Mike Tyson vs Deontay Wilder: Who Wins?

[David_TheMan]

at Deontay Wilder having irrational dikkriders.

So tell me who was the best win on "prime" Tyson's resume if he was out of his prime when Buster knocked his ass out?

 

[Strapped]

Responding to a hater and saying you could beat them after they shyt on you isn't calling someone out.
Calling someone out has never been saying I could beat you, either, now your ass making up definitions to save face. SMH

Mike that lost to Douglas was in his physical prime, its his own fault that he didn't have the discipline to take care of business.
That said if he was out of his prime when Buster knocked his ass out, you are telling me the best win was who?
Beating a light HW in Spinks who hadn't fought for a year and was set to retire?
Beating a shot Holmes who hadn't fought in 2 years, after back to back losses to a Light HW and who admitted he only came back for a check?

If that is the accomplishment of a "prime Tyson" he isn't shyt.

Mike's downfall was marrying robin givens , being on psychotic meds & the desirie washington fiasco sending him to jail

 

[Gravity]

So tell me who was the best win on "prime" Tyson's resume if he was out of his prime when Buster knocked his ass out?

Spinks and Holmes, what's your point? Again, wilder went life and death with a 38 year old Ortiz.

 

[David_TheMan]

Mike's downfall was marrying robin givens , being on psychotic meds & the desirie washington fiasco sending him to jail

Okay

 

[David_TheMan]

Spinks and Holmes, what's your point? Again, wilder went life and death with a 38 year old Ortiz.

So "prime" Mike Tyson's best wins are two shot fighters who were brought out of retirement to fight him.
Where as Deontay just beat an undefeated and active Luis Ortiz who other fighters were actively ducking and you act like its bad that he was hurt and recovered and won? LOL

I swear some of you all let the hate blind you.

Fact is Ortiz win alone is better than any win your "prime" Tyson ever had

 

[krackdagawd]

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[Gravity]

So "prime" Mike Tyson's best wins are two shot fighters who were brought out of retirement to fight him.
Where as Deontay just beat an undefeated and active Luis Ortiz who other fighters were actively ducking and you act like its bad that he was hurt and recovered and won? LOL

I swear some of you all let the hate blind you.

Fact is Ortiz win alone is better than any win your "prime" Tyson ever had

At Spinks being “shot” as an undefeated champIon and Holmes being shot when he probably won 20 more fights after losing to mike. I haven’t seen the footage of the version of Larry that fought mike in years but I’d probably take a 38 year old Larry over this version of Ortiz who just got tested for the first time himself. Again, all Wilder has is the right hand and Ortiz couldn’t even neutralize that which tells me that he would’ve been tailor made for Larry. Larry didn’t have wilder’s power at 38 but he damn sure was more skilled/experienced.

at Ortiz being better than the Spinks and Holmes that Tyson fought when there’s nobody on his resume even worth mentioning. Last night was the first time that either Ortiz or Wilder had been in the ring with a true top 5 heavyweight contender in their careers.

 

[David_TheMan]

Yall tryna so hard to make it seem scientific. All that nikka did was throw a bunch a wild shyt and connect.

Props for the win but that nikka aint seeing us with that wild shyt.

LOL You try to talk boxing, and when people talk boxing with you, you stop trying to talk and start talking non-sense.
Hush up casual.

At Spinks being “shot” as an undefeated champIon and Holmes being shot when he probably won 20 more fights after losing to mike. I haven’t seen the footage of the version of Larry that fought mike in years but I’d probably take a 38 year old Larry over this version of Ortiz who just got tested for the first time himself. Again, all Wilder has is the right hand and Ortiz couldn’t even neutralize that which tells me that he would’ve been tailor made for Larry. Larry didn’t have wilder’s power at 38 but he damn sure was more skilled/experienced.

at Ortiz being better than the Spinks and Holmes that Tyson fought when there’s nobody on his resume even worth mentioning. Last night was the first time that either Ortiz or Wilder had been in the ring with a true top 5 heavyweight contender in their careers.

