Michelle Obama: “One of the reasons why I agreed to support Barack’s run...”

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Michelle and Barack just make up shyt that sounds interesting.

Deep down they know their legacy is tarnished as black people began to wake up. We were supposed to be the ones to catapult them to Malcolm and Martin status as white people try to attack and white wash their history but they fell painfully short. :francis:

As a non-American black man, I honestly think it's really weird that some of y'all Ameri-brehs feel this way. :francis:

I mean, real talk we (black people all over the globe, ESPECIALLY the ones not in America) did not think Obama was going to win, at least not until we saw his speeches just a bit before election. :yeshrug:

But I think we knew enough about the system to understand that he wasn't just going to switch up the whole system as president. Maybe it's just me, but the knowledge that presidents are usually puppets is pretty common-wide worldwide, and when presidents do not appear as puppet that usually means that his/her party is extremely on code with them. Which is why when Rodrigo Duterte (Philippines president) can come out and kill his own citizens it's not 'cause he actually has power, it's because most of the politicians in his party agree with him exerting his "power" for that specific goal, if they didn't it would be a quick coup.

So Obama winning wasn't about reparations (and as a non-american breh I highly doubt you'll be getting any reparations any time soon, maybe in 2300 at the earliest?:manny: I at least know we'll all be dead before that happens), nor was it about making things easier for black people with specifically targeted policies and actual tangibles (sure he was black but his party and most of politics is white, and most of the black elite was much more busy trying to attack his legitimacy trying to decide whether he was a c00n or not).

But he did create some trojan horses for minorities (which unfortunately isn't just black people, BUT it includes black people) like the JOBs Act, My Brother's Keeper (which from what I understand was specifically for black males), Fair sentecing Act, well and some more I can't recall...which basically amounts to a man trying to enact change in the midst of enemies that over power him.

In short, he did create some little shyt that if built upon can bring change, but that's on the ones that come after him to capitalize on.

So whenever I see Americans say any version of "Obama didn't do shyt for us" it's actually sad because that means that the very little he actually could do for his people (which to me is just common sense) isn't gonna be capitalized on at all. So he might as well have done nothing.:patrice:

TL;DR: Seeing the bold is weird breh. And also Presidents only have power when their cabinets and party members share the same vision as them (it's a stars aligned phenomenon). A president trying to force his own vision is just not possible because of the voting thing...it's easier to do that when you're a king and emperor, and even then you've gotta seduce everybody around you to see things your way.
 
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I disagree.
We see and are seeing W. Bush being portrayed in a more favorable light relative to Donald Trump. This is happening in real time. People forget that Bush was almost run out of the White House and was perhaps the most mocked,hated, and lampooned president up until that point.

History is going to be more kind to W. by virtue of Trump's mishandling of the office and bozo the clown actions and persona. Even the average person who hated Bush back then wouldn't hold that negative perception today to the extent is existed when he was in office.

How does Obama's legacy take a hit among historians or regular people with Trump's buffoonery show running 24/7 for 4 years straight? And his shortcomings as a leader doing irreparable damage to the country?

Serious question

I honestly think George Dubya is getting that white stimulus.

But I was sepcifically speaking within the black community not as a whole. White people will view him as a bastion of tolerance and immigrants (if they haven't white identified yet will look to him as having open the door to opportunities.

I honestly do not see what is that one thing future black generations can point to and say he has done that has a lasting effect for them
 

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As a non-American black man, I honestly think it's really weird that some of y'all Ameri-brehs feel this way. :francis:

I mean, real talk we (black people all over the globe, ESPECIALLY the ones not in America) did not think Obama was going to win, at least not until we saw his speeches just a bit before election. :yeshrug:

But I think we knew enough about the system to understand that he wasn't just going to switch up the whole system as president. Maybe it's just me, but the knowledge that presidents are usually puppets is pretty common-wide worldwide, and when presidents do not appear as puppet that usually means that his/her party is extremely on code with them. Which is why when Rodrigo Duterte (Philippines president) can come out and kill his own citizens it's not 'cause he actually has power, it's because most of the politicians in his party agree with him exerting his "power" for that specific goal, if they didn't it would be a quick coup.

