Mike D of Beastie Boys: 2Pacs Quest for Authenticity Killed Him

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He ain't tell no lies. And I respect Pac, love his work, but the way he moved sometimes was just... :what: And sadly, by doing that shyt he was doin' that night, it killed him. shyt he had no business gettin' into, because when it came time to retaliate, you know nikkas were gonna go after the standout of the bunch.

*cue "fukk that cac" posts because nikkas hate to acknowledge he got killed by jumpin' into gang business*
 

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He ain't tell no lies. And I respect Pac, love his work, but the way he moved sometimes was just... :what: And sadly, by doing that shyt he was doin' that night, it killed him. shyt he had no business gettin' into, because when it came time to retaliate, you know nikkas were gonna go after the standout of the bunch.

*cue "fukk that cac" posts because nikkas hate to acknowledge he got killed by jumpin' into gang business*
There are fools who still think the government killed him, or that he was destined to die early. He said himself he was going to die early...Well of course you will if you're living reckless. Pac got a second chance after surviving getting shot and getting out of jail. But instead of building positively he wanted to start wars and get into gangbangin. There were traces of the old Pac in his Deathrow days, but he honestly brought a whole lot of negative energy to himself and hip-hop. Even his homegirl Jada wasn't on speaking terms with him at the time he got shot in Vegas because of how he was acting
 

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I wish I could locate the article, and I can't even remember who printed it, be it the Source, or XXL. The article interviewed one of the Hughes brothers, and I believe it was related to Pac trying out for the Menace flick. One of the brothers stated there was a part where Pac had to punch someone and he said it was obvious that he wasn't that dude. Like the punch was thrown by someone who wasn't used to throwing their hands. That said, it goes without saying that his actions were wreckless to say the least. I mean, we laugh and clown all the early mid-life crisis Bloods in the industry, cliqueing up in their twenties and going out of their way to let audiences know that they're affiliated. When you think about it, them doing such isn't anything new as Pac did it first. Sad when you think about it. Reminds me of an old Bible verse, Ecclesiastes 9:4-5, "a live dog is better than a dead lion."


Regardless, RIP to that man. We lost a great voice, and one can't help but wonder how powerful his voice and impact would have been had he lived long enough to mature.
 

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pac wasnt real

y do ppl think he was?


How many more ppl r gonna come out and say that he's fake till u pac stans understand dude was a fraud
how is he a fraud tho?

Cuz he wasn't bangin' at 15?

I ain't heard one story yet bout nikkaz punkin' tupac, besides the jail shyt which was only a rumor anyway

What u nikkaz don't understand is that u dont have to be a thug 24/7 since u was born to be real... Pac was into arts since he was a child but that don't make him no bytch or a fraud
 

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I wish I could locate the article, and I can't even remember who printed it, be it the Source, or XXL. The article interviewed one of the Hughes brothers, and I believe it was related to Pac trying out for the Menace flick. One of the brothers stated there was a part where Pac had to punch someone and he said it was obvious that he wasn't that dude. Like the punch was thrown by someone who wasn't used to throwing their hands.

http://rapradar.com/2009/12/15/hughes-brothers-talk-tpac-altercation/
“THE BIGGEST MISNOMER IS THAT ME AND TUPAC GOT INTO ANY FIGHT. IT WAS ME AND 12 CRIPS THAT HE GOT TO JUMP ME. HE DIDN’T DO shyt,” ALLEN CLAIMS. “TUPAC DIDN’T LAY A HAND ON ME. I HAD MY HANDS ON HIM. BUT THERE WAS NOT A PHYSICAL FIGHT BETWEEN ME AND TUPAC. IT WAS A PHYSICAL FIGHT BETWEEN ME AND 12 GANGBANGERS. I BELIEVE THEY ARE CALLED THE ROLLING 40S AND THEY ROLLED ME UP PRETTY GOOD.


:yeshrug: And he still got that work so what is he saying.

I am by no means a Pac stan or a fanatic, but these people still telling their "Pac wasn't real" stories are kinda wack IMO. Like the fact that he he went to art school and was polite and couldn't throw a punch makes him a fake gangster...ok. But the fact that he rolled with plenty of gangsters and WHOOPED YOUR ASS means...nothing? Let him live...
 
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:yeshrug: And he still got that work so what is he saying.

I am by no means a Pac stan or a fanatic, but these people still telling their "Pac wasn't real" stories are kinda wack IMO. Like the fact that he he went to art school and was polite and couldn't throw a punch makes him a fake gangster...ok. But the fact that he rolled with plenty of gangsters and WHOOPED YOUR ASS means...nothing? Let him live...

Yeah Hughes only said "Pac didn't do shyt to me" and "Pac couldn't punch" long after Pac's death. I don't deny that Crips also beat him up, but Hughes didn't deny that Pac put hands on him back when it actually happened: http://thesource.com/2010/06/16/tupachellraiser/

^ There's some good stuff there. Some quotes:

L’il bytch? nikka you wasn’t saying that shyt when I was whoopin’ yo ass all up and down the set of your video!”

“You and about 12 of your nikkas,” retorts Allen

The link also talks about an incident where Pac chased away 5 Crips at a gas station with scissors after they got into a confrontation, and about the time Pac shot those off-duty gun-wielding drunk cops for harassing a black man :pachaha:.
 
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how is he a fraud tho?

Cuz he wasn't bangin' at 15?

I ain't heard one story yet bout nikkaz punkin' tupac, besides the jail shyt which was only a rumor anyway

What u nikkaz don't understand is that u dont have to be a thug 24/7 since u was born to be real... Pac was into arts since he was a child but that don't make him no bytch or a fraud
i wouldnt call him a fraud. i would say he got caught up in things that he had no business and its unfortunate that he didnt have a chance to come back from that
 

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The link also talks about an incident where Pac chased away 5 Crips at a gas station with scissors after they got into a confrontation, and about the time Pac shot those off-duty gun-wielding drunk cops for harassing a black man :pachaha:.

Doesn't matter. He didn't have true gangster motives so he was a fraud. I'm a half Italian 45 year old movie director and I'm tougher than Pac ever was...
 
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