Mos Def on current rap: "I don't think we need more Crack Commercials"

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This is honestly one of the things that bugged me most about this genre since I was a kid.

nikka this is just rhyming words. You can rhyme words and make a song about anything. So why is 90% of the songs about selling drugs and killing [specifically] nikkas?

Imagine being a kid in the early 2000s. On the white radio stations you'd hear a song that's on some "fukk you mom, this is my own life" Linkin park shyt, next song would be on some love shyt, creed singing about wanting to be rockstar, a song about crushing on some chicks mom, rage fueled metal music, avirl lavine singing about her crush on a skater boy etc.

Then I turn to the rap station and it's: A song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. Another song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. Another song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. A song about how the rapper is richer than me and will fukk my bytch because he kills nikkas and sells drugs. No way black music is simply this creatively bankrupt

When I was a kid I bought the bs explanations of "These are our stories!" or "this is art imitating life!". Then when I became an adult I ended up learning just how many of these rappers were straight up lying in their lyrics and interviews.

At this point in my life I'm ready for nikkas to admit this shyt is social engineering and apologize to C Delores Tucker. Ready for mf to admit that in spite of knowing it's poison, nikkas are too sheepish/ too addicted to the poison to ever change anything.
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But it was cool when his generation did it?
It was never cool. Hip hop went from dissing the dope man(NWA, and many others) to becoming the dope man, to becoming the dope fiend. NWA's "dope man" was telling us how bad the dope man was and they even threatened him at the end of the song. Krs with "loves gonna getcha" scared the hell out of me as a teenager. I first heard that and swore I'd never sell drugs. K Solo the same year had one of the best storytelling songs of all time in "tales from the crackside" and showed the dangers of doing drugs. Now everyne is telling their listeners that they NEED to consume drugs. The whole lean movement was crazy. Mfers gotta get doped up on cough syrup to enjoy some slow music. wtf haha. I aint knocking anyone's culture from Texas, but I never understood it considering how dangerous that is. Selling crack and drugs on wax didn't become "cool' until around 1993. Before that, it would be hard to find songs glamorizing the drug game. If someone rhymed about selling or doing drugs, as K Solo or KRS, 9 times out of 10 at the end of the song, you saw the ramifications of it.
 

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This is honestly one of the things that bugged me most about this genre since I was a kid.

nikka this is just rhyming words. You can rhyme words and make a song about anything. So why is 90% of the songs about selling drugs and killing [specifically] nikkas?

Imagine being a kid in the early 2000s. On the white radio stations you'd hear a song that's on some "fukk you mom, this is my own life" Linkin park shyt, next song would be on some love shyt, creed singing about wanting to be rockstar, a song about crushing on some chicks mom, rage fueled metal music, avirl lavine singing about her crush on a skater boy etc.

Then I turn to the rap station and it's: A song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. Another song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. Another song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. A song about how the rapper is richer than me and will fukk my bytch because he kills nikkas and sells drugs. No way black music is simply this creatively bankrupt

When I was a kid I bought the bs explanations of "These are our stories!" or "this is art imitating life!". Then when I became an adult I ended up learning just how many of these rappers were straight up lying in their lyrics and interviews.

At this point in my life I'm ready for nikkas to admit this shyt is social engineering and apologize to C Delores Tucker. Ready for mf to admit that in spite of knowing it's poison, nikkas are too sheepish/ too addicted to the poison to ever change anything.
and this is why i went straight to the underground in 99. the variety in topics was much more diverse.

the last 20 something years of rap shyt is like if you had cable TV and 85% of the shyt on TV was tubi john wick and onlyfans. then 10% of the shyt was like FoxNews :mjlol:
 

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This is honestly one of the things that bugged me most about this genre since I was a kid.

nikka this is just rhyming words. You can rhyme words and make a song about anything. So why is 90% of the songs about selling drugs and killing [specifically] nikkas?

Imagine being a kid in the early 2000s. On the white radio stations you'd hear a song that's on some "fukk you mom, this is my own life" Linkin park shyt, next song would be on some love shyt, creed singing about wanting to be rockstar, a song about crushing on some chicks mom, rage fueled metal music, avirl lavine singing about her crush on a skater boy etc.

