Michelle Beadle & Marcellus Wiley Went at It

[Big Boss]

Yep that is her? Thanks I couldnt remember that fine sistas name.

she bad

 

[I.V.]

Then don't give a one size fits all wrongs pass. Some of us have to live under the thumb of the likes of a Beadle type. So we don't have the luxury of viewing things as "all" instead busy at the varying degrees of what's really fukked up to us.

Please stop trying to serve me word salads.

If you want to rank them in order of wrongness, and that makes you feel better about what was said... go for it.

I think Beadle's use of "animal" is the obvious worst part of a silly and poorly thought out argument. shyt is racist. I don't think I should have to establish the obvious baseline, in a thread where a bunch of comments have already done it for me.

Everything about the conversation made me cringe.

So again, if you want to throw punches at everyone who steps in this thread... that's fine. Feel like you're being heard, go nuts. But don't be reckless in my direction.

 

[Thegospel]

Please stop trying to serve me word salads.

If you want to rank them in order of wrongness, and that makes you feel better about what was said... go for it.

I think Beadle's use of "animal" is the obvious worst part of a silly and poorly thought out argument. shyt is racist. I don't think I should have to establish the obvious baseline, in a thread where a bunch of comments have already done it for me.

Everything about the conversation made me cringe.

So again, if you want to throw punches at everyone who steps in this thread... that's fine. Feel like you're being heard, go nuts. But don't be reckless in my direction.

 

[I.V.]

I feel the same way, man.

Hopefully ESPN thinks better about putting garbage ass segments like this together.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Please stop trying to serve me word salads.

If you want to rank them in order of wrongness, and that makes you feel better about what was said... go for it.

I think Beadle's use of "animal" is the obvious worst part of a silly and poorly thought out argument. shyt is racist. I don't think I should have to establish the obvious baseline, in a thread where a bunch of comments have already done it for me.

Everything about the conversation made me cringe.

So again, if you want to throw punches at everyone who steps in this thread... that's fine. Feel like you're being heard, go nuts. But don't be reckless in my direction.

Throw punches? I'm just amazed at the balls of a scumbag beinf so openly racist. I've never taken any real time to hear her beyond this week. With racial tensions in this country at an all time high, I don't see how anything Max or Wiley could be even heard in light of her madness. There was a line crossed by her that was EVERYTHING wrong about that segment.

I don't know how one takes the time to even process what's being said by anyone else after she spewed that filth. I wish I had that luxury.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

A lot of these dudes (both fans and media) are just as bad if not worse. You see Max was right there with her on that bullshyt. It's not so much about her gender as it is about hubris and entitlement and group think. A lot of these people in the media resent the athletes that they cover and believe that they and their opinions are actually more important. Just look at the baseball HOF shyt. Just look at the behavior of prominent male names like Skip Bayless and Mike Lupica. Look at Steven A. cutting promos and making threats because KD rebuffed him . Women don't have the market cornered on this bullshyt, not by a long shot.

I disagree.

Max was coming to it from the "devil's advocate" perspective that he always does.

Marcellus were coming to it from a player's perspective and a logical perspective in saying we should separate Hardy the football player from Hardy the criminal.

Max was saying that it's hard to do that from a business perspective and that because the perception of Hardy is what it is, then they have to clamp down on Hardy because it looks bad. Again, that's a logical perspective.

Beadle is only coming to it from the perspective of "Hardy's a bad guy who beats women, so we have to make sure he can't make a living anymore". That's not a logical argument. It's an emotional one.

Marcellus and Beadle were on separate sides. Max was trying to mediate.

Also, Skip, Stephen A., Mike Lupica, etc. . . are symptomatic of an ESPN that is pandering to women. My mother doesn't even like sports but watches Skip and Stephan A. and is always asking me if I saw what they said about this. Those guys are a part of the plan to make sports more emotional and less logical to appeal to "non-traditional" (i.e. female) fan bases.

 

[Box Cutta]

The truth is that women generally don't develop interests in hobbies, skill sets, ideas in the same way men do. Men, when they become interested in music, sports, or hell even video games usually also develop a desire to MASTER it in some way - whether directly or indirectly. Mastering used in this context doesn't mean necessarily mean directly performing the activity they are interested in. For example, a guy who is really into sports but isn't athletic himself might instead just work on "mastering" sports in an indirect way such as memorizing statistics and plays. A guy who doesn't have musical talent himself and is incapable of directly mastering music by creating music, might instead do something like memorizing the discography of his favorite band and learning about the trivia surrounding the recording of his favorite songs.