LOL

Spinks was shot and damn near retired, he had 1 fight in a 2 year range after beating Holmes and that was a big money fight for him with c00ney and he had bad knees. He was ready to retire but wanted one more payday and got it with Tyson. On top of that Spinks was a career Lt HW. You trying to hang a resume for a natural HW on beating a shot semi retired natural Lt Hw. SMH.

Larry against Tyson wasn't as good as he was later on against Mercer. Larry said he took the fight for the easy 3 mil, wasn't even in shape for it. He had announced his retirement and hadn't fought in 2 years, and this is what you want to say made "prime" Tyson an ATG. LOL

Ortiz is a better HW than Spinks ever was, Spinks is a ATG Lt. HW , not an ATG HW. And the version of Holmes that fought Tyson was out of shape and terrible. Yes its clear the Ortiz that fought last night was better than the Spinks and Holmes that Tyson fought.

 

[Gravity]

Ortiz is a better HW than Spinks ever was, Spinks is a ATG Lt. HW , not an ATG HW. And the version of Holmes that fought Tyson was out of shape and terrible. Yes its clear the Ortiz that fought last night was better than the Spinks and Holmes that Tyson fought.

Based on what? Who has Ortiz beat to qualify that statement? The Larry Holmes that Spinks beat is better than anybody Ortiz has even been in the ring with including wilder.

You’re just posting to see your words on the screen at this point. You’ve completely clouded the issue with your irrational wilder cheerleading. First you deny that wilder called Tyson out by saying that he could kick his ass at his best, now you made the prime Tyson-wilder argument into a resume comparison tryna discredit mike’s resume when wilder has just now fought someone considered a real challenge for the first time in damn near 40 career fights.

 

[David_TheMan]

Based on what? Who has Ortiz beat to qualify that statement? The Larry Holmes that Spinks beat is better than anybody Ortiz has even been in the ring with including wilder.

You’re just posting to see your words on the screen at this point. You’ve completely clouded the issue with your irrational wilder cheerleading. First you deny that wilder called Tyson out by saying that he could kick his ass at his best, now you made the prime Tyson-wilder argument into a resume comparison tryna discredit mike’s resume when wilder has just now fought someone considered a real challenge for the first time in damn near 40 career fights.

LOL
Trying to change the subject, and failing.
The question is not who Holmes are Spinks are as fighters, it who they were when Mike Tyson fought them.
Spinks was fighting for a check and was damn near retired and Holmes was retired and hadn't fought in 2 years. That is who Tyson fought. The Ortiz we saw last night was better than both of those fighters when Tyson fought them. He showed a greater will to win and fight than Spinks did, he showed better reflexes, head movement, punch selection, and power than Holmes did when he fought Tyson. This is a fact.

You can't even discuss boxing now, you scrambling trying to whine about me because you can't deny the fact that according to your own standard, the best names on "prime" Tyson's resume are two fighters one a HW ATG who had been in retirement for 2 years and the other a career lt HW who only had 1 fight in 2 years and had bad knees and semi-retired. LOL.

Deontay didn't call out Tyson. AGain he responded to Tyson talking shyt about him. That isn't calling him out, calling him out and saying Tyson should fight him today.
As for Tyson's resume, you are the one who was trying to big up Tyson's resume and diminish Wilder. Fact is, Tyson has one of the worst resumes of any HW who is talked about being great. That isn't opinion that is fact.

 

[seemorecizzy]

So "prime" Mike Tyson's best wins are two shot fighters who were brought out of retirement to fight him.
Where as Deontay just beat an undefeated and active Luis Ortiz who other fighters were actively ducking and you act like its bad that he was hurt and recovered and won? LOL

I swear some of you all let the hate blind you.

