Mike Colter as luke cage is TRASH
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Coppermouth was good though. Overall show is decent.
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
He cried too much about his past for my taste
KravenMorehead™
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Agreed.
Lookswise he's got the part. But he lacks the cadence. And the character's "voice"
But that's all of em pretty much. Minus stick a bit.
Lookswise he's got the part. But he lacks the cadence. And the character's "voice"
But that's all of em pretty much. Minus stick a bit.
I heard in the comics they pretty much made Cage a simp for JJ... is this true?? 
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In the last Powerman and Iron Fist book, he was acting a lil funny about teaming back up with Danny cause of Jessica. But it was more about their baby than anything.I heard in the comics they pretty much made Cage a simp for JJ... is this true??
Hes just a regular cat with baby mama shyt going on honestly.
KravenMorehead™
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yea she be lowkey sonnin dude. I used to complain about that.I heard in the comics they pretty much made Cage a simp for JJ... is this true??
Could Michael Jai White have played the role?
2manyFCKNrappers
mentally i measure kilos
Yes. I've been meaning to make this thread. He is terrible for this part. No personality. Corny lines he just sucks all around.
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
Without a doubt, hed be better than colter
KravenMorehead™
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You know the thing about Netflix marvel?
And this is gonna sound extra, but fukk it here goes a long ass post...
They have a "dark, gritty ooh!!!!!" format that they're filtering the universe through that doesn't lend itself to every character, or every ASPECT of every character. It's like what Christopher Nolan's sensibilities did to the DCEU initially with Man of Steel etc. There's people that've been getting money through comic books for a minute that aren't really fans of the genre or percieve it as an adult art form, so they try to reinvent the wheel and it create tonal shifts in one aspect that don't jive with another aspect.
I'll explain. Take the daredevil series for instance. This was the first one where they said they wanted it to feel like "the wire." Which is cool. He has very tragic storylines, and he's got arcs with that kinda dirty urban feel. The bendis/maleev run, and the brubaker run, among a few others. Many parts of the character lend itself to this approach. But there's also parts of the character that do not. The hand aren't petty thieves whose crib you can just storm your way to with no plan and start shyt, unless you know what you're doing or you got it like that on some avengers shyt, you will get fukkED UP. These are a heirarchy of ninja goons who have their hands in magic and alot of other shyt that if a regular nikka gets on their radar, they're already dead. In the comics they roll up in Matts crib and get the drop on him on the regular, in large numbers. There's an element of fantasy to the hand that has to be handled right or it'll fall flat. And the showrunners and marvel netflix runners don't seem to catch that for some reason.
I have that same issue with the kingpin's portrayal. There's an overall grand sense of intimidation he's supposed to possess whenever he's in the room that he's lacking. I'm not talking about the horrifying shyt he does in the show, cause they could write that for any character. I mean an "oh shyt that's the kingpin" vibe that as a comicbook readin ass nikka you catch when he shows up.
here's what I mean with the kingpin thing. The camera angles and shots are supposed to make him feel like a big dude that kills nikkas that look at him wrong with his bare hands but with the wide angle shot in this scene he feels like on of those villains you think you could take on yourself. Dude looks like some fat fukk whose ass you could whoop and that's a fail:
That wide angle shot was straight asscheeks. Lmao.
You can have a sense of wonderment in the music, cinematography, and overall design without sacrificing the grit and I think the people running this netflix shyt are missing that, and it's affecting the shows. Look at supernatural for instance. sam and dean stay dealing with omega level shyt but it never keeps them from feeling like street level guys. I don't think majority of these cats running comic book live action shows and movies understand that that's feasible. It's like they're either one way or they're the other way. Or a movie comes out that's a hit and then they want they're next movie to swagger jack that one. Or they think that just because a character is funny, their world and therefore their movie should be funny, or because a character is dark, their movie should be dark, and that's not automatically the case. Movies are like people, you can code switch effortlessly to accomodate the emotional journey of the character. It doesn't have to be a rigid template.
Another thing is the dialogue vs characterization. If you listen to how the lines are being delivered you can tell whoever writes the scripts for these shows is writing for the comic book versions of these characters. But the Actors are being given alot of legroom on how to interpret the characters so there's a lot of remixing going on, so when they recite the lines of the character, the don't take or don't sound believable, and it takes you out of the moment as a viewer. But I realized that if you listen to all the dialogue of every show, and ignore how the lines are being delivered facial expression and tone of voice-wise, and just imagine that you're reading the shows as a comicbook with the lines being said by the comic book versions of themselves? You'll realise these shows actually have decent ass fukkin scripts. Majority of the Green Lantern movie caught an L for this same reason.
