Mike Brown Grand Jury decision thread. DECISION: NO CHARGES AGAINST DARREN WILSON!!

[HoloGraphic]

Man fck peace....Peace ain't did shyt for Black folks...........

 

[Arishok]

From what I can tell, you're one of the few who are actually looking at the reality of the situation.

I'm about 75% sure that the cop's story is correct and that his actions were justified, however I am somewhat skeptical as to whether he was in reasonable fear of his life. It's very difficult to question something that personal. And I'm not entirely sure that this could have ended peacefully as some are suggesting.

But based on the evidence, I don't think he was a "racist" per se. I think "agitators" are using that as a scapegoat to endorse disorder.

What makes you THAT sure? Buddy doesn't have any witnesses corroborating with his story unless you want to add the radio call with "Josie". (which wouldn't be used in court).

 

[filial_piety]

What makes you THAT sure? Buddy doesn't have any witnesses corroborating with his story unless you want to add the radio call with "Josie". (which wouldn't be used in court).

My understanding is that the description came over the radio...he informed the Central Dispatcher of where he was, and that he had two men that fit the description, and that he needed back up. ALL of that is recorded and time stamped. If none of this is found in the recordings....then it isn't true....BUT if it is...then we have reason to believe that his story is in fact adding up and that he had reason to confront them.

 

[Arris]

According to who? Reports have shown that during the initial contact, it's true, Wilson wasn't aware of the robbery, however seconds later, it was reported that the description came over from the Central dispatcher of the assailants, and he discovered that they matched the profile. That's when he allegedly put his vehicle into reverse and confronted them a second time.

What happened after that is difficult to ascertain.

But in regards his actual knowledge of the robbery, that can be determined by the Central Dispatcher's records of their contact with the officer.

the police have changed the story multiple times when it has been convenient

 

[Arishok]

My understanding is that the description came over the radio...he informed the Central Dispatcher of where he was, and that he had two men that fit the description, and that he needed back up. ALL of that is recorded and time stamped. If none of this is found in the recordings....then it isn't true....BUT if it is...then we have reason to believe that his story is in fact adding up and that he had reason to confront them.

My entire problem with this case has to do with the fact that Wilson shot Brown dead while his hands were in the air, surrendering. I thought you were saying you believed Wilson's story about Brown charging him.

 

[filial_piety]

My entire problem with this case has to do with the fact that Wilson shot Brown dead while his hands were in the air, surrendering. I thought you were saying you believed Wilson's story about Brown charging him.

OK, that's a separate issue tho....people are acting as if MB were targeted...if we analyze this piece by piece, we can break down the probability of the situation. But thus far, I'm convinced he had a reason to confront them....others are misinformed of the facts...denying that the Cop had ever had any knowledge of the robbery...when that;'s simply not true...

Now as far as his hands being up...I'm not sure...there's mixed information about it. His friend (the assailant) claims that they were...A few other witnesses said that they weren't...and a few say that they were....the construction workers are murky at best...one (from my recollection) said that he (MB) was running and was chased by the Cop and shot in the back...HOWEVER forensic evidence disproves that, another said he saw them up and he has no reason to lie.... But then you have others witnesses saying that MB went for the gun...

Like I said, it's difficult to determine just exactly what happened.

 

[Arishok]

OK, that's a separate issue tho....people are acting as if MB were targeted...if we analyze this piece by piece, we can break down the probability of the situation. But thus far, I'm convinced he had a reason to confront them....others are misinformed of the facts...denying that the Cop had ever had any knowledge of the robbery...when that;'s simply not true...

Now as far as his hands being up...I'm not sure...there's mixed information about it. His friend (the assailant) claims that they were...A few other witnesses said that they weren't...and a few say that they were....the construction workers are murky at best...one (from my recollection) said that he (MB) was running and was chased by the Cop and shot in the back...HOWEVER forensic evidence disproves that, another said he saw them up and he has no reason to lie.... But then you have others witnesses saying that MB went for the gun...

Like I said, it's difficult to determine just exactly what happened.

I never heard ANY witnesses corroborate the cop's story? Sources on that?

Also with the witness who said he was shot in the back, she never actually said that. I remember she said Brown as if he was shot in the back and the forensic evidence shows the shot to the forearm could have been the shot she described although it's inconclusive.

And why do you feel the construction workers are murky?

