Mike Tyson vs Deontay Wilder: Who Wins?

[seemorecizzy]

Tyson couldn't kill Buster Douglass, why should I think he would kill Wilder?
Didn't kill a natural cruiserweight in Holyfield either.
Didn't kill a natural HW with a jab and power like Lennox Lewis either.

I was just told on this thread that "prime" Tyson's best names were a natural Lt HW and a retired HW.

Prime Tyson would get his ass beat if those are the scalps he is bringing to the table.



Nah the two best names on "prime" Tyson's resume isn't as good as Stiverne, ARreola, or Ortiz. LOL

No Wilder didn't call out Tyson, he simply responded to Tyson hating on him.

The best version of "Tyson" was beating two shot old ass fighters who were paid to leave retirement.

i thought you were just playing
its pretty sad you actually think wilder could beat mike tyson

I'm #BOMBSQUADDDDDDD all day, but jesus christ

 

[merklman]

Tyson couldn't kill Buster Douglass, why should I think he would kill Wilder?
Didn't kill a natural cruiserweight in Holyfield either.
Didn't kill a natural HW with a jab and power like Lennox Lewis either.

I was just told on this thread that "prime" Tyson's best names were a natural Lt HW and a retired HW.

Prime Tyson would get his ass beat if those are the scalps he is bringing to the table.



Nah the two best names on "prime" Tyson's resume isn't as good as Stiverne, ARreola, or Ortiz. LOL

No Wilder didn't call out Tyson, he simply responded to Tyson hating on him.

The best version of "Tyson" was beating two shot old ass fighters who were paid to leave retirement.

A lot of fighters including Wilder wouldve beaten Mike on that night in Tokyo. Active Mike fighting 4 times a year was a different animal. Drugged up , lazy non training buster douglas version was a blot, not prime.

 

[David_TheMan]

i thought you were just playing
its pretty sad you actually think wilder could beat mike tyson

I'm #BOMBSQUADDDDDDD all day, but jesus christ

I'm just playing the hypothetical game started when Tyson fans try to shyt on Wilder's resume.
Mike doesn't have the resume for any of his fans to talk this way.

Also I can tell you are a novice to the sport, with how little you can actually support your worship of Tyson.
Mike Tyson is hype, his resume is terrible, never beat another ATG and his "prime" he fought no one of note.

A lot of fighters including Wilder wouldve beaten Mike on that night in Tokyo. Active Mike fighting 4 times a year was a different animal. Drugged up , lazy non training buster douglas version was a blot, not prime.

LOL
Mike being a mental midget, lazy, and a druggie is his own fault.
Maybe his prime would have lasted long if he took his career seriously.

 

[seemorecizzy]

I'm just playing the hypothetical game started when Tyson fans try to shyt on Wilder's resume.
Mike doesn't have the resume for any of his fans to talk this way.

Also I can tell you are a novice to the sport, with how little you can actually support your worship of Tyson.
Mike Tyson is hype, his resume is terrible, never beat another ATG and his "prime" he fought no one of note.


LOL
Mike being a mental midget, lazy, and a druggie is his own fault.
Maybe his prime would have lasted long if he took his career seriously.

bro if prime tyson fought prime wilder, wilder is getting knocked out
all these other debates you are trying to have are pointless
you're taking away from his great victory last night by draggin this on

its sad you think tyson knocking out wilder is a "worship" statement lol
its just common sense, nothing over the top or crazy

 

[merklman]

I'm just playing the hypothetical game started when Tyson fans try to shyt on Wilder's resume.
Mike doesn't have the resume for any of his fans to talk this way.

Also I can tell you are a novice to the sport, with how little you can actually support your worship of Tyson.
Mike Tyson is hype, his resume is terrible, never beat another ATG and his "prime" he fought no one of note.


LOL
Mike being a mental midget, lazy, and a druggie is his own fault.
Maybe his prime would have lasted long if he took his career seriously.

Yup you're right, Mike took his eye off the ball. But prime Mike more likely than not would get Wilder outta there within 6.


DIdnt beat an ATG?Didnt he beat Larry Holmes?