They need to either:
1) Make the characterization a perfect representation of the comics, and pick actors who can execute that exactly,
or
2) Write the shows according to the netflix universe and what they're letting the actors do with the character, so it feels right.
cause that discrepancy is creating shows where the satisfaction is directly related to either a disconnect from, or blind love for the source material, and that's a fail.
Personally I could take it or leave it, I'm too old to give a fukk either way... but imo these flaws are the source of the problem.
They have a "dark, gritty ooh!!!!!" format that they're filtering the universe through that doesn't lend itself to every character, or every ASPECT of every character. It's like what Christopher Nolan's sensibilities did to the DCEU initially with Man of Steel etc. There's people that've been getting money through comic books for a minute that aren't really fans of the genre or percieve it as an adult art form, so they try to reinvent the wheel and it create tonal shifts in one aspect that don't jive with another aspect.
I'll explain. Take the daredevil series for instance. This was the first one where they said they wanted it to feel like "the wire." Which is cool. He has very tragic storylines, and he's got arcs with that kinda dirty urban feel. The bendis/maleev run, and the brubaker run, among a few others. Many parts of the character lend itself to this approach. But there's also parts of the character that do not. The hand aren't petty thieves whose crib you can just storm your way to with no plan and start shyt, unless you know what you're doing or you got it like that on some avengers shyt, you will get fukkED UP. These are a heirarchy of ninja goons who have their hands in magic and alot of other shyt that if a regular nikka gets on their radar, they're already dead. In the comics they roll up in Matts crib and get the drop on him on the regular, in large numbers. There's an element of fantasy to the hand that has to be handled right or it'll fall flat. And the showrunners and marvel netflix runners don't seem to catch that for some reason.
I have that same issue with the kingpin's portrayal. There's an overall grand sense of intimidation he's supposed to possess whenever he's in the room that he's lacking. I'm not talking about the horrifying shyt he does in the show, cause they could write that for any character. I mean an "oh shyt that's the kingpin" vibe that as a comicbook readin ass nikka you catch when he shows up.
here's what I mean with the kingpin thing. The camera angles and shots are supposed to make him feel like a big dude that kills nikkas that look at him wrong with his bare hands but with the wide angle shot in this scene he feels like on of those villains you think you could take on yourself. Dude looks like some fat fukk whose ass you could whoop and that's a fail:
That wide angle shot was straight asscheeks. Lmao.
You can have a sense of wonderment in the music, cinematography, and overall design without sacrificing the grit and I think the people running this netflix shyt are missing that, and it's affecting the shows. Look at supernatural for instance. sam and dean stay dealing with omega level shyt but it never keeps them from feeling like street level guys. I don't think majority of these cats running comic book live action shows and movies understand that that's feasible. It's like they're either one way or they're the other way. Or a movie comes out that's a hit and then they want they're next movie to swagger jack that one. Or they think that just because a character is funny, their world and therefore their movie should be funny, or because a character is dark, their movie should be dark, and that's not automatically the case. Movies are like people, you can code switch effortlessly to accomodate the emotional journey of the character. It doesn't have to be a rigid template.
Another thing is the dialogue vs characterization. If you listen to how the lines are being delivered you can tell whoever writes the scripts for these shows is writing for the comic book versions of these characters. But the Actors are being given alot of legroom on how to interpret the characters so there's a lot of remixing going on, so when they recite the lines of the character, the don't take or don't sound believable, and it takes you out of the moment as a viewer. But I realized that if you listen to all the dialogue of every show, and ignore how the lines are being delivered facial expression and tone of voice-wise, and just imagine that you're reading the shows as a comicbook with the lines being said by the comic book versions of themselves? You'll realise these shows actually have decent ass fukkin scripts. Majority of the Green Lantern movie caught an L for this same reason.
They need to either:
1) Make the characterization a perfect representation of the comics, and pick actors who can execute that exactly,
or
2) Write the shows according to the netflix universe and what they're letting the actors do with the character, so it feels right.
cause that discrepancy is creating shows where the satisfaction is directly related to either a disconnect from, or blind love for the source material, and that's a fail.
Personally I could take it or leave it, I'm too old to give a fukk either way... but imo these flaws are the source of the problem.
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Lol Michael Jai white and Snipes are the number one choice for every black superhero for y'all nikkaz....give it up man
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I was also thinking Defenders felt quite Angelish as in Joss Whedon.
But it definetly didnt match uo to Season 4 of Angel. And yeah agreed on making the Hand more regular.
They need to make their endings more strong.