MONSTER KODY SANYIKA SHAKUR & 2PAC PHONE CONVO (DL LINK INSIDE)
ChaddyLack
Pro
Another person who gets it, I love the higher thought and intelligence in this thread. What you just mentioned was exactly one of the causes of Pac's killin the East dolo. He even spoke about it on that interview cd that came out where Sway interviewed him, one of the things he couldn't stand was muthafukkas throwing rocks and hiding their bytch ass hands. I was in high school in NC at the time, so I heard all these East Coast mixtapes. Shyt was absolutely true. They got what was coming to them because of it. And Pac had Newark with him.
ChaddyLack
Pro
Fukk it.
Yuk's verse
Double edit: forgot Master P caught a couple bars in that verse, I like P but Yuk was right dude bit him and Pac with his unreleased shyt.
Yuk's verse
Double edit: forgot Master P caught a couple bars in that verse, I like P but Yuk was right dude bit him and Pac with his unreleased shyt.
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
Negged
Props on the negs people...Most of ya'll leave comments with some of the dumbest responses...Like this one. Let me ask u something clown why would u neg me when I was refering to the culprits that where involved with Pac being set up for rape N!ggers? And then u referd to them as "Black people".....Wow....I bet u would neg me for refering to the guys who actually shot and killed Pac as n!ggers as well. SMH some of u people are too dumb.
First time I read Monsters book was in 97...I was the manager of Know Thy Self Bookstore which at the tim ewas on 142nd and Amsterdam in Harlem.....The bookstore had all of those hard to find Black themed books such as Metu Neter, The Ises Papers, Elijah Muhammads Theology Of Time CD's,
ect. Monster sbook was in the mix and as I did with pretty much every book in there I would sit behind the counter and read.....I remember how I would anticipate opening the store the next day to read the next chapters..It was then that I concluded Monster had the ability to be the next Malcolm X. This was the mid late 90's and teh essence of the Million Man March was still in the air. There was actual hope for some sort of Black revolution if not physically then atleast politically or consciously. I remember Monster doing these little articles in either Rap Pages or XXL(cant remember which) and he was dropping some real gems....I remember he concluded how at the end of Superfly Priest needed white hitmen to help him escape and that subconsciously it was telling Black audiences that a Blackman cant be free without the whitemans help. That was deep. The first time I saw him in motion was on BET when Aunt Cookie from Next Friday had that show with them 2 other chicks. He was quoting Dead Prez and dropping more gems. Dude in my eyes was really on some hero status sh*t. Then when I seen the DVD Street Wars in like 2002 or 2003 and seeing him just be himself...That was mind blowing cuz he was gangster but he spoke so intellegently....Like he had some sense. I showed that DVD to my teen mom cousin and she too pointed out how he stood out from everyone in that documentary. When the internet started to reallytake off I searched for anything related to Monster Kody...Hell till this day my original Yahoo name is Monster Kody(when I open it up it still says Hello Monster..LOL) When I heard about how he went back to prison and then his battle with crack cocaine that shyt broke my heart. This was after the 10 year anniversary of that Million Man March and it seemed as if all the hype from the 90's was officially dead. Fast foward to 2014 and here we are. No more hype just end results of a lot of problems. When I express this its not from hate its from seeing where all the talk went. Farrakhan is still telling people that Elijah Muhammad is alive on a ufo and worried about forien affairs when Chicago is in turmoil. If you dont understand where I'm coming from when I express my dissapointment at empty words then just stay blind. Let the talkers and rabble rousers keep you in a europhic state. Show me who your heros are and I can tell u who u are. When I point out the misteps Pac took its not from an angle of hate..Its being realistic. When being realistic is ignored when speaking on Pac then the conversation can never be observed properly and history will keep repeating itself.
