Most Powerful Religion. Christianity Islam or White Supremacy?

[Type Username Here]

Try to be smart and make ignorant posts about topics you have no knowledge of in early 2014 brehs.

Ok fakkit, great reply.

 

[Ikwa]

Ok fakkit, great reply.

What religion did Saudis and Persians start?

That's the American educational system for you

 

[Type Username Here]

What religion did Saudis and Persians start?

That's the American educational system for you

Stop being naive. You stay with this naive shyt in here. Did Islam not originate in what is today Saudi Arabia? The titles change the fact is the same.

 

[Ikwa]

Stop being naive. You stay with this naive shyt in here. Did Islam not originate in what is today Saudi Arabia? The titles change the fact is the same.

Considering that Saudi Arabia was created about 100 years ago and gets its name from a Tribal Family

What about Persia, what religion did they start off?

 

[Crakface]

Yes, the people who most benefit from classism in the present are white people. Classism is still the problem as you have helped me prove. Homogenous populations throughout history have practiced classism. Capitalism is classism. White supremacy is a major problem as well as racism stemming from that and other forms.

You didnt answer my question though.

White people do not see you as white so regardless of what class you were in, with more money then anyone in the world, you could not stop white supremacy from taking everything you have. Thats not an issue of class. Thats an issue of, you are non-white and your shyt is getting took because a white man feels like it. Classism hits a brick wall when people that supposedly are at the highest class aka royalty, are treated like less because of their so called racial status.

In your homeland Brazil, racism is a bigger problem then classism. Racism is the reason there are classes.

 

[Type Username Here]

Considering that Saudi Arabia was created about 100 years ago and gets its name from a Tribal Family

What about Persia, what religion did they start off?

Would it have been better if I said Arabs from Arabia in the locations that now are in the country of Saudi Arabia? Does that make you feel better?

Persian culture and customs had a major influence on Islam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islami...influence_on_Islamic_culture_and_civilization

A lot of Sunni criticism towards Shia customs is in direct regards to Persian non-Islamic customs integration into their sect of Islam. I'm not saying anything different than a lot of Sunnis have said.

 

[Type Username Here]

You didnt answer my question though.

White people do not see you as white so regardless of what class you were in, with more money then anyone in the world, you could not stop white supremacy from taking everything you have. Thats not an issue of class. Thats an issue of, you are non-white and your shyt is getting took because a white man feels like it. Classism hits a brick wall when people that supposedly are at the highest class aka royalty, are treated like less because of their so called racial status.

In your homeland Brazil, racism is a bigger problem then classism. Racism is the reason there are classes.

To address your first point, that seems like an issue with power, usually gathered by classism. If the world was ran in the exact same way, but dark skinned people were high in the power structures, could they also not theoretically take my shyt when they felt like it?

Back to Kemet, do you think the Pharaoh and his royal family couldn't do pretty much what they pleased?

I'm not understanding your point. I have already said that the top of the classes in the world are white, and white benefit most from classism. You have still failed to show me how it would be different if some other race practiced classism in this manner.

 

[Crakface]

To address your first point, that seems like an issue with power, usually gathered by classism. If the world was ran in the exact same way, but dark skinned people were high in the power structures, could they also not theoretically take my shyt when they felt like it?

Back to Kemet, do you think the Pharaoh and his royal family couldn't do pretty much what they pleased?

I'm not understanding your point. I have already said that the top of the classes in the world are white, and white benefit most from classism. You have still failed to show me how it would be different if some other race practiced classism in this manner.

Im not dealing with hypothetical conversations. Im talking about the world we live in in 2014.

The pharoah could not do what he pleased. He could not go to Puerto Rico and sterilize women. He could not go to Brazil and set up a system where non-whites make up 60 percent of the population and 2 percent are in college.

