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My understanding is that they all are. I didn't read anything saying that some were while others weren't.I meant are the witnesses to "Brown had his hands up" going to testify before the grand jury?
My understanding is that they all are. I didn't read anything saying that some were while others weren't.I meant are the witnesses to "Brown had his hands up" going to testify before the grand jury?
Well not like it makes a difference, he's not getting indicted anywayMy understanding is that they all are. I didn't read anything saying that some were while others weren't.
But the fact that he may not get indicted is based on that very testimony. Personally, I think that if he isn't indicted, then he pretty much free in clear based on the truth...to get an indictment on a homicide...your case doesn't have to lock tight...like the Treyvon martin Case...you can put together a pretty loose ended argument for it.Well not like it makes a difference, he's not getting indicted anyway
I wasn't saying the case had to be locked tight but I never thought he was going to get indicted in the first place regardless of eye witness accounts and such.But the fact that he may not get indicted is based on that very testimony. Personally, I think that if he isn't indicted, then he pretty much free in clear based on the truth...to get an indictment on a homicide...your case doesn't have to lock tight...like the Treyvon martin Case...you can put together a pretty loose ended argument for it.
Really? I did...I was sure of it...and I'm still not entirely convinced that he won't. I mean a homicide...the accusation that someone caused a death (intentionally or unintentionally) is enough to suggest that charges be brought up. The Grand Jury has a slew of charges that they can bring up...Murder 1, Murder 2, Voluntary Manslaughter, Involuntary manslaughter, reckless endangerment etc etc....their case must be VERY weak if they can't get that to fit in at least with one of the last two or three.I wasn't saying the case had to be locked tight but I never thought he was going to get indicted in the first place regardless of eye witness accounts and such.
We'll see hopefully they get him with involuntary manslaughter at the least but if witnesses are corroborating his story can't they just say he was using self defense?Really? I did...I was sure of it...and I'm still not entirely convinced that he won't. I mean a homicide...the accusation that someone caused a death (intentionally or unintentionally) is enough to suggest that charges be brought up. The Grand Jury has a slew of charges that they can bring up...Murder 1, Murder 2, Voluntary Manslaughter, Involuntary manslaughter....the case must be very weak if they can't get that to fit in at least with one of the last two.
I'm not an attorney, but my guess is that "self defense" is based on the sequence of events that led the officer to believe that he had to use lethal force to protect himself from serious physical injury or death. In otherwrods, a cop can't just walk up to you...pummel you with punches...then when you fight back...and catch him with a few...he then he proceeds to shoot you causing your death....That can't be used as "self defense"...it won't hold up in court and he won't be indemnified by his police agency.We'll see hopefully they get him with involuntary manslaughter at the least but if witnesses are corroborating his story can't they just say he was using self defense?
I know all that, I'm saying if both he and witnesses are claiming Brown MMA punched him, ran away, then turned back around and rushed him like Nappa from DBZ isn't that grounds to say "self defense."I'm not an attorney, but my guess is that "self defense" is based on the sequence of events that led the officer to believe that he had to use lethal force to protect himself from serious physical injury or death. In otherwrods, a cop can't just walk up to you...pummel you with punches...then when you fight back...and catch him with a few...and then he proceeds to shoot you causing your death...that can't be used as "self defense"...it won't hold up in court and he won't be indemnified by his police agency.
IMPO...if the Feds, and the State can't find a single charge to pin him or ATLEAST suggest that he should be tried for one--then all likelyhood points to him pretty much telling the truth.
I would think so.I know all that, I'm saying if both he and witnesses are claiming Brown MMA punched him, ran away, then turned back around and rushed him like Nappa from DBZ isn't that grounds to say "self defense."
Not everyone can be Rosa Parks, breh. shyt, look at Trayvon. This kid was just walking home with some candy and cacs STILL said he deserved to die. I'll never forget that verdict, either, because the next day was a Sunday, and I tutor my 14-18s after Mass. Imagine a solid body of black and brown kids in hoodies just daring me to tell them to take their hoods off. (I did, and they did, but I took a pic of them all together first.) They were so angry, and rightly so, and what could I say in a house of God? I don't think I said much of anything. I let them do 95% of the talking.
From what I can tell, you're one of the few who are actually looking at the reality of the situation.
I'm about 75% sure that the cop's story is correct and that his actions were justified, however I am somewhat skeptical as to whether he was in reasonable fear of his life. It's very difficult to question something that personal. And I'm not entirely sure that this could have ended peacefully as some are suggesting.
But based on the evidence, I don't think he was a "racist" per se. I think "agitators" are using that as a scapegoat to endorse disorder.
I'm not an attorney, but my guess is that "self defense" is based on the sequence of events that led the officer to believe that he had to use lethal force to protect himself from serious physical injury or death. In otherwrods, a cop can't just walk up to you...pummel you with punches...then when you fight back...and catch him with a few...he then he proceeds to shoot you causing your death....That can't be used as "self defense"...it won't hold up in court and he won't be indemnified by his police agency.
IMPO...if the Feds, and the State can't find a single charge to pin him or ATLEAST suggest that he should be tried for one--then all likelihood points to him pretty much telling the truth.
The reality is...some people are deathly afraid of that type of outcome because they are far too emotionally invested in this.