More teens becoming "fake" Christians

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Every generation is smartening up a bit. Religion will be gone in a few hundred years

 

[Chris.B]

Every generation is smartening up a bit. Religion will be gone in a few hundred years

I would be too quick to celebrate...There has to be something used as a standard bearer for morality.

Most laws in the western world is based of the Bible.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I would be too quick to celebrate...There has to be something used as a standard bearer for morality.

Most laws in the western world is based of the Bible.

You can keep the laws and morality w/o the religion.

Morality is based on common sense anyway and modern law will continue to shift away from its archaic roots as society progresses.

 

[TheReal_Broke_88m3_13]

of course he would...I will not tolerate anyone willing-fully stepping into the hellfire

bu bu bu bu but:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...o-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html

 

[TheReal_Broke_88m3_13]

The thing is none of us will ever be perfect or else there would have been no reason for Jesus to come... but we must realize we are in the process of perfecting ourselves... eliminating our sinful ways day by day.

I feel ya breh, I'm working on perfecting my stroke game, day by day.

Lord please forgive for any women I may have left unsatisfied due to my selfish ways...

 

[kevm3]

bu bu bu bu but:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...o-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html

The pope isn't Jesus nor the bible... nor is the word pope even mentioned in the Bible at all.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

as opposed to a 'real' christian, huh

if christians followed the bible as strictly as al qaeda follows the quran, wed all be in danger. so i prefer these 'fake' christians

I love the "no true Scotsman" logical fallacy best.

 

[mbewane]

I always felt like the relation to god should be close and personal and always thought that religions were bad in the way they place the believer in a sheep-like state by giving them THE ways to believe and understand scriptures (because the sheep need a pastor and the pastor is the one who knows). I like the idea of people believing in god their way (even if I think that "God" is man-made) : that's true faith to me because religious faith is faith to the pastor and his words. Faith should have no middle-man.

The pope isn't Jesus nor the bible... nor is the word pope even mentioned in the Bible at all.

Why is there a Pope then breh?

 

[Schmoove]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0963154729/ref=pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Well my jesus is better than your jesus. Like Ricky bobby I prefer worshipping the infant jesus, since he was pure and snuggly.

Dear 8 pounds 6 ounces... new born infant jesus, don't even know a word yet, lyin' there in your ghost manger, just lookin' at your Baby Einstein developmental videos, learnin' 'bout shapes and colors. I would like to thank you for bringin' me and this site together, and I ask for its continued success

 

[Schmoove]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cost_of_Discipleship

 

[kevm3]

Why is there a Pope then breh?

Ask the catholic church. Supposedly the pope is a 'go through' to the Father and you must confess your sins to other men in the catholic church, but where is that in the Bible? Jesus says HE is the way to the father. He never said there were other men coming that would be the conduit to God.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Alright, but... you're obviously smarter than the average bear. Good luck telling these bible-thumping idiots I encounter every week that they're not perfect and superior just because they "have Jesus in their lives". It's sickening man.

Just ask them if they are free of sin...
IF Yes, tell them they should read the bible
If No, they're being honest and it SHOULD open up the door to teaching forgiveness and such.

There will always be dumb shyts, you'll never get rid of that.

 

[Brown_Pride]

You're disputing the apostles choice of words now?

nah he's disputing your undertones that Christians don't sin...which is incorrect.

We SHOULD NOT sin, doesn't mean we don't.

 

[Brown_Pride]

The interesting thing is that church dogma actually makes it easy for anybody to be a Christian without even being a Christian...Because church dogma gives you a bunch of rules and policies you need to follow, and if you break them, you can just confess to your priest or give your pastor an extra $100 on Sunday, and all your sins will be forgiven...

Hence, we end with all these Christians girls that some of the members are mentioning, they will be at your crib Saturday night slurping your penis, and then profess their undying love for the Holy Trinity with the same mouth on Sunday morning...

Bless God for these fine women and their godly ways...

Back to a serious note...Having a Christian mentality without the Church Dogma, just goes against everything we are as humans, and I am not even talking about attempting to attain a Christ-like persona...

