used games did this. how could y'all forget so soon
Microsoft is killing the Physical Gaming market
- Thread starter Jonah
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Y'all dudes wild, pick and choose when to be technical I guess, because in another thread y'all wanted to be all technical about "New Ip's"
You don't "own" any..well most of those games you have... you own the disc that has a license on it in order to play.
Now if you're lucky, for "preservation" sake, you'll have a game on disc that basically runs well with no need for updates or the Internet.
So in 20 years if you got a old PS5 a bunch of physical games and you want to fire it up and play the cyberpunk you love and remember... instead of needing the Internet, patches or the DLC hopefully you can just pop in the disc and play the game like you remember.... except you won't be able to experience any of that without the Internet or some GOTY edition with everything on Disc all updated
Anyway carry on, y'all got it you "own" the games.
You don't "own" any..well most of those games you have... you own the disc that has a license on it in order to play.
Now if you're lucky, for "preservation" sake, you'll have a game on disc that basically runs well with no need for updates or the Internet.
So in 20 years if you got a old PS5 a bunch of physical games and you want to fire it up and play the cyberpunk you love and remember... instead of needing the Internet, patches or the DLC hopefully you can just pop in the disc and play the game like you remember.... except you won't be able to experience any of that without the Internet or some GOTY edition with everything on Disc all updated
Anyway carry on, y'all got it you "own" the games.
Jonah
XBOT Suicide Prevention Squad
Doesn't matter, It is preserved regardless of how it plays due to being on a physical disc.
Then that becomes a legality issue, owning the games allows you to dump your own copy, which can then be played legally on an emulator.
Microsoft is the one who pushed "Game Pass" as being the "next big thing", they were also pushing streaming and "always online". Prior to that, people were fine with buying disc based gamesThe consumer is killing physical games. Same way it happened in music and movies.
I still buy physical movies and games but a lot of ppl don’t.
Everything that's on the Internet is preserved if you really really want it, especially games that release on PC.
Now games that are console only, those are definitely more at risk these days
MoshpitMazi
Moshpit Gxng/ Anti Fash
The consumers dont care.
i dont care about owning physical copies myself havent went that route since like AC2.
i dont care about owning physical copies myself havent went that route since like AC2.
modifying your console also becomes a legality issue
you own a piece of plastic, with data on it. you are licensed to only use that data in very specific ways. deviating from that "becomes a legality issue"
Jonah
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everything on the internet is not preserved, as seen with situations like this.
MegaUpload Users Look Into Suing U.S. Over Lost Files
When the U.S. Department of Justice shut down MegaUpload last week, users storing files legally on the site became collateral damage. Now, some of them want to sue.
www.pcworld.com
File sharing service Zippyshare is shutting down - gHacks Tech News
Zippyshare is shutting down this month after 16 years. The file sharing service says ad blockers, and rising server costs were to blame.
www.ghacks.net
Rapidshare Becomes The Latest P2P Giant To Close Voluntarily
Rapidshare will close down on March 31, with the site warning users to backup their files before it's too late.
www.ibtimes.com
File-Hosting Icon AnonFiles Throws in the Towel, Domain For Sale * TorrentFreak
File-hosting site AnonFiles.com has thrown in the towel. The site's operators cite massive abuse by uploaders as a prime reason.
torrentfreak.com
EU Upload Filters Mark the End For File-Sharing Site Hellspy * TorrentFreak
Facing new copyright law requirements that it cannot meet, Czech file-sharing service Hellspy will shut down its service next month.
torrentfreak.com
these are examples of file hosting sites people used shutting down, resulting in the loss of untold amounts of files.
You also have the Internet Archive, one of the biggest file storage sites being targeted in a co-ordinated effort to shut it down.
Big Four publishers move to crush the Internet Archive
Digital lending is only fine when we do it
www.theregister.com
Internet Archive’s legal woes mount as record labels sue for $400M
The Internet Archive also reached a confidential settlement with book publishers.
arstechnica.com
Things are looking grim for file archival & storage, as companies claim they promote "copyright infringement" and do whatever they can to get them shut down.
Not to mention sites like photobucket ransoming peoples pictures, forcing people to "purchase" a subscription or have their images deleted
Photobucket Is Holding People's Photos For "Ransom"
The company is now charging a $400 fee to hot-link images — which will break photos on tons of old websites and blogs.
www.buzzfeednews.com
The quote you brought up isn't holding up in the modern era of the internet, where everything is becoming consolidated and controlled by corporations.
Sony stan’s 
Jonah
XBOT Suicide Prevention Squad
You don't always have to "modify" a console to be able to access that sort of stuff, for example, despite Xbox Live 1.0 being discontinued by microsoft, people were able to create a custom functioning clone of it called "Insignia" which is completely usable with an unmodified xbox, you just have to adjust the internet settings on the dashboard.
