Most Europeans want immigration ban from Muslim-majority countries, Pew Poll

[Maschine_Man]

How does this get negged? This is all from personal preference. I used to work with many male Muslims and they weren't nice people, hard to get on with. But every female Muslim I've met is nice and easy to talk to.

And same for the gay community, although a few can be cringey as fukk, they're generally always happy and fun to be around.

Facts breh but negged?

<colilogic>Thats because your a faq and an islamaphobe </colilogic>

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

hey, no one is tryna force sharia in my corner of the world

i just refuse to listen to the 'its racism, and only racism' bullshyt when it comes to the rejection of stone age muslim culture

I don't think it's racist to reject Sharia Law. It can be racist if you say all Muslims wish to bring Sharia to Britain. Or if Muslims are inherently bad folk.

The best thing about Western values (in terms of its propaganda) is that it seems universal. Westerners don't understand that if you inherently paint Muslims with one brush, you weaken the ideals of Westernization and thus doom your civilization.

 

[Maschine_Man]

I don't think it's racist to reject Sharia Law. It can be racist if you say all Muslims wish to bring Sharia to Britain. Or if Muslims are inherently bad folk.

The best thing about Western values (in terms of its propaganda) is that it seems universal. Westerners don't understand that if you inherently paint Muslims with one brush, you weaken the ideals of Westernization and thus doom your civilization.

What Race is muslim?? Just asking for a friend.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

The same eurocacs that condemned the US as a bunch of racist xenophobes but are voting for their own far-right anti-muslim candidates?

 

[BocaRear]

yeah well we see how well that works out, dont we

you cant just keep labelling every muslim who doesnt follow the quran to a T as 'not a real muslim' they ARE real muslims

Yeah it's turned out well in that several million muslims are living and assimilating in the Western world...

Also I didn't say they aren't "real muslims", I said that Islamic law is up to interpretation, and it is. A lot of universities actually offer courses on Islamic law and it

Scott Atran did a great study on why people are compelled towards extremist views and radicalisation and it generally has nothing to do with religion, Atran conducted an actual empirical study on the radicalisation process:


Often times, many of these terrorists are not devout muslims in that they drink, eat pork ect



Saying the issue is simply Islam is a lazy argument which doesn't take into account several contextual/cultural/geopolitical issues

 

[Maschine_Man]

Yeah it's turned out well in that several million muslims are living and assimilating in the Western world...

Also I didn't say they aren't "real muslims", I said that Islamic law is up to interpretation, and it is. A lot of universities actually offer courses on Islamic law and it

Scott Atran did a great study on why people are compelled towards extremist views and radicalisation and it generally has nothing to do with religion, Atran conducted an actual empirical study on the radicalisation process:


Often times, many of these terrorists are not devout muslims in that they drink, eat pork ect



Saying the issue is simply Islam is a lazy argument which doesn't take into account several contextual/cultural/geopolitical issues

A lot of universities have Muslim associations with connections to terror groups too.......

 

[BocaRear]

A lot of universities have Muslim associations with connections to terror groups too.......

Where's your evidence? This is a really sweeping statement, bordering on lunacy tbh

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

What Race is muslim?? Just asking for a friend.

Racism can be used as a synonym for bigotry or discrimination. Note that definitions for race aren't codified. It's not unheard of someone to refer to the English as a 'race'. Your pedantic tendency reveals your...autism?

 

[the cac mamba]

What Race is muslim?? Just asking for a friend.

it isnt, its a choice you make every day when you wake up

now im not playing dumb, of course there are plenty of people whose 'racism against muslims' is based on their appearance. but muslim is NOT a race at the end of the day

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Yeah it's turned out well in that several million muslims are living and assimilating in the Western world...

Also I didn't say they aren't "real muslims", I said that Islamic law is up to interpretation, and it is. A lot of universities actually offer courses on Islamic law and it

Scott Atran did a great study on why people are compelled towards extremist views and radicalisation and it generally has nothing to do with religion, Atran conducted an actual empirical study on the radicalisation process:


Often times, many of these terrorists are not devout muslims in that they drink, eat pork ect



Saying the issue is simply Islam is a lazy argument which doesn't take into account several contextual/cultural/geopolitical issues

Your're correct in pointing this out. Radicalization is usually a result of identity dislocation:
- Muslim youth who don't feel Western (perhaps due to bigotry, struggles with parents/peers) but also due their family's background. Has a crisis. Discovers 'true Islam' through a radical preacher online. Goes to Syria. Gets blown up.

Similar to what Dylan Roof went through.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

it isnt, its a choice you make every day when you wake up

now im not playing dumb, of course there are plenty of people whose 'racism against muslims' is based on their appearance. but muslim is NOT a race at the end of the day

It's an immutable characteristic which is quite difficult to change under normal circumstances. Saying that you can't be bigoted towards a religious group is odd - given the history of European Jewry. Which Cacs nearly destroyed in the 20th century.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Where's your evidence? This is a really sweeping statement, bordering on lunacy tbh

DAVID HOROWITZ: Tracking pro-terror campaigns on U.S. campuses

"The two leading organizations in this terrorist proxy campaign are the Muslim Students Association (MSA), which poses as a cultural group but is really a recruiting tool for its founding group, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), which was also created by a Brotherhood operative and takes an even more aggressive pro-terrorist role on campus defending Hamas rocket attacks on Israel and advancing its propaganda wars."

In Canada also...
Extremist links to Muslim Students Association not new; group has been monitored for years


Muslim Students' Association - Wikipedia




Lunacy huh?? maybe you just need to take your head out of the sand and realize that not everyone is just making shyt up bruh. The world is a cold place.


Edit...since they don't have wikipedia under the sand:

Muslim Brotherhood - Wikipedia

 

[Maschine_Man]

Racism can be used as a synonym for bigotry or discrimination. Note that definitions for race aren't codified. It's not unheard of someone to refer to the English as a 'race'. Your pedantic tendency reveals your...autism?

just because something isn't unheard of doesn't mean it isn't wrong.


If we can't even get semantics right in this country, how do we expect to fight real battles?


I mean, ppl are unjustly calling ppl islamaphobes, homophobes, xenophobes, racists, sexists, etc. all the time. How about we just stop misusing labels and start actually arguing the point.

 

[the cac mamba]

It's an immutable characteristic which is quite difficult to change under normal circumstances. Saying that you can't be bigoted towards a religious group is odd - given the history of European Jewry. Which Cacs nearly destroyed in the 20th century.

thats why i said you can

that doesnt change the fact that being a muslim is a choice you make every day when you make up. no one is born a muslim, believing in the quran or even knowing what it is, certainly not believing that its real

 

[Maschine_Man]

It's an immutable characteristic which is quite difficult to change under normal circumstances. Saying that you can't be bigoted towards a religious group is odd - given the history of European Jewry. Which Cacs nearly destroyed in the 20th century.

who said anything about bigotry towards a religion?

it's just not racism...