Tell me, who "of note" did Mike not fight in his "prime"? The mid to late 80's weren't great. You have no objectivity in your assessment bruh, if you want to shyt on Tysons resume, thats fine, but you how can you even try to defend Wilders in comparison? That's some clown shyt

 

[David_TheMan]

bro if prime tyson fought prime wilder, wilder is getting knocked out
all these other debates you are trying to have are pointless
you're taking away from his great victory last night by draggin this on

its sad you think tyson knocking out wilder is a "worship" statement lol
its just common sense, nothing over the top or crazy

LOL
Nothing in Mike Tyson's career tells me he knocks out man who can make him to to sleep with a grazing shot.
Mike always had issues with a jabber, and being that he was orthodox swarmer, and Deontay is of the Liston/Foreman power slugger fighting style that was always an issue for the Cus style swarmers I see Mike getting knocked out in a quicker version of the Lennox fight, or similar to what foreman did to Frazier.

I'm not taking away from shyt, half you bytches crying about Tyson are doing it to take away from Deontay. I'm just playing that game right back with you.
If its common sense you tell me if Buster Douglas could land his right and put Mike on his ass why couldn't Deontay?

Yup you're right, Mike took his eye off the ball. But prime Mike more likely than not would get Wilder outta there within 6.


DIdnt beat an ATG?Didnt he beat Larry Holmes?

Tell me, who "of note" did Mike not fight in his "prime"? The mid to late 80's weren't great. You have no objectivity in your assessment bruh, if you want to shyt on Tysons resume, thats fine, but you how can you even try to defend Wilders in comparison? That's some clown shyt

Mike Tyson myths, if Mike tyson wasn't a quitter and wasnt mentally weak, it would be great to see what he would have done, but he was a head case with major personality issue
LOL Larry Holmes was washed when Tyson fought him. 2 years retired after being between twice by a Light Heavy. The same light heavy who then only fought one other HW and semi-retired before trying to get one last payday against Mike.
This is who you all use to establish the myth of "prime" Mike Tyson. LOL

I don't have to say who he did not fight, who the fukk did he fight? Nobody. Period. End of Discussion. Don't shyt on anyone elses resume when the resume of the fighter you are backing is notoriously terrible.

 

[Gravity]

Nah the two best names on "prime" Tyson's resume isn't as good as Stiverne, ARreola, or Ortiz. LOL

Youre clearly just a dikkriding fakkit who doesn’t know anything about boxing. There isn’t one win worth mentioning on all 3 of those guys’ resumes combined. at any of those bums being better than Holmes and Spinks.

No Wilder didn't call out Tyson, he simply responded to Tyson hating on him.

You can keep repeating this same spin all you want, it just exposes what an irrational dikkrider you are for wilder. I’m not the only 1 who thought he was tripping calling mike out. Obviously the word/opinion of someone like Lennox Lewis holds more weight than some lame internet troll.

The best version of "Tyson" was beating two shot old ass fighters who were paid to leave retirement.

Who we’re still clearly better than everybody on wilder’s resume arguably including Ortiz. Wilder finally gets in the ring with a live opponent and is forced to go life and death but he’d beat the best version of mike Tyson. It’s not even clear that he beats the best version of Ortiz who’s 38. Keep trolling tho cocksucker.

 

[Newzz]

LOL
Trying to change the subject, and failing.
The question is not who Holmes are Spinks are as fighters, it who they were when Mike Tyson fought them.
Spinks was fighting for a check and was damn near retired and Holmes was retired and hadn't fought in 2 years. That is who Tyson fought. The Ortiz we saw last night was better than both of those fighters when Tyson fought them. He showed a greater will to win and fight than Spinks did, he showed better reflexes, head movement, punch selection, and power than Holmes did when he fought Tyson. This is a fact.

You can't even discuss boxing now, you scrambling trying to whine about me because you can't deny the fact that according to your own standard, the best names on "prime" Tyson's resume are two fighters one a HW ATG who had been in retirement for 2 years and the other a career lt HW who only had 1 fight in 2 years and had bad knees and semi-retired. LOL.

Deontay didn't call out Tyson. AGain he responded to Tyson talking shyt about him. That isn't calling him out, calling him out and saying Tyson should fight him today.
As for Tyson's resume, you are the one who was trying to big up Tyson's resume and diminish Wilder. Fact is, Tyson has one of the worst resumes of any HW who is talked about being great. That isn't opinion that is fact.

Not to mention Spinks was scared to death of Tyson...so he folded like a coward asap.

 

[merklman]

LOL
Nothing in Mike Tyson's career tells me he knocks out man who can make him to to sleep with a grazing shot.
Mike always had issues with a jabber, and being that he was orthodox swarmer, and Deontay is of the Liston/Foreman power slugger fighting style that was always an issue for the Cus style swarmers I see Mike getting knocked out in a quicker version of the Lennox fight, or similar to what foreman did to Frazier.

