Muhammad: The White Prophet with Black Slaves

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

This video is akin to Trump telling Blacks to vote for him because "what do you have to lose."

This cracka f-gg-t doesn't even realize that he's basically admitting that whatever institution or ideology crackas get involved in, they'll use it to oppress the darker people of the planet.

First off, this devil didn't go to the Holy Qur'an once in these 10 minutes. The best adjective used to describe any hadith is "reliable," not Holy. Most anti-Islam people use hadith because their point can't be made using Qur'an.

To Muslims, the Qur'an is Holy. To Muslims, the pilgrimage to Mecca is Holy.

The Holy Qur'an says that the first man Allah created was Black.

During one's pilgrimage, the Black stone represents that which is Holy and righteous, the white stone represents satan.

During one's pilgrimage, a Black African woman is revered and celebrated in ritual.

Arabs, even the modern day ones, will readily say that they are an Ishmaelite people. So they are admitting that, or at the least believe that, they come from a Black man, Abraham, from Mesopotamia, and a Black woman, Hagar, from Egypt.

The Kaaba, the Holy edifice of Islam, predates Muhammad ibn Abdullah by thousands of years. So when this cracka, and people like him, try to claim Muhammad is the founder of Islam, they are either being knowingly deceitful, or they are just plain ignorant to Islam.

His YouTube channel is named Acts17Apologetics, appropriately the first book after the "gospels." I liken the "gospels ACCORDING to" Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John, and the entire New Testament for that matter, to the hadith. Ultimately, its someone else's, not God's chosen messenger's, account or perception of the man seen as Holy within the religion.

The only part of your New Testament that can even possibly be considered Holy or divine revelation, is the parts written in red, the actual words of Jesus. Anything else is just 1 of those 4 men's perception or their pesonal account of Jesus and his actions.

So if this cracka is as sharp as he presents himself to be, he knows that Jesus greeted his disciples, it's written in red, by saying, "Peace be unto you," or "Peace be with you." Which means that in the language that Jesus actually spoke, he's saying, "As Salaamu Alaikum," how Muslims greet one another.

The language(s) Jesus spoke, according to the introduction or preface of any Bible worth a damn, were Semitic; Arabic Aramaic and Hebrew. Semitic meaning Afro-Asiatic in origin. So the original people of Arabia, the people that pre-date Muhammad, like the Kaaba, in to antiquity, were not pale and near white; like the modern day ones, and the ones he's claimimg were there 1400 years ago.

The biggest deception by omission of this video is that the whiteman, through his religion of Christianity, has been at war with Islam for centuries. Just like the "war on drugs" is actually a thinly veiled war on Black and Brown people, the "war on terror" is a thinly veiled war on Islam. Its in this crackas nature to hate Muslims.

N-ggas in this thread are eating this b-llsh-t video up, and co-signing this cracka and his garbage because at the heart of things, you're n-ggas, slaves, and despite your Pro-Black anti-religion rhetoric, you're Christians. You take the whiteman's words for gospel, (pun intended) and you're anti-Islam because some cracka from college or university told you be.

So, just because you don't utilize the hadith then that means millions of Muslims don't? I fail to see your point here. You are mentioning Christians, Jesus, the bible and Christianity alot. Even if all of what you say is true that still doesn't disprove anything mentioned in the video. It's your same Trump analogy right back at you. Fact of the matter is that he showed from a book that Muslims use worldwide that Muhammad was white and owned black slaves. Attacking him, his youtube channel, his religion, the color of his eyes or his race won't alter the writings of the hadith. So, unless i'm missing something here, the points he made are still valid.

 

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Farrakhan vs Malcolm X.. Who's the Judas?


If you feel the content of the video, "Muhammad: The White Prophet with Black Slaves," is valid and or true, describe El Hajj Malik El Shabazz as a fool, or a c00n, confused, or something along those lines, for accepting Sunni Islam for himself, and promoting it for Black people in America. Then I'll respond to your post below.
Other than that, I know you either lack critical thinking skills, have cognitive dissonance, are a hypocrite, or any combination of the 3.

So, just because you don't utilize the hadith then that means millions of Muslims don't? I fail to see your point here. You are mentioning Christians, Jesus, the bible and Christianity alot. Even if all of what you say is true that still doesn't disprove anything mentioned in the video. It's your same Trump analogy right back at you. Fact of the matter is that he showed from a book that Muslims use worldwide that Muhammad was white and owned black slaves. Attacking him, his youtube channel, his religion, the color of his eyes or his race won't alter the writings of the hadith. So, unless i'm missing something here, the points he made are still valid.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Farrakhan vs Malcolm X.. Who's the Judas?