So Obama winning wasn't about reparations (and as a non-american breh I highly doubt you'll be getting any reparations any time soon, maybe in 2300 at the earliest?:manny: I at least know we'll all be dead before that happens), nor was it about making things easier for black people with specifically targeted policies and actual tangibles (sure he was black but his party and most of politics is white, and most of the black elite was much more busy trying to attack his legitimacy trying to decide whether he was a c00n or not).

But he did create some trojan horses for minorities (which unfortunately isn't just black people, BUT it includes black people) like the JOBs Act, My Brother's Keeper (which from what I understand was specifically for black males), Fair sentecing Act, well and some more I can't recall...which basically amounts to a man trying to enact change in the midst of enemies that over power him.

In short, he did create some little shyt that if built upon can bring change, but that's on the ones that come after him to capitalize on.

So whenever I see Americans say any version of "Obama didn't do shyt for us" it's actually sad because that means that the very little he actually could do for his people (which to me is just common sense) do isn't gonna be capitalized on at all. So he might as well have done nothing.:patrice:

TL;DR: Seeing the bold is weird breh. And also Presidents only have power when their cabinets and party members share the same vision as them (it's a stars aligned phenomenon). A president trying to force his own vision is just not possible because of the voting thing...it's easier to do that when you're a king and emperor, and even then you've gotta seduce everybody around you to see things your way.

I understand why you would feel that way but there are nuances to politics and race that only someone born and raised in this country within multiple generations can understand.

I understand that it's extremely difficult for any black man to get something positive done within the context of white supremacy.
But to simplify for the sake of time, it wasn't that he didn't enact progressive policies (that disproportionately benefit non black people) its also his overall attitude toward black people that has us disenfranchised.

Like people were saying earlier in the thread, just because you don't THINK it can happen does not mean you dont try. His overall attitude toward the black plight waa dismissive and as a result black people have the perception (imo correctly) that ge didnt bother to even try to push legislation that would elevate BLACK AMERICANS and shorten economic gap betweem blacks and other races. Hope that makes sense.
 

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I never thought there would be a black* president before Obama so I can see why she thought that :manny:
This whole thing was set up. America had to rebrand itself after the fukkery that was President dikk Cheney. It was either gonna be a white bytch or Black dude because that would have sent the world in a frenzy which did happen but then Obama proved he was dikk Cheney part 2 except he was really in the captains chair publicly.

Michelle Obama doesn't respect or love Barack goofy ass. She's always saying some bullshyt shytting on him publicly.
 
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Dude repeatedly says suspect shyt. I just kind of expect if from him at this point. I don't think that he knows any better.
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Fact of the matter is... im legit in these streets so I don't mind speaking my mind.

As militant as yall claim to be, I'm really about this life and have invested and done more in the black community than 50% of this site put together.

I don't play a militant on the internet. I was raised a militant and I was raised to care about my ppl and to work for my ppl.

I dont have anything to prove to a bunch of folks on the coli. Some ppl know me off of here and know what I'm about.
 

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Fact of the matter is... im legit in these streets so I don't mind speaking my mind.

As militant as yall claim to be, I'm really about this life and have invested and done more in the black community than 50% of this site put together.

I don't play a militant on the internet. I was raised a militant and I was raised to care about my ppl and to work for my ppl.

I dont have anything to prove to a bunch of folks on the coli. Some ppl know me off of here and know what I'm about.


Okay, breh.
:francis:
 

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I believe it. I didnt think he would win.:russ:

I even cast a vote for McCain like "aint no way white folks gon let a black man become president" :hhh::rudy:


Then that night when he won, me and Jesse Jackson had the same :mjcry: face

Legit blew my mind.

But I know all of the coli "militants" gon come in here hating on Michelle. Yall have at it :francis:
Yall are really trash posters :wow:
 

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I think thats real talk

Who the he'll thought he would win

I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime


Same here. I voted for him both times....When CNN said he won that night in 08, I still couldnt believe it. I was like they gone pull something. :wtb:
 

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Most people knew Barack was gonna win once McCain picked Palin. When Barack was running against Hilary in primaries no one thought he had a chance.
 
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