I'm not taking away from shyt, half you bytches crying about Tyson are doing it to take away from Deontay. I'm just playing that game right back with you.
If its common sense you tell me if Buster Douglas could land his right and put Mike on his ass why couldn't Deontay?



Mike Tyson myths, if Mike tyson wasn't a quitter and wasnt mentally weak, it would be great to see what he would have done, but he was a head case with major personality issue
LOL Larry Holmes was washed when Tyson fought him. 2 years retired after being between twice by a Light Heavy. The same light heavy who then only fought one other HW and semi-retired before trying to get one last payday against Mike.
This is who you all use to establish the myth of "prime" Mike Tyson. LOL

I don't have to say who he did not fight, who the fukk did he fight? Nobody. Period. End of Discussion. Don't shyt on anyone elses resume when the resume of the fighter you are backing is notoriously terrible.

You said :

Mike Tyson is hype, his resume is terrible, never beat another ATG and his "prime" he fought no one of note.

So he did beat an ATG then? You're contradicting yourself. . .so lets change the goal posts now ehh

I don't have to say who he did not fight, who the fukk did he fight? Nobody. Period. End of Discussion. Don't shyt on anyone elses resume when the resume of the fighter you are backing is notoriously terrible.

You have such little objectivity that you cant see thats exactly the case for Wilder

Tyson's "shyt" resume shyts all over Deontays. Ill make this easier for you:

Tyson: Berbick, Bonecrusher, Pinklon, Tony Tucker, Larry holmes, Tony Tubbs, Spinks, Bruno x 2, Buster Douglas, Razor Ruddock x2, Holyfield x2, Lennox,

Wilder: Audrey Harrison Stiverne? Arreola? Ortiz, Eric molina?

Again, Tell me, who "of note" did Mike not fight in his "prime"?

Because this is some going round in circles shyt. The ATG's he fought were out of prime or whatever, but then Mike was severely out of prime when he fought guys that are ATGs - Lennox, Holyfield. But according to you Lennox and Evander are nobodies This is where master teacher pops up out of nowhere saying "you dont know shyt about boxing" right?



What we do know is Wilder's fought hot trash his whole career, minus last night (a 38 year old dude who has done nothing of note in his career )

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

LOL
Nothing in Mike Tyson's career tells me he knocks out man who can make him to to sleep with a grazing shot.
Mike always had issues with a jabber, and being that he was orthodox swarmer, and Deontay is of the Liston/Foreman power slugger fighting style that was always an issue for the Cus style swarmers I see Mike getting knocked out in a quicker version of the Lennox fight, or similar to what foreman did to Frazier.

I'm not taking away from shyt, half you bytches crying about Tyson are doing it to take away from Deontay. I'm just playing that game right back with you.
If its common sense you tell me if Buster Douglas could land his right and put Mike on his ass why couldn't Deontay?



Mike Tyson myths, if Mike tyson wasn't a quitter and wasnt mentally weak, it would be great to see what he would have done, but he was a head case with major personality issue
LOL Larry Holmes was washed when Tyson fought him. 2 years retired after being between twice by a Light Heavy. The same light heavy who then only fought one other HW and semi-retired before trying to get one last payday against Mike.
This is who you all use to establish the myth of "prime" Mike Tyson. LOL

I don't have to say who he did not fight, who the fukk did he fight? Nobody. Period. End of Discussion. Don't shyt on anyone elses resume when the resume of the fighter you are backing is notoriously terrible.

I don't know, man. Deontay gets sloppy with his punches and Tyson took punches that would've dropped any other Heavyweight in that Douglas fight and he was still able to put Douglas down(and nearly KO'd depending on who you ask about the count).

A question would be how does Deontay stack up with the heavyweights from the late 80s and early 90s

 

[David_TheMan]

Youre clearly just a dikkriding fakkit who doesn’t know anything about boxing. There isn’t one win worth mentioning on all 3 of those guys’ resumes combined. at any of those bums being better than Holmes and Spinks.

You can keep repeating this same spin all you want, it just exposes what an irrational dikkrider you are for wilder. I’m not the only 1 who thought he was tripping calling mike out. Obviously the word/opinion of someone like Lennox Lewis holds more weight than some lame internet troll.

