Michael B Jordan being accused of cultural appropriation. UPDATE: name change is coming
- Thread starter concise
- Start date
DaRealness
I think very deeply
I'd say Black Americans and other black people are right to attack Nicki Minaj (or people like her) for running her mouth over a non issue. His partner is Trini apparently, but if she was Jamaican and he gave it a name from yaad I wouldn't have an issue with it. He did nothing disrespectful or wrong here. He's not known to disrespect other cultures. I have no problem with black intercultural ventures and music.
The problem is when people like Nicki Minaj don't call out white cultural appropriators and when people think she's the voice of all caribbeans when most really don't give a shyt about this or her for that matter.
K.O.N.Y
Superstar
they put most of their stock in kool herc being jamaicanYeah I wanna read what he comes up with.
But kool herc himself says the origins were Ados
no one person or even a couple, can claim the creation of hip hop. Hip hop was a communal effort culturally.
Kool herc didn't ascend onto the bronx, said "let' there be light" and on the seventh-day hip hop was born
that's not how it workedIts sonic basis is funk music
Dj culture- from funk-disco dj culture
rapping has been floating around ados culture since early southern gospel hymns-scatting,jive talking,dirty dozens,cab Calloway,hustlers convention,pigmeat,dolemite etc
Exactly what is Caribbean about that. Again I'm from the Bronx and grew up with this. Im still waiting for this clout chasing negro to explain himself
This. Here is the ADOS/FBA gospel quartet the Jubalaires, in the 1940s. The cadence of this rap is almost identical to the flow that Grandmaster Melle Mel used in "The Message". Respect the Architect.they put most of their stock in kool herc being jamaican
But kool herc himself says the origins were Ados
no one person or even a couple, can claim the creation of hip hop. Hip hop was a communal effort culturally.
Kool herc didn't ascend onto the bronx, said "let' there be light" and on the seventh-day hip hop was born
Its sonic basis is funk music
Dj culture- from funk-disco dj culture
rapping has been floating around ados culture since early southern gospel hymns-scatting,jive talking,dirty dozens,cab Calloway,hustlers convention,pigmeat,dolemite etc
Exactly what is Caribbean about that. Again I'm from the Bronx and grew up with this. Im still waiting for this clout chasing negro to explain himself
Kooley_High
All Star
they put most of their stock in kool herc being jamaican
But kool herc himself says the origins were Ados
no one person or even a couple, can claim the creation of hip hop. Hip hop was a communal effort culturally.
Kool herc didn't ascend onto the bronx, said "let' there be light" and on the seventh-day hip hop was born
Its sonic basis is funk music
Dj culture- from funk-disco dj culture
rapping has been floating around ados culture since early southern gospel hymns-scatting,jive talking,dirty dozens,cab Calloway,hustlers convention,pigmeat,dolemite etc
Exactly what is Caribbean about that. Again I'm from the Bronx and grew up with this. Im still waiting for this clout chasing negro to explain himself
I agree. While there can be a claim that Carribean people brought the DJ/Soundsytems to a bigger prominence, the music itself is AA. Carribean music was very distinct and there is no trace of that crossover from it into early rap music. The last poets and even Rudy Ray Moore were speaking on musical tracks way before hiphop was a thing. While Kool Herc was a Jamaican, and there were many carribeans descent DJs, they were essentially just playing AA music through their equipment/soundsytem. I feel it was more of a communal thing as previously said before
Raggaeton, on the other hand, has CLEAR Jamaican/Dancehall rhythms that can be traced back to the source. You can legit here the influence and point it out.
Both Hip hop and raggaeton have carribean influences but one is waaaay more direct and prominent than the other.
Last edited:
Low End Derrick
Veteran
Low End Derrick
Veteran
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
My opinion on this is that I agree and disagree
1. On one hand I agree with them because I believe there's no need to jack/appropriate ANYTHING that comes from or references another culture outside the one you belong to. This isn't really appropriation because his business partner is Trini, but still
2. I disagree because of just how one-sided historically (even as I type this) the level of appropriation by non-ADOS of ADOS is w/o 99% of ADOS returning static over it. Everyone wants to leech off ADOS but as soon it's the other way around (which is usually a few people here and there rather than mass-appropriation) , non-ADOS want to throw a hissy fit
1. On one hand I agree with them because I believe there's no need to jack/appropriate ANYTHING that comes from or references another culture outside the one you belong to. This isn't really appropriation because his business partner is Trini, but still
2. I disagree because of just how one-sided historically (even as I type this) the level of appropriation by non-ADOS of ADOS is w/o 99% of ADOS returning static over it. Everyone wants to leech off ADOS but as soon it's the other way around (which is usually a few people here and there rather than mass-appropriation) , non-ADOS want to throw a hissy fit
Last edited:
Where the fukk is Wallace @The Hon. Stringer Bell ? 
A number of Jamaicans have this weird tendency to disregard everything their elders have said about learning from ADOSthey put most of their stock in kool herc being jamaican
But kool herc himself says the origins were Ados
no one person or even a couple, can claim the creation of hip hop. Hip hop was a communal effort culturally.
Kool herc didn't ascend onto the bronx, said "let' there be light" and on the seventh-day hip hop was born
My opinion on this is that I agree and disagree
1. On one hand I agree with them because I believe there's no need to jack/appropriate ANYTHING that comes from or references another culture outside the one you belong to. This isn't really appropriation because his business partner is Trini, but still
2. I disagree because of just how one-sided historically (even as I type this) the level of appropriation by non-ADOS of ADOS is w/o 99% of ADOS returning static over it. Everyone wants to leech off ADOS (which is usually a few people here and there rather than mass-appropriation) but as soon it's the other way around, non-ADOS want to throw a hissy fit
Rep
zerorequiem
All Star
Remember they told ADOS/Black Americans to keep out of their business when it came to that.