Then I turn to the rap station and it's: A song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. Another song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. Another song about killing nikkas and selling drugs. A song about how the rapper is richer than me and will fukk my bytch because he kills nikkas and sells drugs. No way black music is simply this creatively bankrupt

When I was a kid I bought the bs explanations of "These are our stories!" or "this is art imitating life!". Then when I became an adult I ended up learning just how many of these rappers were straight up lying in their lyrics and interviews.

At this point in my life I'm ready for nikkas to admit this shyt is social engineering and apologize to C Delores Tucker. Ready for mf to admit that in spite of knowing it's poison, nikkas are too sheepish/ too addicted to the poison to ever change anything.

Early 00s was mental slavery on steriods.
 

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Hip hop had already stated a decline by the time 98’ in terms of the culture and it’s golden era

It had gotten more mainstream by 98’ and was at its commercial peak but the quality overall for the most part was watered down

the good old days of 88’ to 96’ were gone

27, 28 next month…


The quality still had some thought into it.


Back then, someone was gonna pull up on you and test your nuts to see if you was spitting what u were spitting unlike now where u can be a rat, a fiend, or a fakkit and still have people bump your stuff.
 
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I thought dude was crazy.

We were playing these for a minute before the album dropped. And they were mad dope! So you couldn't tell me they weren't gonna be on there!

hell yeah, those songs were solid gold!

same here. i use to make mixtapes and i had put those songs on so many of my mixtapes


man, i bought two copies of Black on Both Sides in the same year.


another classic :blessed:
 
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27, 28 next month…


The quality still had some thought into it.


Back then, someone was gonna pull up on you and test your nuts to see if you was spitting what u were spitting unlike now where u can be a rat, a fiend, or a fakkit and still have people bump your stuff.

oh ok

it's gotten way worse now, of course

but to a lot of us hip hop back then, the late 90's was a dark period.

a lot of people speak highly of it now, for a variety of reasons

but 88 to 96 was the golden year

97, 98, 99 had some great and even classic albums, but the overall vibe of the culture and quality had really gone downhill and gotten watered down

hip hop had gone mainstream, and it become more and more about money and less about creativity and quality

sales become more of a talking point

that's why when i see these dudes on here constantly talking about how much an artist sells, im like "why do y'all care? what do you get from that?"

they spend more time discussing how much or how less an artist sells than they do the actual art
 

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When he didn't put these on Black on Both Sides, I almost boycotted the album.

:russ:

Two of my favorite tracks from Mos and Shawn J Period.
i maintain that kweli was at his peak around soundbombing 1 era. 2000 season is his best song

if mos had put out the medina green project :wow:
 
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oh ok

it's gotten way worse now, of course

but to a lot of us hip hop back then, the late 90's was a dark period.

a lot of people speak highly of it now, for a variety of reasons

but 88 to 96 was the golden year

97, 98, 99 had some great and even classic albums, but the overall vibe of the culture and quality had really gone downhill and gotten watered down

hip hop had gone mainstream, and it become more and more about money and less about creativity and quality

sales become more of a talking point

that's why when i see these dudes on here constantly talking about how much an artist sells, im like "why do y'all care? what do you get from that?"

they spend more time discussing how much or how less an artist sells than they do the actual art
I swear it's the dumbest shyt I've ever seen in my life. MFers don't even argue music anymore or how great songs are. The first thing they talk about is music streams(aint shyt selling) and chart position. These same people have never picked up and read a billboard magazine or own a label so I'm confused as to why the FUK, they are worried about album sales.
 
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I swear it's the dumbest shyt I've ever seen in my life. MFers don't even argue music anymore or how great songs are. The first thing they talk about is music streams(aint shyt selling) and chart position. These same people have never picked up and read a billboard magazine or own a label so I'm confused as to why the FUK, they are worried about album sales.

bruh, i legit do not understand that shyt at all.

i be seeing threads on here about sales and i be looking like "why is this important to y'all?!" :gucci:

you'd think these nikkas was these artists' wives looking for the rent money the way they be counting their (sales) money
 
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