Minister Farrakhan Responds To Young Buck, Big Meech, And BG

[LilJuicyTaco]

If you look into the assassination deeply it shows the F.B.I and I think the C.I.A or police force all conspired to kill Malcolm, the people that pulled the trigger may have been from the Nation but they were being used as pawns. The Nation had also been infiltrated. Even Malcolm said he was going to stop saying it was the Nation as it went deeper than that.

I agree that the nation was/is infiltrated by cia/fbi or even may be their group. I also agree that a member killed them (both Malcolm and Khalid) regardless of whether or not they were pawns the group still did it, knows who did it and welcomed their deaths. I don't see how the fbi/cia using the noi member(s) to kill either of them is a valid defense though. The noi isn't screaming for the killers to be caught so this leads me to believe they were down with it. Malcom said they would kill him right before they did. The video I posted he says similar.

That aside the noi beliefs are still bs and it's still a cult. Louis says some good things here and there but not enough to make me go along with the overall message. How much is he worth again?

 

[The Ruler 09]

I agree that the nation was/is infiltrated by cia/fbi or even may be their group. I also agree that a member killed them (both Malcolm and Khalid) regardless of whether or not they were pawns the group still did it, knows who did it and welcomed their deaths. I don't see how the fbi/cia using the noi member(s) to kill either of them is a valid defense though. The noi isn't screaming for the killers to be caught so this leads me to believe they were down with it. Malcom said they would kill him right before they did. The video I posted he says similar.

That aside the noi beliefs are still bs and it's still a cult. Louis says some good things here and there but not enough to make me go along with the overall message. How much is he worth again?

In an organisation of that magnitude it's impossible to control each and every member. What the NOI did do at the time though was make Malcolm out to be the enemy and an evil traitor and hypocrit, apparently Elijah said to leave him alone but some of the more ardent radical followers thought they were doing a righteous murder. They possibly could of handled that better in hindsight, if they had stated their position that he was lost and misguided rather than making him out to be worthy of death. Cause I don't think what Malcolm said, whether wrong or right made him worthy of death, but people took Elijah's position seriously, they saw him as a divinly inspired man. Malcolm's organisations were also infiltrated. I believe the C.I.A hired the ballroom very close to the murder, possibly was the week prior. That's the question that's up in the air, did Elijah or Farrakhan know before hand or not, they would probably say no. Well to be honest I HAVE seen several times the Nation members ask/demand a through investigation.. will try find a link....
One of the ones I saw was on a talkshow, trying to remember which one it was but one of the supposed murderers was also on it, but the nation representive said they wanted an investigation. It isn't a defensive of the deed, but it's a question mark against condemnation of the Nation for the actual murder when we don't know if it was the Nation or a member of the Nation going against the Nation's wishes. Like you might have a christian church but one of the members murders someone, that doesn't mean the chruch neccesarily permitted and ordered it. Yeah some people in the NOI definitely wanted Malcolm dead, he was chased by these people, it looks to appear like Joseph X firebombed Malcolm's house also, but was he given the orders... possibly, possibly not, guess we don't know. I'm not in the Nation so I don't subscribe to their religious beliefs, while I am open minded.... I don't go along with the whole message either,I agree with I'd imagine about 60 percent of what Farrakhan says. But I watch and pay attention to what he says as I find him interesting, can be inspiring, and is a historical figure. He does drop a lot of wisdom too and do some good things and I respect that even though I can't fully support everything he says.

 

[The Ruler 09]

I believe this is the link I mentioned... actually I'll post them all here...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joAO81fitgs[/ame]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzliLcsCHE&feature=relmfu[/ame]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m9NXcGG--U&feature=relmfu[/ame]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6dH3WTCHDA&feature=relmfu[/ame]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPH7biAPO1Y&feature=relmfu[/ame]

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

I agree that the nation was/is infiltrated by cia/fbi or even may be their group. I also agree that a member killed them (both Malcolm and Khalid) regardless of whether or not they were pawns the group still did it, knows who did it and welcomed their deaths. I don't see how the fbi/cia using the noi member(s) to kill either of them is a valid defense though. The noi isn't screaming for the killers to be caught so this leads me to believe they were down with it. Malcom said they would kill him right before they did. The video I posted he says similar.