Who we’re still clearly better than everybody on wilder’s resume arguably including Ortiz. Wilder finally gets in the ring with a live opponent and is forced to go life and death but he’d beat the best version of mike Tyson. It’s not even clear that he beats the best version of Ortiz who’s 38. Keep trolling tho cocksucker.

I don't know about boxing, yet I can clearly state my case and provide a rationale for my position, while you are stuck making up shyt, admitting the man you are trying to compare resumes with has no substance to his resume, and having no idea in general the status of the fighters you are discussing when they fought tyson.

Nothing irrational at all about what I've said.

The fact that you are trying to shyt on Deontay when Tyson in his prime got KO'd by Buster Douglas, not hurt and stunned, not knocked down, KO'd by fukking Buster Douglas tells me all I need to know about you Tyson dikkriders.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

I don't know about boxing, yet I can clearly state my case and provide a rationale for my position, while you are stuck making up shyt, admitting the man you are trying to compare resumes with has no substance to his resume, and having no idea in general the status of the fighters you are discussing when they fought tyson.

Nothing irrational at all about what I've said.

The fact that you are trying to shyt on Deontay when Tyson in his prime got KO'd by Buster Douglas, not hurt and stunned, not knocked down, KO'd by fukking Buster Douglas tells me all I need to know about you Tyson dikkriders.

Tyson would've gotten up in time if he wasn't trying to put this mouth guard back in.

 

[Gravity]

I don't know about boxing yet I can clearly state my case and provide a rationale for my position, while you are stuck making up shyt, admitting the man you are trying to compare resumes with has no substance to his resume, and having no idea in general the status of the fighters you are discussing when they fought tyson.

The only rationale for your position is that you seemingly have a homosexual crush on wilder. Nothing you’ve said supports your position that wilder could beat the best version of Tyson. The resume comparison is your argument and it’s invalid because whatever you want to say about tyson’s resume it’s better than wilder’s.

Nothing irrational at all about what I've said.

Of course you’re not going to admit it cocksucker.

The fact that you are trying to shyt on Deontay when Tyson in his prime got KO'd by Buster Douglas, not hurt and stunned, not knocked down, KO'd by fukking Buster Douglas tells me all I need to know about you Tyson dikkriders.

Wilder said that he could beat a 1986 version of Tyson so why do you keep bringing up 1990 Tyson? Especially after folk have already pointed out that the mike that lost to buster wasn’t the best version of mike. Rhetorical question. You’re just a piece of shyt troll that’s why you do that. You bytchmade punk, you cant even keep it real in an Internet debate.

 

[David_TheMan]

You said :


So he did beat an ATG then? You're contradicting yourself. . .so lets change the goal posts now ehh



You have such little objectivity that you cant see thats exactly the case for Wilder

Tyson's "shyt" resume shyts all over Deontays. Ill make this easier for you:

Tyson: Berbick, Bonecrusher, Pinklon, Tony Tucker, Larry holmes, Tony Tubbs, Spinks, Bruno x 2, Buster Douglas, Razor Ruddock x2, Holyfield x2, Lennox,

Wilder: Audrey Harrison Stiverne? Arreola? Ortiz, Eric molina?

Again, Tell me, who "of note" did Mike not fight in his "prime"?

Because this is some going round in circles shyt. The ATG's he fought were out of prime or whatever, but then Mike was severely out of prime when he fought guys that are ATGs - Lennox, Holyfield. But according to you Lennox and Evander are nobodies This is where master teacher pops up out of nowhere saying "you dont know shyt about boxing" right?



What we do know is Wilder's fought hot trash his whole career, minus last night (a 38 year old dude who has done nothing of note in his career )

Objectively they fought good comp, nothing great.
But Wilder has fought the same level and not been KO'd by a Buster Douglas level fighter whereas MIke did.

 

[David_TheMan]

I don't know, man. Deontay gets sloppy with his punches and Tyson took punches that would've dropped any other Heavyweight in that Douglas fight and he was still able to put Douglas down(and nearly KO'd depending on who you ask about the count).

A question would be how does Deontay stack up with the heavyweights from the late 80s and early 90s

I think the power Deontay has would make him dangerous for every Heavyweight in the history of the sport. He doesn't even land clean and he has people hurt badly.
You could touch Tyson with your jab and Deontay has a great one, that would freeze Tyson and if Wilder lands Tyson is going to sleep.
We saw what happened when Lennox touched his ass.
WE saw what happaned when Buster touched his ass.

Wilder lands his right he is going to sleep