Mike Francesa the Gawd

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I'm happy. As much as he can be a dikkhead he is still the most entertaining listen on sports radio period. Highly knowledgeable in most sports and he doesn't have some forced schtick like 98% of the sports talk show personalities doing it. He's the GOAT...whether nikkas like it or not. Good to see him back for what should be a VERY interesting year for the Yanks, Mets, Giants and even the Jets.

By the way...only thing I like about that Carlin trio is Bart's unapologetic real nikka views on racism in sports and his insider accounts as a former top athlete.
 
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Here’s doggie talking about Mike and then the Carlin incident


Not always going to get what you want.

Mike just felt like he was bigger than he really is to demand more. The problem with Mike is partly his age as well.

Bill Simmons was able to recover and restart his network because he was still in his 40's so over time he will likely make more on his own. Mike? Dude is in his mid 60s AND was on top in his field. Foolish to think he was going to get anything bigger/better.

Glad to see him back and will be tuning in :obama:
 

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He is wrong. Chances are Mike will be back for a few more years to scratch the last itch before really retiring.

I look at this similar to what happened with NBC and the tonight show. Jay Leno wanted to leave, Conan got the job and the ratings tanked. Leno missed it, NBC was pissed and boom Leno was back.

The REAL problem is how WFAN handled it initially. To replace THE POPE takes a LOT of planning and you have to get a rock solid team to replace him. Not what they pulled...it almost feels like they had NO IDEA what to do while knowing WAY in advance.
 

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He is wrong. Chances are Mike will be back for a few more years to scratch the last itch before really retiring.

I look at this similar to what happened with NBC and the tonight show. Jay Leno wanted to leave, Conan got the job and the ratings tanked. Leno missed it, NBC was pissed and boom Leno was back.

The REAL problem is how WFAN handled it initially. To replace THE POPE takes a LOT of planning and you have to get a rock solid team to replace him. Not what they pulled...it almost feels like they had NO IDEA what to do while knowing WAY in advance.
short of getting an established name, whoever took over that slot was destined to struggle directly following Mike. I think Chernoff understood that and decided to try something different.

word is Chernoff was willing to ride it out with the new crew but the decision to bring back Mike was from higher ups. getting him back on a discount was too good to pass up.
 

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He is wrong. Chances are Mike will be back for a few more years to scratch the last itch before really retiring.

I look at this similar to what happened with NBC and the tonight show. Jay Leno wanted to leave, Conan got the job and the ratings tanked. Leno missed it, NBC was pissed and boom Leno was back.

The REAL problem is how WFAN handled it initially. To replace THE POPE takes a LOT of planning and you have to get a rock solid team to replace him. Not what they pulled...it almost feels like they had NO IDEA what to do while knowing WAY in advance.
Also, whether WFAN wants to admit it or not, having someone co-signed by Mike woulda went a long way towards that audience giving the new crew a shot. With the exception of Joe and Evan (who weren't gonna take the job) and MAYBE Malusis (who has a morning show now), they needed to essentially grease the wheels for the next group. Nobody knew who it was. Mike wasn't approving or disapproving of whoever came in. CMB was NOT plan A. We already know Carlin doesn't fukk with Mike anymore. Even when it announced it was like :dahell:
 

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Also, whether WFAN wants to admit it or not, having someone co-signed by Mike woulda went a long way towards that audience giving the new crew a shot. With the exception of Joe and Evan (who weren't gonna take the job) and MAYBE Malusis (who has a morning show now), they needed to essentially grease the wheels for the next group. Nobody knew who it was. Mike wasn't approving or disapproving of whoever came in. CMB was NOT plan A. We already know Carlin doesn't fukk with Mike anymore. Even when it announced it was like :dahell:

I would throw JJ in that group but he'd probably need to be groomed a bit more to take over the role. In my eyes if you were going outside of WFAN the only correct choice to replace Mike was Max Kellerman but his ESPN contract would probably be excruciatingly tough to get him out of. How much would you have to pay him? And afternoon drive on WFAN would almost certainly be a step down career wise for him.
 

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I can’t tell you the last time I been so excited over radio drama. Must have been back when Star was on hot 97.

Esiason: Francesa's return to WFAN 'just looks pathetic'



Francesa’s return to WFAN “just looks pathetic,” Esiason says

Boomer Esiason, who had been WFAN’s most visible personality in the post-Mike Francesa era, weighed in first thing Wednesday morning on Francesa’s impending return to the station, saying "it just looks pathetic."