If you feel the content of the video, "Muhammad: The White Prophet with Black Slaves," is valid and or true, describe El Hajj Malik El Shabazz as a fool, or a c00n, confused, or something along those lines, for accepting Sunni Islam for himself, and promoting it for Black people in America. Then I'll respond to your post below.
Other than that, I know you either lack critical thinking skills, have cognitive dissonance, are a hypocrite, or any combination of the 3.

The other thread I posted has nothing to do with this discussion either.
The fact of the matter is that from the hadith this man has shown exactly what the title states.
Unless you can show that it doesn't or that millions of muslims worldwide don't except it as truth, then there is really nothing left to discuss.

 

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...the hadith... he showed from a book that Muslims use worldwide... the hadith...

...the hadith...millions of muslims worldwide

I just realized that you really don't know anything about Islam.

There is no such thing as "the hadith" (definite article)
You should be saying "a hadith" (indefinite article)

You referred to it as "a book," when even in the video you posted, he used different books, different hadiths.

I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt because you don't even know different Muslims use different hadiths for different reasons. You think there is some "worldwide" hadith. LMMFAO

Which just furthers my point that hadith does not hold the weight of the Holy Qur'an.

There are many different hadith
Some are considered more reliable than others
Some are adhered to more than others
Some flat out contradict one another
Some contradict the Holy Qur'an
You think it's one set of writing
Excuse yourself from this discussion



P.S.
I made the distinction in my 3rd paragraph, "any hadith"
Don't try it.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

I just realized that you really don't know anything about Islam.

There is no such thing as "the hadith" (definite article)
You should be saying "a hadith" (indefinite article)

You referred to it as "a book," when even in the video you posted, he used different books, different hadiths.

I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt because you don't even know different Muslims use different hadiths for different reasons. You think there is some "worldwide" hadith. LMMFAO

Which just furthers my point that hadith does not hold the weight of the Holy Qur'an.

There are many different hadith
Some are considered more reliable than others
Some are adhered to more than others
Some flat out contradict one another
Some contradict the Holy Qur'an
You think it's one set of writing
Excuse yourself from this discussion



P.S.
I made the distinction in my 3rd paragraph, "any hadith"
Don't try it.

I stand corrected of it being one book.

It took time to eliminate the use of alcohol among Muslims. The Prophet Muxamed also said that if there is no slavery in the state then the state is not allowed to establish slavery. It is outlawed.

"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
- surah 9:5

One thing about Muslims is they turn into pathological liars when it comes to the defense of their diabolical religion.

Matter of fact the O.G himself Mohammed allowed deception in certain circumstances, such as safeguarding the religion, meaning you can lie to non Muslims to give a false image of Islam to make it look good. Never trust a Muslim, brehs.

It's called taqiyya.

 

[SupremexKing]

So, just because you don't utilize the hadith then that means millions of Muslims don't? I fail to see your point here. You are mentioning Christians, Jesus, the bible and Christianity alot. Even if all of what you say is true that still doesn't disprove anything mentioned in the video. It's your same Trump analogy right back at you. Fact of the matter is that he showed from a book that Muslims use worldwide that Muhammad was white and owned black slaves. Attacking him, his youtube channel, his religion, the color of his eyes or his race won't alter the writings of the hadith. So, unless i'm missing something here, the points he made are still valid.

we should take everything whites say with a major heaping grain of salt.

there's clearly an agenda here, regardless of the flaws of islam.

 

[QuintessentialMan]

Yes. I'm an actual Muslim who's studied this.

And the Prophet came into a world where slavery was normal. He and the Quran mention the virtues and rewards of freeing slaves. And by treating them he said that slaves are not beneath any one and are your brothers. Look up the Hadith, read the scholars who devoted their lives to this.

The Meccabs in the times of jaahilya did a lot of horrible things. The Prophet was a reformer.

And he was of fair skinned that doesn't mean WHITE. He was not from the caucuses or Europe. Arabs come in many shades.

Look up actual Muslim sources on this issue to get the other side. I've posted numerous times on this issue and others on Islam. If you really want to know more, I can point you in the right direction.