1) Why should a true Christian have a savings account...? A) Jesus says not to worry about tomorrow, because God will provide B) If you have faith in this promise, why do you save money...? Who would God prefer, a Christian who says, "I will use the talent that God gave me to make lots of money, and use all that money to meet my basic needs, and then redistribute the rest to all other people who do not have my talent and opportunity. Because I believe as long as have a spiritual and physical righteous lifestyle, God will keep me healthy, so I can continue his work, of taking care of the less fortunate." Or will God prefer the Christian who says "you never know what will happen tomorrow. So, I am going to put all my money in the bank and make rich people rich, and it's God job to take care of the least fortunate."

2) How often does the average Christian drive around town in the coldest winters, and uses a spare bedroom in their big spacious houses to provide shelter for a homeless guy, for even just one night...?

I mean these are actions that the New Testament asks from any self-professing Christian, this is NOT dogma, because dogma says you okay for the year if you give a bum $10 during Christmas season..hahaha...And that;s what people do...

Just basic actions that can be done, are really impossible...

To true believe in God is to truly be fearless, you will invite a bum to your house and feed and cloth them, and you wont be scared because you truly believe you are doing the Lords work, and he will direct and protect you...

You will not keep a savings account, instead, you will use all the money you don't need after your needs have been met, to meet other less fortunate people's needs, and you will do this because you truly believe if you do your part a maintain a healthy physical, mental and spiritual lifestyle, God will be your provider, and God will keep you healthy and strong so you can continue with his work...

That's not dogma, and that's doable...But like I stated, it goes against EVERYTHING we are taught about survival...So, it's impossible...

There is no point being a Christian...You will either get killed by somebody you trying to help, or you will end up like Job, sick and miserable, except that there will not be riches at the end of your struggle...

Christianity is not functional, and thus, it's IMPOSSIBLE...For most people...

All very good points.
I personally feel like most Christians don't do enough, i mean honestly it's true. You're right we don't NEED to save, we should be putting that money out there for others. Keeping it 100 everything you said is 100% true about christianity in America. Most people (myself included simply do not do enough.)

It's not impossible, but it is hard as fuk.

We really need only look at what JC said though:

The Rich Man

17 As Jesus was starting out on his way to Jerusalem, a man came running up to him, knelt down, and asked, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good. 19 But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not murder. You must not commit adultery. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. You must not cheat anyone. Honor your father and mother.’[a]”

20 “Teacher,” the man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.”

21 Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,”he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell, and he went away sad, for he had many possessions.

23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples,“How hard it is for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God!” 24 This amazed them. But Jesus said again, “Dear children, it is very hard[b] to enter the Kingdom of God. 25 In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!”

26 The disciples were astounded. “Then who in the world can be saved?” they asked.

27 Jesus looked at them intently and said,“Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But not with God. Everything is possible with God.”

28 Then Peter began to speak up. “We’ve given up everything to follow you,” he said.

29 “Yes,” Jesus replied, “and I assure you that everyone who has given up house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or property, for my sake and for the Good News, 30 will receive now in return a hundred times as many houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and property—along with persecution. And in the world to come that person will have eternal life. 31 But many who are the greatest now will be least important then, and those who seem least important now will be the greatest then.[c]”

we've all heard this story. i bolded what i've found to be the most important piece, particularly in regards to what your'e saying, i underlined the most important part of the important parts.

First and foremost it IS impossible, not hard, impossible for a human to get into heaven. We don't get into heaven because of the things we do. You could be 100% righteous and still not get in, it's GOD who makes that possible.

Second,
when most people read this they hinge on the idea that rich people don't get to heaven. That's just not true. If you look at the last bolded section there's clearly degrees of "importance"; those great now will be "the least important". Based on JC's response i've taken this to mean that while you SHOULD give all your things away if you don't it's not the end of the world, but it does show your level of commitment and where your heart is. If your heart is in such a place that giving 10 bucks a year to bumb is what you think keeps you "christian" well honestly that's between you and the man upstairs, personally I think that's ridiculous, particularly if you're rich.

I'm not rich, I have the potential to be very well off, but I don't push that way to much. I drive a 2000 maxima, i could go get a new car today...but for what? I do give money, I do give time, is it enough? Probably not. I could always give more...and honestly that's something i'll have to take up with JC too. (i hope and pray i'll be ok because I feel my heart is in the right place, as are my actions...simply put i believe i'm where God has me right now so that's where I'm at.)

To be sure it's not easy...again it's impossible.