 

[filial_piety]

I never heard ANY witnesses corroborate the cop's story? Sources on that?

Also with the witness who said he was shot in the back, she never actually said that. I remember she said Brown as if he was shot in the back and the forensic evidence shows the shot to the forearm could have been the shot she described although it's inconclusive.

And why do you feel the construction workers are murky?

Really? Several stories have either witnesses saying that his hands were either up, or that they weren't. Some say MB moved towards DW in a "threatening" manner, others say he "stumbled." And in reference to being shot in the back, I'm referring to the account of the construction workers.

 

[Arishok]

Really? Several stories have either witnesses saying that his hands were either up, or that they weren't. Some say MB moved towards DW in a "threatening" manner, others say he "stumbled." And in reference to being shot in the back, I'm referring to the account of the construction workers.

Naw I've honestly only heard all the witnesses come forward and corroborate the fact that Brown had his hands in the air.



And I've never heard the construction workers saying he was shot in the back, just the fact that his hands were up. There was a chick that said she thought he was shot in the back though.

 

[filial_piety]

Naw I've honestly only heard all the witnesses come forward and corroborate the fact that Brown had his hands in the air.



And I've never heard the construction workers saying he was shot in the back, just the fact that his hands were up. There was a chick that said she thought he was shot in the back though.

Well, they aren't going to come forward just YET for their own protection. I believe that their testimony is being made in anonymity for the Grand Jury Just about every source states that some witnesses saw MB with his hands up, and there are other witnesses who didn't see that. Supposedly there are several black witnesses that have corroborated Wilson's story who are testifying to what they observed.

And my mistake on the construction workers...one of them said that MB was running and was shot AT, but not necessarily shot in the back.

 

[Arishok]

Well, they aren't going to come forward just YET for their own protection. I believe that their testimony is being made in anonymity for the Grand Jury Just about every source states that some witnesses saw MB with his hands up, and there are other witnesses who didn't see that. Supposedly there are several black witnesses that have corroborated Wilson's story who are testifying to what they observed.

And my mistake on the construction workers...one of them said that MB was running and was shot AT, but not necessarily shot in the back.

Seems odd that there are witness to corroborate Wilson's story but they're being kept anonymous while the witnesses to Brown's story are all over the media.

Do you know if any of Brown's witnesses will go before the grand jury? I heard they weren't talking to any witnesses just the prosecution, Wilson himself, and the family pathologist.

 

[AAKing23]

Black people stay strong and resilient, don't flip when they expect us to, wait and plot for this shyt

 

[filial_piety]

Seems odd that there are witness to corroborate Wilson's story but they're being kept anonymous while the witnesses to Brown's story are all over the media.

Do you know if any of Brown's witnesses will go before the grand jury? I heard they weren't talking to any witnesses just the prosecution, Wilson himself, and the family pathologist.

Hey it's a free country....but it's been noted that witnesses that corroborate Wilson's story are testifying in anonymity, for their own protection. I can't say that I blame them given the climate of hostility. These accounts, along with the forensic evidence and the consistency of his (Wilson's) account, all in collaboration are largely why there's a good chance that he will not be indicted. I personally don't believe that "race" has anything to do with it....it's the facts and that's all that there is to go by.

But from what I've read the witnesses are testifying

" Sources told The Washington Post that seven or eight black witnesses gave testimony before the grand jury that was "consistent" with Wilson's account, but that none have spoken out publicly about what they witnessed because they fear for their safety"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/michael-brown-shooting_n_6030220.html

 

[CurrencyChase]

when is the announcement?

 

[Arishok]

Hey it's a free country....but it's been noted that witnesses that corroborate Wilson's story are testifying in anonymity, for their own protection. I can't say that I blame them given the climate of hostility. These accounts, along with the forensic evidence and the consistency of his accounts, collaboratively are largely why there's a good chance that he will not be indicted. I personally don't believe that "race" has anything to do with it....it's the facts and that's all that there is to go by.

But from what I've read in the witnesses are testifying

" Sources told The Washington Post that seven or eight black witnesses gave testimony before the grand jury that was "consistent" with Wilson's account, but that none have spoken out publicly about what they witnessed because they fear for their safety"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/michael-brown-shooting_n_6030220.html

I meant are the witnesses to "Brown had his hands up" going to testify before the grand jury?