If not, carry on with the classical orientalist views that demonized Islam and make the Prophet out to be the most horrible human on earth and Muslims as sub human


I leave you with this

teachings from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke,he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) - (another narrator) Dawud said:" i. e. a morsel or two". 4097. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)"

Narrated Al-Ma'rur: "At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"

Prophet Muhammad also urged wealthy Muslims to buy slaves from the Pagan Arabs and to let them free after that. One of Prophet Muhammad's best friends was a slave from Africa called Bilal Al-Habashi. Bilal was bought from his Pagan master by Abu Baker Al-Siddeek, one of Muhammad's best friends. After Abu Baker bought Bilal, he set him free.
Islam as I mentioned in the introduction came to fight slavery. Allah Almighty ordered the Muslims to gradually liberate slaves and to give them their freedom in many cases.
Let us look at Noble Verse 4:92 "Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to God: for God hath all knowledge and all wisdom." In this Noble Verse, we see that Allah Almighty ordered to free a believing slave if a Muslim accidentally kills another Muslim. This Noble Verse came to encourage Muslims to liberate slaves.
Let us look at Noble Verse 5:89 "God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth God make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." This Noble Verse is also another proof that Allah Almighty did encourage Muslims to liberate slaves.
Let us look at Noble Verse 58:3 "But those who divorce their wives by Zihar, then wish to go back on the words they uttered, (It is ordained that such a one) should free a slave before they touch each other: Thus are ye admonished to perform: and God is well-acquainted with (all) that ye do." This Noble Verse is another proof that Allah Almighty did encourage Muslims to liberate slaves.
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"
Narrated Asma: "No doubt the Prophet ordered people to manumit slaves during the solar eclipse. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 163)"
"'Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that 'Umar b. Khattab asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as he was at ji'rana (a town near Mecca) on his way back from Ta'if: Messenger of Allah, I had taken a vow during the days of Ignorance that I would observe I'tikaf for one day in the Sacred Mosque. So what is your opinion? He said: Go and observe I'tikaf for a day. And Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) gave him a slave girl out of the one-fifth (of the spoils of war meant for the Holy Prophet). And when Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) set the war prisoners free.'Umar b. Khattab heard their voice as they were saying: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set us free. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: What is this? They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has set free the prisoners of war (which had fallen to the lot of people). Thereupon he (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Abdullah, go to that slave-girl and set her free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4074)"

If a Muslim beats his slave or slaps him on the face, then he must set him free:
"Zadhan reported that Ibn Umar called his slave and he found the marks (of beating) upon his back. He said to him: I have caused you pain. He said: No. But he (Ibn Umar) said: You are free. He then took hold of something from the earth and said: There is no reward for me even to the weight equal to it. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him, then expiation for it is that he should set him free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4079)"
"Abu Mas'ud reported that he had been beating his slave and he had been saying: "I seek refuge with Allah, but he continued beating him, whereupon he said: I seek refuge with Allah's Messenger, and he spared him. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: By Allah, God has more dominance over you than you have over him (the slave). He said that he set him free. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Shu'ba with the same chain of transmitters, but made no mention of (these words) of his: I seek refuge with Allah, I seek refuge with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4089)"