 

[Ikwa]

@Type Username Here now you know you can't be using them approximating talks around here :saywhat:

Again, there's a big difference between saying Persians invented a religion only to then backtrack to "they had an influence" :usure2:

 

[Type Username Here]

@Type Username Here now you know you can't be using them approximating talks around here :saywhat:

Again, there's a big difference between saying Persians invented a religion only to then backtrack to "they had an influence" :usure2:

They had a major influence . Many Sunnis think their sect is essentially its own religion that was co-opted and re-imagined with Persian customs and culture friend. Muslims on this board have said that way before I did.

 

[Ikwa]

They had a major influence . Many Sunnis think their sect is essentially its own religion that was co-opted and re-imagined with Persian customs and culture friend. Muslims on this board have said that way before I did.

Shiasm is a different sect of Islam. They make up less than 10% of all Muslims.

It started decades after the death of the Prophet, stop trynna make it look has if Shiasm was a foundation of Islam.

 

[Type Username Here]

Shiasm is a different sect of Islam. They make up less than 10% of all Muslims.

It started decades after the death of the Prophet, stop trynna make it look has if Shiasm was a foundation of Islam.

Where did I say it was a foundation of Islam? I said there was major influence, which is undeniable. Some of the cultural customs practiced today by Muslims, Sunni or not, has direct ties to Persia.

"Iran was indeed Islamized, but it was not Arabized. Persians remained Persians. And after an interval of silence, Iran reemerged as a separate, different and distinctive element within Islam, eventually adding a new element even to Islam itself. Culturally, politically, and most remarkable of all even religiously, the Iranian contribution to this new Islamic civilization is of immense importance. The work of Iranians can be seen in every field of cultural endeavor, including Arabic poetry, to which poets of Iranian origin composing their poems in Arabic made a very significant contribution. In a sense, Iranian Islam is a second advent of Islam itself, a new Islam sometimes referred to as Islam-i Ajam. It was this Persian Islam, rather than the original Arab Islam, that was brought to new areas and new peoples: to the Turks, first in Central Asia and then in the Middle East in the country which came to be called Turkey, and of course to India. The Ottoman Turks brought a form of Iranian civilization to the walls of Vienna..."[1]

 

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The most important scholars of almost all of the Islamic sects and schools of thought were Persian or lived in Iran including most notable and reliable Hadith collectors of Shia and Sunni like Shaikh Saduq, Shaikh Kulainy, Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim and Hakim al-Nishaburi, the greatest theologians of Shia and Sunni like Shaykh Tusi, Imam Ghazali, Imam Fakhr al-Razi and Al-Zamakhshari, the greatest physicians, astronomers, logicians, mathematicians,metaphysicians, philosophers and scientists like Al-Farabi, Avicenna, and Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī, the greatest Shaykh of Sufism like Rumi, and Abdul-Qadir Gilani.

 

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In 1377, the Arab sociologist, Ibn Khaldun, narrates in his Muqaddimah:[19]

"It is a remarkable fact that, with few exceptions, most Muslim scholars…in the intellectual sciences have been non-Arabs, thus the founders of grammar were Sibawaih and after him, al-Farsi and Az-Zajjaj. All of them were of Persian descent they invented rules of (Arabic) grammar. Great jurists were Persians. Only the Persians engaged in the task of preserving knowledge and writing systematic scholarly works. Thus the truth of the statement of the prophet (Muhammad) becomes apparent, 'If learning were suspended in the highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it"…The intellectual sciences were also the preserve of the Persians, left alone by the Arabs, who did not cultivate them…as was the case with all crafts…This situation continued in the cities as long as the Persians and Persian countries, Iraq, Khorasan and Transoxiana (modern Central Asia), retained their sedentary culture."

 

[Type Username Here]

Im not dealing with hypothetical conversations. Im talking about the world we live in in 2014.

The pharoah could not do what he pleased. He could not go to Puerto Rico and sterilize women. He could not go to Brazil and set up a system where non-whites make up 60 percent of the population and 2 percent are in college.

Friend, I know you think you are making a point here but I fail to see it. Technology has advanced. Classism has expanded through Colonialism and most importantly, capitalism. Capitalism is classism in its ultimate form.