states that he is sent to finish Gods work..

A basic example of Jesus "abolishing laws" is when he talks about turning the other cheek;

38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

He pretty much says the laws from the old testament says eye for an eye but he comes with a different message now.

And no, I haven't read all the books. Well, some of them but not all. But I've read a lot from them and studied them (I study religion in college). As to your question, I'm not sure if they can co-exist. It pretty much depends on how you read and interpret them. For example, I was blown away by how much the bible and the Quran are alike. Many of the stories can be found in both, for example Jesus exists and is born to a virgin in the Quran too and he's a prophet there.

I don't want to get into other religious books such as the bhagavad gita or the story about SIddharta etc. that's a whole different animal breh
those books leaves my confused to this day lol

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

Well, I should've been clearer. He didn't abolish the laws per say, he abolished them for none jewish people. I don't remember where in the new testament this is from, my guess would be Peter, anyhow it states that Jesus simply meant that the laws where made for jewish people and that there was no reason for none jewish people to follow them. That's why you find his apostles breaking these laws (i.e having dinner with other none jewish people which wasn't allowed etc). Jesus pretty much annulled these laws because they weren't necessary, since he, himself was going to be sacrificed for everybody on this earth.

Christians view it as it's a new world with Jesus, new laws etc. He is the beginning and then view what happened before more like the history of the people etc. What's said in the old testament is still important, but Jesus is God to Christians. Whatever happened before Christ isn't really relevant since he came and basically said forget about the past, forget about how you've been living this is how it is from now on. Jesus himself states that he is sent to finish Gods work..

A basic example of Jesus "abolishing laws" is when he talks about turning the other cheek;

38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

He pretty much says the laws from the old testament says eye for an eye but he comes with a different message now.

And no, I haven't read all the books. Well, some of them but not all. But I've read a lot from them and studied them (I study religion in college). As to your question, I'm not sure if they can co-exist. It pretty much depends on how you read and interpret them. For example, I was blown away by how much the bible and the Quran are alike. Many of the stories can be found in both, for example Jesus exists and is born to a virgin in the Quran too and he's a prophet there.

I don't want to get into other religious books such as the bhagavad gita or the story about SIddharta etc. that's a whole different animal breh
those books leaves my confused to this day lol

WHAT CLASSES DID YOU TAKE FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF. I WOULDN'T MIND A CLASS OR TWO IN MY FREE TIME.

 

[SwagKingKong]

WHAT CLASSES DID YOU TAKE FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF. I WOULDN'T MIND A CLASS OR TWO IN MY FREE TIME.

Well, I ain't from the US, I'm in Sweden so I have no idea what the classes are called over there. But you should look into it, if the courses are anything like here it's great stuff.

What I've studied is the history of religion, and the psychology and sociology of religion for about 2 years now. The professors are really knowledgeable and know almost everything about these texts and the context it was written in so it's very interersting to discuss them together.

 

[Mowgli]

How come Christians get attacked but you never challenge jewish people. The Talud is their bread and butter.


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