Michael Smith is a fakkit for this

[Rekkapryde]

So he was a flawed human like everyone else? We judging people for being flawed? Okay don’t cry when it’s your time

All it boils down to fam.

He was a man, good, great at times, and did bad too. Not perfect and made mistakes. Does NOT take away from the great things he did one bit. It was a little disappointing finding out how dude was a serial woman abuser, but he also did great things for women too.

and the legacy of the great things you did >>> the bad.

 

[FeverPitch2]

Yea . I ain't going lie.. I'm hearing Tina is

Had me reevaluating

She was definitely and what we saw in that movie was nowhere near close to what it really was.
Ike was no saint, by any stretch, but that movie was cap deluxe.
Ike signed off on that movie. If Ike knew how that film was going to permanently taint his legacy, he wouldn't have.
When Tina passed, I did not slander her. I wished her a peaceful rest and stayed quiet.
It's not hard to do.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Bro when we bring up the founding fathers nobody in society are calling them racist and racist which they were. People get tattoos of them and call them great men. Them owning and raping slaves is never even thought about.

Elvis married kids and nobody cares. He is still the king and when he is talked about on public platforms it is only his good that is shown. We only want to show the bad sides of black people it seems

shytting on nikkaz draws way more attention than shytting on cacs cause it gives them someone else to point the finger at rather than themselves.

Always has and will in this country.

You 100% right on the founding fathers. Never forget taking a class in college talking about history, science, and tech and found out that good ole Thomas Jefferson was out here conducting scientific experiments trying to prove that blacks were dumber than whites. He should be acknowledged as a slave owner and that bullshyt about him and Sally Hemmings just HAD TO BE in love when he raped her and had all those mulatto kids needs to be part of his legacy more.

Just as cacs like to bring up our people's shortcomings no matter how great they are, our black journalists need to do the same. I 100% agree on that.

 

[FeverPitch2]

What other media is it going to happen on?
Black owned Twitter? Oh wait
Black owned YouTube? Oh wait
Black owned Spotify? Oh wait

What!?

Ol “hush up now, they may hear us being objective about our problems”….

If you can't see a double standard, I don't know what else to tell you.
Put it to you this way, the way Marvin Gaye's death was handled by the media would have been completely different had it happened today.
White folks happened to really dig Richard Pryor, so when he passed, there were no "complicated legacy" thinkpieces.
This ain't got nothing to do with respectability politics.
Zero.

 

[Rekkapryde]

She was definitely and what we saw in that movie was nowhere near close to what it really was.
Ike was no saint, by any stretch, but that movie was cap deluxe.
Ike signed off on that movie. If Ike knew how that film was going to permanently taint his legacy, he wouldn't have.
When Tina passed, I did not slander her. I wished her a peaceful rest and stayed quiet.
It's not hard to do.

Movie was the equivalent of the current Lakers show on HBO. VERY DRAMATIZED compared to the what actually happened. Wife is a Tina stan and she damn near would point out every single ducktale in the movie.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

You sure about that one as that Elvis movie acknowledged all of the skeletons in his closet that complicates his legacy?

No it did not. All that movie did was made folks feel sorry for Elvis

 

[The God Poster]

no he isn’t

he’s being honest and at least he isn’t being a full bytch trying to discount the good he did on some cancellation shyt.

yall the same dudes who preach about accountability

Same posters in the Ja thread screaming at the top of they lungs

Many of the same people that excused Tina's bullshyt will be the ones attacking Jim.

They should be called out too. The problem is too many “adults” feel the need to be right at all times. Wrong is wrong it’s not a hard concept.

 

[Cladyclad]

Didn’t Jim Allegedly throw a bytch off a balcony or moving car?

 

[Cladyclad]

What Tina do? I thought she just got her ass beat

 

[Ziggiy]

That is a dumbass comparison ......R.Kelly and Chris Brown did not fight for Black American rights so why would they be a target for the FBI.

I guess you saying that R. Kelly 'I Believe I can Fly, put him on the FBI radar because he was giving a secret message to Black Americans to fly back home to African and build a superpower in Africa and fly back to America with African reinforcement and take over the USA.

Your being willfully obtuse. I don’t generally respond to the willfully ignorant but fukk it..

The common equation between Jim Brown, Chris Brown and R.Kelly is that there is a DOCUMENTED history disturbing, depraved, and/or violent behavior involving MULTIPLE incidences. Jim Brown was tried and convicted at least twice for his history of violence. Not only towards women, but men too. In 1978 he beat up and choked out his golfing partner ( a man). Are you saying the FBI planted that man to become Jim Brown’s friend so he could provoke him into attacking him all to damage his reputation as a civil rights icon? Ok lets play ball with that. Yes the government HAS conspired to destroy the reputations and credibilities of many prominent black men.