Dreamcast is similar with something called "Dreamcast Live" being made. Completely accessible with an unmodified Dreamcast.
You can do the same with unmodified PSP, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS Vita, Xbox 360, etc using something called Xlink Kai.
Another example is MGO2 (MGS4 Online), which can be installed and played on an unmodified PS3 despite being discontinued by Konami many years ago.
all of this using original hardware with zero modifications.
Sony stan’s
fukk sony, fukk nintendo & fukk microsoft, they all ruined the gaming landscape as a whole.Microsoft is the one doing the most shady shyt
You don't always have to "modify" a console to be able to access that sort of stuff, for example, despite Xbox Live 1.0 being discontinued by microsoft, people were able to create a custom functioning clone of it called "Insignia" which is completely usable with an unmodified xbox, you just have to adjust the internet settings on the dashboard.
Dreamcast is similar with something called "Dreamcast Live" being made. Completely accessible with an unmodified Dreamcast.
You can do the same with unmodified PSP, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS Vita, Xbox 360, etc using something called Xlink Kai.
Another example is MGO2 (MGS4 Online), which can be installed and played on an unmodified PS3 despite being discontinued by Konami many years ago.
all of this using original hardware with zero modifications.
You buggin,
You don’t really understand what you are arguing or even advocating for.
Physical gaming is dying cause it’s some antiquated 1994 shyt.
We live in a connected world. If games are to be “preserved” digital data will be involved.
Jonah
XBOT Suicide Prevention Squad
Ok, so tell me about how if you stop paying for PSN/Gamepass/NSO, you can't access any of the games you have downloaded.
You just brainwashed by the corporations to think that digital is the way to go, when in truth, going digital is just going to put you on a subscription service no different to cable packages in the 70s/80s/90s. Same shyt, different era.
Xbox Game Pass is fantastic, but don’t forget that you don’t own these games
I love Xbox Game Pass, but a curated gaming future has me worried.
www.vg247.com
PS Plus games: Do you get to keep PS Plus games after you cancel your subscription?
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stealthoptional.com
PSA: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Removed from Service Aren't Yours to Keep Forever
Once they're gone, they're gone
www.pushsquare.com
But I am sure you are fine with this sort of future, where you don't own the games, only pay to "access" them, and once they are pulled from distribution, you cannot access them anymore.
Meanwhile, my Sega Genesis & Copy of Sonic 2 are mine to keep and play whenever I feel like, without having to worry about paying a subscription fee or having it get pulled due to licensing/copyright issues.
microsoft is a 400B company with money to blow. that never ends well
You don't always have to "modify" a console to be able to access that sort of stuff, for example, despite Xbox Live 1.0 being discontinued by microsoft, people were able to create a custom functioning clone of it called "Insignia" which is completely usable with an unmodified xbox, you just have to adjust the internet settings on the dashboard.
Dreamcast is similar with something called "Dreamcast Live" being made. Completely accessible with an unmodified Dreamcast.
You can do the same with unmodified PSP, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS Vita, Xbox 360, etc using something called Xlink Kai.
Another example is MGO2 (MGS4 Online), which can be installed and played on an unmodified PS3 despite being discontinued by Konami many years ago.
all of this using original hardware with zero modifications.
Microsoft is the one doing the most shady shyt
Yeah the company that gives you the most access to your old catalog by being able to at least pop some of them into a system compared to one company that is gonna take you for a release and another that actually took away a whole backwards compatible system from the market.
The writing was on the wall for physical media when record stores starting dying in mass.
Ok, so tell me about how if you stop paying for PSN/Gamepass/NSO, you can't access any of the games you have downloaded.
You just brainwashed by the corporations to think that digital is the way to go, when in truth, going digital is just going to put you on a subscription service no different to cable packages in the 70s/80s/90s. Same shyt, different era.
Xbox Game Pass is fantastic, but don’t forget that you don’t own these games
I love Xbox Game Pass, but a curated gaming future has me worried.
PS Plus games: Do you get to keep PS Plus games after you cancel your subscription?
If you're wondering whether cancelling your PS Plus subscription will remove your free games, we've got the answers.
PSA: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Removed from Service Aren't Yours to Keep Forever
Once they're gone, they're gone
But I am sure you are fine with this sort of future, where you don't own the games, only pay to "access" them, and once they are pulled from distribution, you cannot access them anymore.
Meanwhile, my Sega Genesis & Copy of Sonic 2 are mine to keep and play whenever I feel like, without having to worry about paying a subscription fee or having it get pulled due to licensing/copyright issues.
Of course you don't get to keep playing gamepass games or ps+ games you ain't purchase.
But I can still play games I bought on my 360 on my series x if I download it now and disconnect from the Internet afterwards.