More on freeing slaves:
Narrated Salamah ibn Sakhr al-Bayadi: "I was a man who was more given than others to ***ual intercourse with women. When the month of Ramadan came, I feared lest I should have intercourse with my wife, and this evil should remain with me till the morning. So I made my wife like my mother's back to me till the end of Ramadan. But one night when she was waiting upon me, something of her was revealed. Suddenly I jumped upon her. When the morning came I went to my people and informed them about this matter. I said: Go along with me to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him). They said: No, by Allah. So I went to the Prophet (peace be upon him and informed him of the matter. He said: Have you really committed it, Salamah? I said: I committed it twice, Apostle of Allah. I am content with the Commandment of Allah, the Exalted; so take a decision about me according to what Allah has shown you. He said: Free a slave. I said: By Him Who sent you with truth, I do not possess a neck other than this: and I struck the surface of my neck. He said: Then fast two consecutive months. I said: Whatever I suffered is due to fasting. He said: Feed sixty poor people with a wasq of dates. I said: By Him Who sent you with truth, we passed the night hungry; there was no food in our house. He said: Then go to the collector of sadaqah of Banu Zurayq; he must give it to you. Then feed sixty poor people with a wasq of dates; and you and your family eat the remaining dates. Then I came back to my people, and said (to them): I found with you poverty and bad opinion; and I found with the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) prosperity and good opinion. He has commanded me to give alms to you. Ibn al-Ala' added: Ibn Idris said: Bayadah is a sub-clan of Banu Zurayq. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq), Book 12, Number 2207)"
Narrated Khuwaylah, daughter of Malik ibn Tha'labah: "My husband, Aws ibn as-Samit, pronounced the words: You are like my mother. So I came to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), complaining to him about my husband. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) disputed with me and said: Remain dutiful to Allah; he is your cousin. I continued (complaining) until the Qur'anic verse came down: "Allah hath heard the words of her who disputeth with thee concerning her husband...." till the prescription of expiation. He then said: He should set free a slave. She said: He cannot afford it. He said: He should fast for two consecutive months. She said: Apostle of Allah, he is an old man; he cannot keep fasts. He said: He should feed sixty poor people. She said: He has nothing which he may give in alms. At that moment an araq (i.e. date-basket holding fifteen or sixteen sa's) was brought to him. I said: I shall help him with another date-basked ('araq). He said: You have done well. Go and feed sixty poor people on his behalf, and return to your cousin. The narrator said: An araq holds sixty sa's of dates. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq), Book 12, Number 2208)"
There are a lot more Noble Verses from the Noble Quran and Sayings from our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him that push for freeing of slaves. The Islamic attitude toward slaves is very clear and straight forward: All slaves are eventually to be freed! And they were all freed during the times of Islam from the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Rapper Kam just confirmed the NOI teaches Muhammad was white.

 

[QBN]

Rapper Kam just confirmed the NOI teaches Muhammad was white.

Do you have a link breh? Wouldn't surprise me...it's been alleged they discriminate within the NOI based on complexion and W.D Farad doesn't look Black to me at all.

And it's interesting because NOI (at least some members) will defend against claims of Islam being an Arab imposed religion by claiming the "original" Arabs were Black.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Do you have a link breh? Wouldn't surprise me...it's been alleged they discriminate within the NOI based on complexion and W.D Farad doesn't look Black to me at all.

And it's interesting because NOI (at least some members) will defend against claims of Islam being an Arab imposed religion by claiming the "original" Arabs were Black.

KAM and CAPTAIN TAZARYACH (of ISUPK) Discuss Our Understanding of Our Nation and others

I am Speaking with Bro. Captain Tazaryach of ISUPK under Commanding General Yahanna💥ELIJAH MUHAMMAD & FARRAKHAN TEACH THAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD OF ARABIA (pbuh)...

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1 hour 44 min mark

 

[frankster]

Forgive me for not reading the entire thread....so if some one has posted this already - Thanks


My Consensus opinion is that Mohammad was what we today call "High Yellow" Black man.


Shama’il Tirmidhi, Hadith 1

“And he was neither white as lime (abyad al-amhaq) , nor brown (adam).”

Dala’il al-Nubuwah 1/204
“And he was white (abyad), his whiteness leaning to be tan (bayaduhu ilas-sumrah).”

Jami’ Tirmidhi, Hadith 1754
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was of average height, neither tall nor very short, he had a good build, brown in complexion

Kitab al-Tabaqat al-kabir, I/i,127
The Messenger of Allah (s) stretched his left foot, such that the blackness of its exposed part (zahiruha aswad) was visible.” ()​

The Prophet Muhammad of Arabia was a pure Arab from the Banū Hœshim clan Āf the Quraysh tribe. Not only were the original and true Arabs black ( aswad, akhḍar, udma), but the PrĀāhet’s āarticular tribe and clan were famously black. As Robert F. Spencer remarks: “It is said that the Quraysh exālained their shĀrt stature and dark skin by the fact that they always carefully adhered tĀ endĀgamy,” 1 and Henry Lammens tĀĀk nĀtice Āf “les Hœśimites, famille Āù dĀminait le sang nègre” (“the Hashimites, the family where Black blĀĀd dĀminated”), remarking further that the Banū Hœshim are “généralement qualifies de ﺁﺪﻢ= cĀuleur fĀncée” (“generally described as œdam = dark cĀlĀred”). 2

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Abraham was a Black Chaldean, his 2nd wife was a Black Egyptian; most muslims believe the aforementioned are the ancestors of the prophet Muhammad.