BUT

Lets go back to 1968. He was accused of THROWING A WOMAN OFF A BALCONY. The woman refused to name Brown as her assailant. Open and shut case? Not quite, Brown was ALSO fined for striking a Sheriff’s Deputy during the same incident. So not ONLY did the FBI somehow plant a woman in Brown’s vicinity to provoke him into THROWING HER OFF AN APARTMENT BALCONY; they also had a backup plan JUST IN CASE this insurgent they hired changed her mind so they ALSO planted a member of law enforcement at the scene on the oft chance that Brown would whoop HIS ass so they could claim victory…


Lets fast forward to 1999…

At the FBI “Gotta Get These nikkas” headquarters, a young up and coming agent, lets call him “Agent Whippersnapper” has just come from watching the movie Enemy Of The State. He’s geeked up at the new technology and methods available to the Government to discredit and frame African American civil rights icons. He has what he thinks is a GREAT idea. He goes to his superior, Senior Agent “Thomas Dixon” and excitedly explains that, having failed to properly destroy the reputation of their sworn nemesis Jim Brown, they should simply kidnap and murder Monique, his wife of 2 years, and replace her with a robotic dopplehanger. This replicant will falsely accuse Brown of physical assault and verbal threats. To top it off, another replicant of Brown will then vandalize Monique’s car with a shovel (the entire sequence will be directed by Ridley Scott for maximum effect) to leave NO DOUBT in the public consciousness that Brown is, at the very least prone to violent outbursts.
The REAL Brown will of course be tried, convicted of the vandalism, and sentenced to 400 Hours of community service. The REAL Brown, knowing that he’s being set up, will have no choice but to go along with this and keep the ruse up by STAYING MARRIED to the replicant Monique for the rest of his days…


Ladies and Gentlemen.

The FBI

 

[Rekkapryde]

Your being willfully obtuse. I don’t generally respond to the willfully ignorant but fukk it..

The common equation between Jim Brown, Chris Brown and R.Kelly is that there is a DOCUMENTED history disturbing, depraved, and/or violent behavior involving MULTIPLE incidences. Jim Brown was tried and convicted at least twice for his history of violence. Not only towards women, but men too. In 1978 he beat up and choked out his golfing partner ( a man). Are you saying the FBI planted that man to become Jim Brown’s friend so he could provoke him into attacking him all to damage his reputation as a civil rights icon? Ok lets play ball with that. Yes the government HAS conspired to destroy the reputations and credibilities of many prominent black men.

BUT

Lets go back to 1968. He was accused of THROWING A WOMAN OFF A BALCONY. The woman refused to name Brown as her assailant. Open and shut case? Not quite, Brown was ALSO fined for striking a Sheriff’s Deputy during the same incident. So not ONLY did the FBI somehow plant a woman in Brown’s vicinity to provoke him into THROWING HER OFF AN APARTMENT BALCONY; they also had a backup plan JUST IN CASE this insurgent they hired changed her mind so they ALSO planted a member of law enforcement at the scene on the oft chance that Brown would whoop HIS ass so they could claim victory…


Lets fast forward to 1999…

At the FBI “Gotta Get These nikkas” headquarters, a young up and coming agent, lets call him “Agent Whippersnapper” has just come from watching the movie Enemy Of The State. He’s geeked up at the new technology and methods available to the Government to discredit and frame African American civil rights icons. He has what he thinks is a GREAT idea. He goes to his superior, Senior Agent “Thomas Dixon” and excitedly explains that, having failed to properly destroy the reputation of their sworn nemesis Jim Brown, they should simply kidnap and murder Monique, his wife of 2 years, and replace her with a robotic dopplehanger. This replicant will falsely accuse Brown of physical assault and verbal threats. To top it off, another replicant of Brown will then vandalize Monique’s car with a shovel (the entire sequence will be directed by Ridley Scott for maximum effect) to leave NO DOUBT in the public consciousness that Brown is, at the very least prone to violent outbursts.
The REAL Brown will of course be tried, convicted of the vandalism, and sentenced to 400 Hours of community service. The REAL Brown, knowing that he’s being set up, will have no choice but to go along with this and keep the ruse up by STAYING MARRIED to the replicant Monique for the rest of his days…


Ladies and Gentlemen.

The FBI

Yeah, it's safe to say homie may have had some anger management issues. Even the gangbangers he would let come in and out of his house to eat/sleep when they had nowhere to go knew not to fukk wit or try him. That said a lot.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

It’s the attack dogging for me

We always want to play the front line in “complicating” someone’s legacy.

When Robert Kraft kicks the bucket, will Michael Smith be the one to call him out for being a convicted criminal who exploited poor immigrants for sex work? I highly doubt it.

They only attack low hanging fruit such as Trump and Donald Sterling.

 

[Panther]

A lot of y’all can’t handle objective conversation. Like no, this shouldn’t be the headline of his death, but if you gonna do a segment on the man, it’s absolutely part of it. Lol @ stay on code, y’all really expect code to be “it’s ok for black people to terrify our own community, just don’t mention it for others to hear”

Facts. All this splaining brehs doing for some fukk shyt like DV...

 

[Supa]

Why do we only hold this concept with black people? And if all people are flawed, shouldn’t we retroactively go back and bring up their past?

So when a black person is killed by the cops or a racist, we should bring up the things that happened in his life that might not be “so good”? People are flawed and we all have done wrong. Bringing it up to denigrate and judge a person in the grave is unfair and tone death imo

That's a massive false equivalency. A murder victim's past shouldn't be brought up when it had nothing to do with them being killed. That's a deflection to justify a crime. Jim Brown wasn't a victim he died of old age. Michael Smith is a journalist so he wouldn't be doing his job only talking about football, acting, and activism while ignoring his murky personal life.

Reflecting on someone's legacy means you look at everything, good or bad. When people talk about Malcolm do they leave out Detroit Red? No, because the good and bad are part of his life in totality.

 

[Peter Popoff]

I mean he right though. Nıgga was putting hands and feet in bıtches. He was real life caricature of Clifton Powell in a TP movie.