Michael fassbender and David fincher upcoming movie "The killer"

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I liked it :yeshrug:

him not killing the client makes sense too, by then he wasn't as assured as he used to be due to the multitude of fukk-ups leading up to that stage. also "risky, this one. considering how police tend to match their effort in direct proportion to the victim's networth."

Cool movie. Dope concept. The hitman who isn’t quite as great as he seems to think lol

he doesn't think he's great - he tells you as much in the first scene - and has a whole routine he keeps reciting to center himself - in fact, i'm surprised reading the comments in this thread that brehs think he was supposed to be infallible - he tells you explicitly he isn't exceptional nor a genius
 

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A bit overly wordy at times but an entertaining watch with some unexpected turns and decent laughs. Good to see Fassbender again.
 

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I enjoyed it but Fincher needs to get away from Netflix, there’s just something missing from Fincher’s last two films.
shyt still feels very minor league. there are maybe 2 streaming movies a year, regardless of budget, that feel like "big" zeitgeist type movies. Netflix makes 8 boombastic, huge budget, star driven "blockbusters" a year, a couple of mid-budget movies like this with big named directors/actors, and like 2 of them are ok. it's fascinating.
 

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Saw a YT explanation of this.

Basically he is transforming from a wanton killer who will merk anybody for any reason, to more of a "normal" person.

Which is why it ended the way it did. With that in mind, I like the movie better than when I first finished it.
 

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Pretty good overall. Slow at times and there's no way he should've survived that fight with the big dude like he did. His vertebra should've been snapped in half. Didn't get why he let the rich guy off the hook at the end when he bodied everyone else. I enjoyed it tho
 

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Fincher needs to switch it up, great director technically but he's just repeating himself.
 

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I read the intro and the rest of the movie as more about a guy who got bored at his job and self-sabotaged his way to retirement and the good life as a result. Not as one about a guy who was shyt at his job and just a whiner/lacking in self-awareness.

*got high and ended up making a long ass write-up, but this is how I saw it***

In the intro, he starts out by saying you can't do this job if you can't deal with boredom. We then see his entire, long, tedious process of getting ready for the kill...all the monotony. It's like you have to be a machine to do the job. He also mentioned being 100% successful on every kill except for a guy who dropped dead of a heart attack that he couldn't claim. The botched kill we see is the 1st one if we believe him- so it's not as much about general incompetency as much as slipping.

We'd seen him get distracted a few, him complaining to his handler about nothing happening/no target. Him talking about how the distance kills are the least fun and least creative. He's mastered his craft and is bored. Starting to look more human than machine.

And he was getting distracted by the dominatrix thing during the botched kill. All the while, the song with the line "I am human and I want to be loved" plays in the background. At the end of the day, the Killer is still just a guy.

And the chain of events after the botched kill sets off him having to get up close and personal on every kill after in the movie. It culminates with the brute kill...that is the sloppiest kill possible, but also the one where he had to improvise the most.

The interaction with the Hodges handler makes it clear that the expectation is that the guy is a clean, methodical killer who operates more as machine than human too. Hodges doesn't think he's in danger at all until the last possible moment because he expects the Killer to do the rational, clean thing. Which he doesn't. He kills him with that nail gun.

And the Tilde kill reveals that he's not incapable of operating at a high level as much as just wanting to mix it up and play with odds more than certainties. He doesn't take the food because it's already out there when he arrives and he never sees her eat it. He grabs her drink to drink the alcohol that could be spiked because he doesn't think she'd kill him AND herself. He accurately guesses her knack for self-preservation, and is ready when she tries to pull that fast one on him and stab him at the end.

The Tilde convo is also the most revealing one too, imo. She's caught slipping at dinner, 1st of all, so caught relaxing and enjoying herself. She mentions thinking this day would never come, but clearly she got caught slipping and that was some arrogance. Then she talks about the Bear in the woods and the Sodomy...punchline being, "You know. I don't think you're here for the hunt." Hinting at subconscious motivations.

Maybe I missed it, but the one thing that would kind of solidify my understanding of the Killer's motives and what led to everything playing out...is if he was fairly recently with his girl. Just starting to enjoy a taste of the good life and enjoy the fruits of his labor.

His character was like the bizarro world version of the Sheriff from No Country for Old Men. Two characters recognizing when it's time to bow out of the game.
This.

He's bored or like Tildes story suggests, he was there to sodomize himself for possibly guilt about what he's done or just a maniac who enjoys the chaos to a degree more then being clean efficient and free of risk.

He may have missed the shot as an opportunity to not only free himself of his handler but to also enjoy the u predictability of being human while also punishing himself for being who / what he is.

In Brazillian Jiujitsu when you get bored using your A game against lesser skilled opponents you will take risks to make it seem like they have a chance and then quickly shutting that door as if it say, it does matter what you do I am In control even when it seems like you are.
 

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ehhhhh......
No way he survives the Samoan beatdown
Still dont understand why he killed the cab driver. If its because he saw his face, so did the rich guy at the condo.....
 

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I didn't know what to make of this one at first but it clicked with me on the rewatch.

It's a comedy about how the modern world is perfectly tailored for sociopaths.
 
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