Multiple suicide bombings reported at Kabul Airport. Americans among killed.

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US troops were still being killed in 2019 by the Taliban.

What I'm saying is, yes all those things you said are true, but the fact the Doha talks ended up with an agreement by the US and Taliban with regional powers witnessing had the Taliban basically not target and kill US personnel over the last year and a half. Their objective is the Americans gotta leave. We have the mechanism for them to leave.

ISIS-K clearly doesn't care and wants to make the Taliban look weak and bog down the US again.
all im saying is, if you're leaving (and again we should) - you can ensure a better process for that by maintaining the same secure presence that provided such appreciated safety against all those threats. uprooting that security before a complete last call and evac is done? its plainly shyt. especially when you've got all the resources in the world to guarantee the best planning possible.

so could this have been done better.... yes. its horrid planning and now we got dead marines on TV again. it fukking sucks to see and the simple truth of the matter is that a genuine giveafukk in any one of a number of meetings could've prevented it.

"no one died for x amount of time, things were going great" is a bad, wildly oversimplified take
 

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biden did fukk up. people gotta accept an L and learn how to hold it because this kinda spin is not gonna work

you want out of afghanistan? great. you should maybe give the full last call evac order and deadline BEFORE pulling out the all the soldiers and leaving the bases to get looted :mjlol: how the hell you the president of the united states saying you gotta follow the taliban's schedule on protecting your own citizens as well as those of our allies :dahell:

i hope someone develops some better talking points by december because as is this looks goofy as hell

Thank you breh. These nikkas crazy :gucci: Even military members were like wtf would you give up the air base when you still needed to evacuate but of course everyone said they were Republican/war hawks/pro-defense contractors. Politics has become so tribal and partisan that we can’t even agree on common sense stuff without people questioning your motives.
 

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all im saying is, if you're leaving (and again we should) - you can ensure a better process for that by maintaining the same secure presence that provided such appreciated safety against all those threats. uprooting that security before a complete last call and evac is done? its plainly shyt. especially when you've got all the resources in the world to guarantee the best planning possible.

so could this have been done better.... yes. its horrid planning and now we got dead marines on TV again. it fukking sucks to see and the simple truth of the matter is that a genuine giveafukk in any one of a number of meetings could've prevented it.

"no one died for x amount of time, things were going great" is a bad, wildly oversimplified take


Why didn't the people leave when they were told to leave? They knew when last call was. The deadline even got extended. Am I missing something here?
 

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shyt is real ugly and Biden could've handled this better, but the media is working overtime to support the war in Afghanistan.

Same muthafukkas reporting all this shyt that's been going down were quiet when weddings were getting bombed, villages getting massacred, the corrupt Afghan government were selling off kids to paedo warlords and all sorts of other war crimes shyt.

Only question is what is the next war these demons are gonna try and sell the public on? :jbhmm:
 

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all im saying is, if you're leaving (and again we should) - you can ensure a better process for that by maintaining the same secure presence that provided such appreciated safety against all those threats. uprooting that security before a complete last call and evac is done? its plainly shyt. especially when you've got all the resources in the world to guarantee the best planning possible.

so could this have been done better.... yes. its horrid planning and now we got dead marines on TV again. it fukking sucks to see and the simple truth of the matter is that a genuine giveafukk in any one of a number of meetings could've prevented it.

"no one died for x amount of time, things were going great" is a bad, wildly oversimplified take


Bro go and put in the ground work
 
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