Midnight Suns (Marvel X-com Game) December 2nd

[42 Monks]

So where’s the challenge in the game if there’s no cover system and not everyone has ranged attacks? I feel like the only other way you can make the game is like ff tactics (and actual role playing games) and I dont think that works for marvel characters

For example, if im Ironman whats to stop me from just lightin up the entire arena with my multi-rocket move every turn? I’m trying to think how other way they could make a turn based tactics game with characters that have such a huge scope of powers

im not gonna get speculative on what ifs between characters pre-release. im still getting this because i trust jake solomon - the guy who legit resurrected xcom and made it the standard for strategy games the past 10 years lol.

the fact is card based games are a thing because they're easier to design. you push the decision-making back from the actual action to before the encounters start. and you're tying equipment directly to those *potential* actions that may be available as well. fukk a cooldown or resource cost, its just not even there to use.

its inherently limiting on the player. and most players hate it.




plus trying to scale anything to marvel/dc/anime/etc power levels is a challenge... but the amount of people actually hung up on that bit is non-existent. the people who will immediately bush card games though? ijs

 

[rdj]

im not gonna get speculative on what ifs between characters pre-release. im still getting this because i trust jake solomon - the guy who legit resurrected xcom and made it the standard for strategy games the past 10 years lol.

the fact is card based games are a thing because they're easier to design. you push the decision-making back from the actual action to before the encounters start. and you're tying equipment directly to those *potential* actions that may be available as well. fukk a cooldown or resource cost, its just not even there to use.

its inherently limiting on the player. and most players hate it.




plus trying to scale anything to marvel/dc/anime/etc power levels is a challenge... but the amount of people actually hung up on that bit is non-existent. the people who will immediately bush card games though? ijs

Most players didn't even get that far in the thinking process when this game got announced. They heard cards and went me no want card me want mash buttons like spidey game

 

[42 Monks]

Most players didn't even get that far in the thinking process when this game got announced. They heard cards and went me no want card me want mash buttons like spidey game

based on what? lol

even here ppl were okay with a tactics game. others were willing to give it a shot. the info about it being a card game based thing is when everything deflated

let me put it like this. you're moving through rooms, get to the objective, and you go from down bad to worse all of a sudden because.....

the boss is stronger than you thought
you didn't anticipate a new environmental mechanic
you wasted your resources too early in the mission
your fukking cards didn't come up multiple rounds in a row

its enough to push you away from the concept entirely

that's the issue with card based games and especially card based games dropped into typical free movement tactics games. if anyone can 'solve' it, its the guy who made xcom. but even then, it'll be him struggling against marvel gaming at the same time

 

[EarlyEarly]

Game looks fun. Interested to see how high the difficulty can get.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

@42 Monks let us not squabble and enjoy this masterpiece


Look at it, it’s beautiful

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

just saw it’s getting delayed …..this is one of my more anticipated games I wanted, i thought the card aspect was gonna freshen things up for me. And now there’s no release date

 

[The Mad Titan]

I know trash when I see it

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

god dammit

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

wow last gen launching later than the current gen versions. They need to just drop last gen in 2023

 

[The_Dread_Dormammu]

Damn wasn’t this shyt originally supposed to be out in March?

 

[Primetime]

Delay sucks. I’m open to the card system, tho the real appeal for me is if it can be a fun strategy game like FFTactics was.

Roster-wise tho… if they’re gonna throw in Ironman, Cap America, Cap Marvel, and Spider-Man into a “midnight suns” game, they might as well have included Black Panther.

Tired of dude being omitted from (starting) rosters and being regulated to DLC status.

 

[42 Monks]

lol imagine that