That aside the noi beliefs are still bs and it's still a cult. Louis says some good things here and there but not enough to make me go along with the overall message. How much is he worth again?

What you see may not be what it appears to be.... Including what you know and understand about the NOI and their stance. What do you find about their beliefs to be bs?

 

[ecnirp1]

to the Minister for dropping this, and so much other heat over the years

 

[Majestic Pape]

You just knew this thread was going to get derailed.

 

[mortuus est]

You just knew this thread was going to get derailed.

for real, but what farrakhan was saying isn't new to a lot of us anyway.

 

[Canada Goose]

It's safe to say Farrakhan executive produced Food & Liquor 2..

 

[Still Benefited]

for real, but what farrakhan was saying isn't new to a lot of us anyway.

Basically,don't get me wrong he gives great sppeches but nuthing past a lot of southern baptist preachers....I respect he's a symbol off black power and respect,and he's a man of his convinctions but I hesitate to put him with great speakers outside of him givin great speeches if that makes sense....I've never really seen him challenged and answer a question so beatifully that even sumbody who didn't agree with him already might be influenced to change they position bcuz he says sumthin so deep....it usually consist of him sticking to his guns and speaking with convinction using the talking points.....if he wuznt the symbol he wuz of respect and power, nikkas would look at him any different than T.D Jakes...and god knows nikkas who ain't christian ain't throwin salutes and givin a damn about what t.d jakes is sayin...I'm gon have to check out more interviews and what not where he's challenged,what I've seen so far he doesn't really move me to believe anything I didn't already have the same opinion on.....I look for foward thinking and the ability to change the thoughts of people who wuznt like minded in the first place....farakhan ain't THAT LEVEL of speaker to me,considering his rank I would actually expect more....he's not a foward thinker imo,and sum one to have his position I would expect that,if we supposed to look at him as sumthin more as he is and a leader to black folks at large....he should be a leader of muslim brothers and nuthing more,not black people in general....bcuz Malcolm wuz NOI and came to embody that,doesn't mean Farakhan sumhow fits the bill or the next NOI head nikka in charge either.....Martin Luther King did a lot for black folks but we didn't go grab up the nikka who took over his church and act like his opinions on black people mattered....oh wait I forgot about Jessee....but I salute farakhan just for the symbol he is,this interview wuznt sayin shyt tho

 

[Super Ramon]

NOI IS A BUNCH OF BULLshyt. THATS WHY MALCOLM X LEFT

 

[Wild self]

@ this thread getting sidetracked. Guess the truth about Big Meech is too much to handle. Can't believe the community stooped down to a level where a community poisoner is more worshiped than Farrakhan.

Imagine when he passes on, and no one left to keep ignorance in check. That's the way the future is gonna be, and I'm afraid that is going to be much sooner than you think.

 

[Consigliere]

Farrakhan is a og false profit

 

[MBwithadream]

@ this thread getting sidetracked. Guess the truth about Big Meech is too much to handle. Can't believe the community stooped down to a level where a community poisoner is more worshiped than Farrakhan.

Imagine when he passes on, and no one left to keep ignorance in check. That's the way the future is gonna be, and I'm afraid that is going to be much sooner than you think.

There no Yesahua's in the US. Why do you think we got in this mess in the first place?

Think Jesse & Al gonna take a bullet?

Think Farrakhan gonna challenge Obama to talk about what happen in Libya?

Think Lupe gonna give a real reason about we shouldn't like the president?

They're all bytch-made, it's so unfortunate my nikkas.

 

[Danie84]

I listen to what jewels Mr. Farrakahn is dropping later