ect. Monster sbook was in the mix and as I did with pretty much every book in there I would sit behind the counter and read.....I remember how I would anticipate opening the store the next day to read the next chapters..It was then that I concluded Monster had the ability to be the next Malcolm X. This was the mid late 90's and teh essence of the Million Man March was still in the air. There was actual hope for some sort of Black revolution if not physically then atleast politically or consciously. I remember Monster doing these little articles in either Rap Pages or XXL(cant remember which) and he was dropping some real gems....I remember he concluded how at the end of Superfly Priest needed white hitmen to help him escape and that subconsciously it was telling Black audiences that a Blackman cant be free without the whitemans help. That was deep. The first time I saw him in motion was on BET when Aunt Cookie from Next Friday had that show with them 2 other chicks. He was quoting Dead Prez and dropping more gems. Dude in my eyes was really on some hero status sh*t. Then when I seen the DVD Street Wars in like 2002 or 2003 and seeing him just be himself...That was mind blowing cuz he was gangster but he spoke so intellegently....Like he had some sense. I showed that DVD to my teen mom cousin and she too pointed out how he stood out from everyone in that documentary. When the internet started to reallytake off I searched for anything related to Monster Kody...Hell till this day my original Yahoo name is Monster Kody(when I open it up it still says Hello Monster..LOL) When I heard about how he went back to prison and then his battle with crack cocaine that shyt broke my heart. This was after the 10 year anniversary of that Million Man March and it seemed as if all the hype from the 90's was officially dead. Fast foward to 2014 and here we are. No more hype just end results of a lot of problems. When I express this its not from hate its from seeing where all the talk went. Farrakhan is still telling people that Elijah Muhammad is alive on a ufo and worried about forien affairs when Chicago is in turmoil. If you dont understand where I'm coming from when I express my dissapointment at empty words then just stay blind. Let the talkers and rabble rousers keep you in a europhic state. Show me who your heros are and I can tell u who u are. When I point out the misteps Pac took its not from an angle of hate..Its being realistic. When being realistic is ignored when speaking on Pac then the conversation can never be observed properly and history will keep repeating itself.
Nah cuz I don't have a problem with what you said here its the other bullshyt you been saying throughout the thread
...youll make a good post and then say some bullshyt,hyporcitical bullshyt that just has me
...Monster Kody who was a known killer "breaks your heart" when he goes back to doin what he been doin...Yet you ignore Pacs reasons for doing what he doin when he's giving you a glimpse inside his mind...and you say Biggie wasn't a problem but use 2 pac lyrics against him all while saying you can separate entertainment and reality...Pac cant help it that it felt more real when he said it
...If you just wanted to say the word "revolutionary" means something much bigger to you than what Pac embodied personally,dont think anybody could've faulted you for that....you came in on some angry shyt and on a mission to downplay everything GOOD thing Pac did and planned on doing....all while admiring Monster Kody and being heartbroken he didn't live up to his potential...you sound a little too damn angry and irrational,of course people are going to get defensive bcuz that's human nature....seem like you will spin shyt whichever way to fit your agenda then get mad when people don't want to discuss anything with you....im wasting my breath now to tell you why other people don't wanna waste they breath or are choosing to shyt on everything you saying being that it waste less time and energy to tell you "Get ya disgruntle east coast biggie stan azz outta here we see the agenda
"why not just leave on a good note
...years of watching revolutionariys you haven't learned how to talk to peopleThe last post was a good one,Why not just leave on a good note
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Nah cuz I don't have a problem with what you said here its the other bullshyt you been saying throughout the thread
First off...u quoted me wrong. Never once in any post did I say 'Biggie wasn't a problem'..I been saying for years that Biggies music was extra negative. So that destroys your claim that I used Pac lyrics against him as being hypocritical.
Pac cant help it that it felt more real when he said it
again...u are quoting me wrong. When the hell did I downplay EVERYTHING good Pac did u fool? Everything I have said has been a response to the posted video fool... I kept saying over and over again that Pac was a great rapper and actor. My only gripe was how the 2 men in that video didnt live up to their talk and I pointed out how Pac contradicted everything he said in that video by attacking Biggie the way he did and threatening to slice up Lauryns face. Thats a fact..not an opinion. I cant even respond to the part u mentioned about Monster Kody and me being heartbroken because u quoted me wrong.
seem like you will spin shyt whichever way to fit your agenda then get mad when people don't want to discuss anything with you....im wasting my breath now to tell you why other people don't wanna waste they breath or are choosing to shyt on everything you saying being that it waste less time and energy to tell you "Get ya disgruntle east coast biggie stan azz outta here we see the agenda
aa buddy...U just spinned everything I said by misquoting me. And then u are co signing the bullsh*t. I have one person who neged me because I brought up how Diddy was actually doing what Pac was only talking about with Daddys House and they left the comment "Diddy was a Judas"...LOL....Another person left the comment that he negged me because I refered to the people who were involved in Pac being set up for rape as N!ggers....LOL...I guess the guys who set Pac up shouldnt be referd to as N!ggers huh?.......Dudes arent even serious with their responses.
Even u....your response was one sided...U immediatly assume that I have an east coast bias because I didnt come in this thread to suck Pac off like most did. NO....I responded to the empty promises in the video. Thats it, end of story.