Fact is Ortiz win alone is better than any win your "prime" Tyson ever had

tyson would kill wilder son LMAO
you've gone too far

 

[Gravity]

LOL
Trying to change the subject, and failing.
The question is not who Holmes are Spinks are as fighters, it who they were when Mike Tyson fought them.
Spinks was fighting for a check and was damn near retired and Holmes was retired and hadn't fought in 2 years. That is who Tyson fought. The Ortiz we saw last night was better than both of those fighters when Tyson fought them. He showed a greater will to win and fight than Spinks did, he showed better reflexes, head movement, punch selection, and power than Holmes did when he fought Tyson. This is a fact.

You can't even discuss boxing now, you scrambling trying to whine about me because you can't deny the fact that according to your own standard, the best names on "prime" Tyson's resume are two fighters one a HW ATG who had been in retirement for 2 years and the other a career lt HW who only had 1 fight in 2 years and had bad knees and semi-retired. LOL.

Deontay didn't call out Tyson. AGain he responded to Tyson talking shyt about him. That isn't calling him out, calling him out and saying Tyson should fight him today.
As for Tyson's resume, you are the one who was trying to big up Tyson's resume and diminish Wilder. Fact is, Tyson has one of the worst resumes of any HW who is talked about being great. That isn't opinion that is fact.

Whatever you want to say about tyson’s resume, it’s still better than deontay’s current resume and that’s the point fakkit.

Wilder called out Tyson saying that he was better than he ever was and nobody but dikkriding clowns like you cosign that. Save the excuses for why he said that, the point is that he said it. No way wilder that was on the ring last night beats the best version that we saw of mike.

You're better off being in the IFLTV comment section with them brit cacs talking all that nonsense that your talking as they are on that same bullshyt like you.

fukk you and the bytch that birthed your bytchass.

 

[Black Lightning]

So "prime" Mike Tyson's best wins are two shot fighters who were brought out of retirement to fight him.
Where as Deontay just beat an undefeated and active Luis Ortiz who other fighters were actively ducking and you act like its bad that he was hurt and recovered and won? LOL

I swear some of you all let the hate blind you.

Fact is Ortiz win alone is better than any win your "prime" Tyson ever had

Facts.

 

[David_TheMan]

tyson would kill wilder son LMAO
you've gone too far

Tyson couldn't kill Buster Douglass, why should I think he would kill Wilder?
Didn't kill a natural cruiserweight in Holyfield either.
Didn't kill a natural HW with a jab and power like Lennox Lewis either.

I was just told on this thread that "prime" Tyson's best names were a natural Lt HW and a retired HW.

Prime Tyson would get his ass beat if those are the scalps he is bringing to the table.

Whatever you want to say about tyson’s resume, it’s still better than deontay’s current resume and that’s the point fakkit.

Wilder called out Tyson saying that he was better than he ever was and nobody but dikkriding clowns like you cosign that. Save the excuses for why he said that, the point is that he said it. No way wilder that was on the ring last night beats the best version that we saw of mike.fukk you and the bytch that birthed your bytchass.

Nah the two best names on "prime" Tyson's resume isn't as good as Stiverne, ARreola, or Ortiz. LOL

No Wilder didn't call out Tyson, he simply responded to Tyson hating on him.

The best version of "Tyson" was beating two shot old ass fighters who were paid to leave retirement.

 

[merklman]

Based on what? Who has Ortiz beat to qualify that statement? The Larry Holmes that Spinks beat is better than anybody Ortiz has even been in the ring with including wilder.

You’re just posting to see your words on the screen at this point. You’ve completely clouded the issue with your irrational wilder cheerleading. First you deny that wilder called Tyson out by saying that he could kick his ass at his best, now you made the prime Tyson-wilder argument into a resume comparison tryna discredit mike’s resume when wilder has just now fought someone considered a real challenge for the first time in damn near 40 career fights.

Don't you know Ortiz got more skill than ATG Wlad - to quantify it, Wlad got precisely 1/10 the skill of ortiz (Even though Ortiz got jack shyt to show for it )

Ortiz top a top 10 heavyweight of all time