Women on the other hand, when they get involved in the scene that surrounds a particular band, a sports team, or whatever don't care about the actual band or team or whatever. What matters to them instead is the SOCIAL elements of the scene. A good example of this is sports, particularly with college football/soccer/baseball, etc. Any time I see females in a crowd at some college football/sports stadium I already know half of the girls in the crowd have no idea what's going on the in the game outside of the fact that the ball being closer to the other team's goal = good. For them, the enjoyment doesn't come from the game itself but from feeling like they are part of something and that they are bonding with other people. The fun for them is everyone wearing the same colors and cheering in unison with other people. A guy might watch a game by himself on a couch while drinking a beer if for some reason he can't go out with buddies to watch it. Can you imagine a girl doing the same? When a girl bangs the alpha male of a particular scene whether it be the quarterback of a football team or some local popular hipster guitar player she doesn't care about his actual accomplishments or skills. What actually turns her on is the man's status in the scene and how he is respected and exalted by other men.

Good 'ol Arthur Schopenhauer actually talks about this in his infamous "On Women" essay:

"This makes them incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything, and the reason for it is, I fancy, as follows. A man strives to get direct mastery over things either by understanding them or by compulsion. But a woman is always and everywhere driven to indirect mastery, namely through a man; all her direct mastery being limited to him alone. Therefore it lies in woman’s nature to look upon everything only as a means for winning man, and her interest in anything else is always a simulated one, a mere roundabout way to gain her ends, consisting of coquetry and pretence."

Dap + Rep

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Nah man Max is cool. He makes it blatant he ain't down says he's from Watts and shyt. That shyt funny he know he just like Nas. Grew up in NY. Stayed and watched shyt from his bed side Scribbling in his note pad. shyt is funny. Dude know and we all know he ain't down. Shown here

So he's a caricature then?

 

[Momentum]

Michelle got 3-0'd. Her only talking point was the guns, which had NOTHING to do with the special teams getting that work from my nikka Dwayne Harris.

 

[Kierris]

Why are you @'ing me. I'm all for criticizing those worthy of it - both athletes and the bullshyt media, but the coli blindly defends piece of shyt actions/men on some "they're attacking the black man" conspiracy bs damn near daily.

You a uncle tom ass nikka bruh assuming you black. You sound like a boxden nikka

 

[Road20]

I agree with everything said here, except for max being a phony. I always thought max was a cool dude. He is being devil's advocate here, which he always does

 

[Rell84shots]

I agree with everything said here, except for max being a phony. I always thought max was a cool dude. He is being devil's advocate here, which he always does

But being the devil's advocate means you're defending the devil, which Beadle is.

 

[Road20]

not necessarily imo. He wasn't coming from an emotional place like beadle was. Its true that hardy is being judged on a different set of criteria

 

[DonKnock]

and that's why we've been trying to get the dumb bytch fired...

I think dudes even wrote to Disney claiming to be appalled soccer moms...

That's why I love this place...

Wolves really out here workin

 

[FTBS]

I disagree.

Max was coming to it from the "devil's advocate" perspective that he always does.

Marcellus were coming to it from a player's perspective and a logical perspective in saying we should separate Hardy the football player from Hardy the criminal.

Max was saying that it's hard to do that from a business perspective and that because the perception of Hardy is what it is, then they have to clamp down on Hardy because it looks bad. Again, that's a logical perspective.

Beadle is only coming to it from the perspective of "Hardy's a bad guy who beats women, so we have to make sure he can't make a living anymore". That's not a logical argument. It's an emotional one.

Marcellus and Beadle were on separate sides. Max was trying to mediate.

Also, Skip, Stephen A., Mike Lupica, etc. . . are symptomatic of an ESPN that is pandering to women. My mother doesn't even like sports but watches Skip and Stephan A. and is always asking me if I saw what they said about this. Those guys are a part of the plan to make sports more emotional and less logical to appeal to "non-traditional" (i.e. female) fan bases.

No Max was riding with that bytch . Playing devil's advocate would put him on Hardy's side, as everybody was going at his neck. A lot of men have been coming from the same perspective she was coming from. We can't act like Beadle has been the only one spewing this foolishness.

ESPN has been pandering to women for a decade or so. Skip and co. been at it for decades breh. You look at how illogical some of these old heads are when it comes to celebrations or how much money guys are getting or PEDs and I don't know how you can act as if emotion is limited to females or female pandering or males are purely logical when it comes to sports. Just look on here, you got a mostly male board blatantly ignoring or dismissing facts, getting in their feelings when facts go against them, making up their own facts, wishing injury on nikkas, making fun of tragedy, manufacturing reasons to hate on people all because they like or don't like a certain player.