"Bigge was part of the problem? Are u freaking serious? What problem would that be ? Pac jumped on a record label that was known for negative gangster rap and Biggie was the problem? Biggie was a dope emcee.....if we talking Hip Hop the problem at the time would be wack lyrics. Biggie wasnt that"-smokeurobinson
Didn't see any mention of Biggies negative lyrics,the problem is only wack emcees and biggie wasn't that right? meanwhile you bring up Pacs lyrics to downplay Pac EXCESSIVLEY throughout the thread,all while saying you can separate entertainment from the person which you obviously cant....fukk outta here with that "bu bu but I said he was a good actor and rapper" don't do nobody no favors and throw us no bones you don't have a choice but to throw,thats not relevant to what we talking about or what you downplaying in this thread.
That's not all you did,but thanks,end of story goodbye.
And oh you got negged?
You think I give a fukk,you had it coming
...I don't know any black people that would call another black person ****** youd have to be a cac,so now that I think about it im taking time out to do something revolutionary ,take ACTION and neg the shyt out you.
"Bigge was part of the problem? Are u freaking serious? What problem would that be ? Pac jumped on a record label that was known for negative gangster rap and Biggie was the problem? Biggie was a dope emcee.....if we talking Hip Hop the problem at the time would be wack lyrics. Biggie wasnt that"-smokeurobinson
Didn't see any mention of Biggies negative lyrics,the problem is only wack emcees and biggie wasn't that right? meanwhile you bring up Pacs lyrics to downplay Pac EXCESSIVLEY throughout the thread,all while saying you can separate entertainment from the person which you obviously cant....fukk outta here with that "bu bu but I said he was a good actor and rapper" don't do nobody no favors and throw us no bones you don't have a choice but to throw,thats not relevant to what we talking about or what you downplaying in this thread.
That's not all you did,but thanks,end of story goodbye.
And oh you got negged?
You think I give a fukk,you had it coming
U piece oif sh*t....again u misquoted me.....u only took bits and pieces of my words and spun them to fit your bullsh*t.....U just quoted something that had nothing to do with comparing who had negative lyrics.....U quoted me responding to someone who cliamed Pac went after Biggie for some sort of grand cause......Had nothing to do with negative lyrics..You're a piece of sh*t for misquoting me like that.....as a matter of a fact....Notice how this following quote contradicts everything u just said
Thats my response on page 23 of me comparing Snoops negative lyrics to Biggie negative lyrics...
so that contradicts your whole statement idiot.
I cant even have a resonable convo with you...U just misquoted me again and more then likely it was on purpose because I was actually making sense.
The fact that u have misquoted me over and over again proves that you aren't even serious. I'm done talking to u....Misquoting me just to prove a point doesnt prove a point.
If I didn't understand what you meant I didn't understand what you meant,dont act like I need to misquote you on purpose as if you dropping gems and making perfect sense. So far I haven't misquoted you yet,and my point still stands.....if im taking you out of context you taking Pacs lyrics out of context as if they WERENT ENTERTAINMENT which supposedly you are able to distinguish from reality but haven't shown you can yet by the fact you keep quoting battle rap lyrics....you've already been exposed in this thread as a hypocrite so I don't need to do anymore damage by taking you out of context,so my bad posters reading this he wasn't saying biggie wasn't a problem,he did say Kody broke his heart like a ho though
,and he did use the word "n1ggers" like a cac and proudly I might add.You happy I cleared it up now
?You lucky you post pics of bad bytches from time to time or you might be the first person to make my ignore list
UserNameless
Veteran
Some real heartfelt words. I respect that, tho.
Dzali OG
Dz Ali OG...Pay me like you owe me!
My dude Pac was a Revolutionary...he was just in the beginning stages...but he at least was there.
Did he have his demons and did he eventually succumb to nikka shyt, yes he did. But that us simply the world he lived in.
Every one you view as a revolutionary person also had their own demons. They also had (metaphorically) people who's face they had to slice. Your life doesn't stop because you have visions of revolution. Especially when you are still young. You may still need to get into some gangsta shyt.
As benevolent as the USA may see itself, IT still has to do some ratchet stuff.
Tupac had the power to organize and move nikkas. I know because I was a grown man in them streets then. He wasn't quite there...but give him another 5-10 years and Pac would have had black people on the path to something. Them peeps out West and nikkas down South had Pac ' BACK. Many are just now moving on.
ChaddyLack
Pro
Not to get off topic, but since this word is getting thrown around alot, on Hypocrites....
Sorry fam, I'm making all kinda connections cause I'm off that Loud dusted with Kanna. Peep game. Google that shyt if you never heard
Sorry fam, I'm making all kinda connections cause I'm off that Loud dusted with Kanna. Peep game. Google that shyt if you never heard