During a nearly half-hour opening on the topic, Esiason and morning co-host Gregg Giannotti said they understood the move from a business perspective but were concerned over the impact on Chris Carlin, Maggie Gray and Bart Scott, who will have diminished roles.

“Radio can be a real sewer pit, and there’s a lot of backstabbing and knife-throwing and all that other stuff that goes on,” Esiason said. “We try to stay above all that stuff, but unfortunately you can’t, and three people basically have gotten screwed.

“I don’t care how you put it, they have gotten screwed and they have gotten screwed by a guy who said he was never going to be on this radio station who decided to come back because of some conspiracy to keep him off the air. I have no idea what the hell that means.”

Francesa told Newsday on Tuesday he was returning in part because of an alleged effort by unnamed people at the station to keep him from coming back.

Esiason revealed additional details about the Francesa story, saying that he is planning an app that will include clips from the “Mike and the Mad Dog” days, that Francesa might be back on the air by Tuesday and that Entercom executives instructed Carlin, Gray and Scott to take the high road on the air, which they did.

“Yesterday was one of those days I will never forget,” said Giannotti, who started on Jan. 2, the same day as the afternoon team. “Personally, it made me feel a little uneasy the entire day.”

Esiason responded, “Better look over your shoulder.”



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Said Giannotti, “Yeah, the next thing you know I’ll be doing 4 a.m. to 6 a.m.”

Esiason ranked Tuesday’s bombshell below the day in September when his co-host, Craig Carton was arrested for securities and wire fraud, but it was up there.

“I’ve been here for now 10 ½ years and I’ve seen a lot of wacky crap go on,” he said. “It’s still not the most unique day that I’ve ever had here, I can tell you that, but it was really kind of a surreal day. It was a dysfunctional day. And that’s what radio stations are . . . Part of it is funny, part of it is dysfunctional.”

Esiason took over Francesa’s old office in January. He said he will not be moving out.

“Everybody’s having fun with it, but there’s human carnage on the side,” he said, “and the side of that is this diversity group that we had here and that we were so proud of -- a woman and an African-American and bringing back a guy who’s been a part of the station for a long time, our friend Chris Carlin, that this was going to be awesome, that this was going to be the greatest thing.

“We all knew they were stepping into big shoes and they would have big shoes to fill and that they would figure it out and somehow someway it would happen, and then all of a sudden, Mike decided to get an agent and the agent went to, I believe, somebody not in this building, somebody down in Philadelphia and started this whole dialogue.”

That was a reference to the agency CAA and to executives at Entercom, a company headquartered near Philadelphia that bought WFAN recently.


Esiason and Giannotti did acknowledge that Francesa’s presence will make the WFAN lineup stronger.

“It’s bizarre, it’s crazy,” Esiason said. “I think from a standpoint of the radio station it’s great. If he wants to come back he comes back. He was the No. 1 guy. He’s a guy who’s been here a long time and whatever he does he does it, and people seem to either like it or hate it but they listen to it, which is important. But the human toll is significant because basically three people here just got reduced roles.”

Said Giannotti, “Every day they walk in here they’re going to feel like, ‘wow, everybody looks at us like a failure’ and that’s just the perception of what it’s going to be, and that’s not fair.”

When Esiason said, “I would think that the first thing he should do is go up to the three of them and apologize,” longtime engineer Eddie Scozzare chimed in with, “And then I will go sprinkle salt where hell froze over.”

Said Esiason, “I will say this: It ain’t going to be comfortable around here. It will not be comfortable . . . They’re going to have to cross paths with a guy that basically is kicking them to the curb . . . It just looks pathetic, though. The whole thing.”
 

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This has nothing to do with anything I said. The demo for sports talk radio is the audience who calls in, because whether they’re 20 or 70, without callers you don’t have much of a show.

What point are you trying to make?

the point i was making was to the other poster whom insinuated baseball has to be by far the number 1 topic in sports media in this market

my 2 points were

1. mike kay adding peter to their show & the ratings nearly doubled, with peter having MLB as his 4th ranked among the 4 pro sports we follow

2. first take & undisputed are cleary the most revered sports shows nationally (there nyc ratings/followings are excellent) and we all know they cover about 90% of the NBA & NFL

:hubie:
we all done had this nyc sports - baseball beef for way too long even going back to SOHH
im not here to pursue you or anybody whom believes otherwise

i just drop’d 2 reciepts to prove my point
it is ..... what ..... it is
 
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