Miami Heat 2015 Offseason thread: Reload, Retool, and most importantly, Recover

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i'm enjoying the suspense....:popcorn3:

i like the writer's use of 601 Biscayne and FO strategy in his article. almost sounds like a recent post in this thread. :laugh:



With Dwyane Wade’s uncertainty, Heat might search for replacement in draft


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If Dwyane Wade parts ways with the Miami Heat, a young scorer becomes a priority. | Mike Ehrmann Getty Images

By Joseph Goodman

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article25447246.html

  • Amid an unsettled roster, finding a replacement for disgruntled superstar Dwyane Wade might be the Heat’s safest draft-day option.

    If a financial agreement cannot be reached between Wade and the Heat soon, then a contingency plan could include using the team’s No. 10 pick in the NBA Draft to replace the 33-year-old superstar on the team’s roster. Wade is considered one of the top-five shooting guards in NBA history, so any scenario that involves him leaving Miami would greatly alter the Heat’s strategy for success next season. Under this backdrop, the Heat’s front office is preparing for Thursday’s draft while also sorting through an interlocking web of offseason scenarios and options.

    In other words, these are busy times at 601 Biscayne Boulevard.

    With a projected lineup loaded with talent and versatility next season, the crossroads of uncertainty and potential meet now for the Heat. The team has been under a fog ever since losing to the San Antonio Spurs in the 2014 NBA Finals, and the franchise is hoping Thursday’s draft, which includes a watch party for fans, will be the moment the sun peeks through the haze.

    A depressing regular season ended more than two months ago but still the sting of embarrassment lingers for the Heat. Yes, there were enough injuries, illnesses, health scares and other excuses (Post-LeBron Shock Syndrome) to deflect away the blame, but nothing really washes out the stain of losing double-digit fourth-quarter leads to inferior competition during a playoff chase: 15 points to the Pistons, 16 points to the Bucks and how exactly did the Nets make the playoffs and the Heat did not?

    Hey, at least LeBron lost, right?

    As happy as the Cavaliers’ loss in the NBA Finals delighted some Heat fans (and team executives), reveling in the failure of others isn’t always the healthiest option. One way for the Heat to cure all that negativity would be by making a splashy move (or moves) on draft day.

    The Heat most likely will take a conservative approach to the draft, but an unexpected twist is possible. That could include taking a chance on an athletic wing in the mold of Wade, or perhaps moving up the draft board to find a new starter.

    Despite all of the saber rattling of the past few weeks, most NBA insiders still believe Wade is staying put in Miami. At 33, he could use a young and eager backup. And if Wade does indeed part ways with the Heat, then a young scorer becomes a priority.

    The Heat has other needs — as detailed by the Miami Herald over the past two days — but no matter where talks go between Wade and the Heat, a new playmaker would help.

    There are players expected to be available at No.10 who could potentially turn into the NBA’s next two-way star.

    With a solid team expected to the return next season, the Heat could gamble in the hopes of unearthing a gem.

    Kelly Oubre Jr., a 6-7 freshman from Kansas University, is an unknown quantity with great athleticism. Oubre was 4 years old when his family relocated from New Orleans to Houston after Hurricane Katrina. He averaged nearly 10 points and five rebounds last season for the Jayhawks.

    Stanley Johnson, a freshman from the University of Arizona, is a versatile scorer. At 6-7, he’s considered one of the best all-around prospects of the draft and might be available when the Heat is on the clock. Johnson averaged 13.8 points and 6.5 rebounds for the Wildcats.

    Moving down in the draft for more resources is also an option if the Heat wishes to continue its trend of building from within. Heat president Pat Riley and his team of executives and scouts have done well over the past year in identifying talent that other teams might have overlooked.

    Justin Anderson, a junior from the University of Virginia, is another intriguing prospect the Heat might consider if the team trades down.

    The 6-7 small forward arrived in Charlottesville, Virginia, as an attacking wing, but he developed into a consistent outside presence before declaring for the draft.

    Another prospect the Heat has scouted is 6-9 forward Sam Dekker, the Wisconsin junior who made a name for himself during the NCAA Tournament. Dekker’s game might fit well with the offense coach Erik Spoelstra hopes to build around point guard Goran Dragic.

    Dragic, of course, will become a free agent on July 1 after opting out of his existing contract Monday. Re-signing the coveted guard is a top priority but so is avoiding the worst possible scenario — losing Wade.

    Who should the Heat select with the No. 10 overall pick in Thursday’s NBA Draft?
    Devin BookerStanley JohnsonFrank KaminskyMyles TurnerSomeone else
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    Wings of interest

    PLAYER

    HT, WT

    YEAR

    SCHOOL

    Justise Winslow

    6-6, 225

    Freshman

    Duke

    Stanley Johnson

    6-7, 245

    Freshman

    Arizona

    Kelly Oubre Jr.

    6-7, 200

    Freshman

    Kansas

    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

    6-7, 220

    Sophomore

    Arizona

    Justin Anderson

    6-6, 228

    Junior

    Virginia

    Sam Dekker

    6-9, 230

    Junior

    Wisconsin

    NBA Draft: 7 p.m. Thursday, ESPN; Heat selections: First round (10th); Second round (40th).

    NBA Draft order (Top 10): 1. Minnesota; 2. L.A. Lakers; 3. Philadelphia; 4. New York; 5. Orlando; 6. Sacramento; 7. Denver; 8. Detroit; 9. Charlotte; 10. Miami.

 

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For nikkas thinking Durant or any "max level" player is coming so Wade should take a paycut

So Wade is supposed to play for the vet min to make the team "attractive"?

You are not getting a 100 million starting 5 in a 89 million cap. That's why the whole 2016 thing is disingenuous. Somebody is getting traded or the plan has failed, it doesn't even matter what Wade signs for, he and his agent knows that Riley is working with fuzzy math.

Bosh 24
Dragic 18
Whiteside 21

That's 63 million. What is "Durant" supposed to sign for? Is he giving us a hometown discount when his actual hometown will offer close to 30? Or is it that if we fail, just give another 20 million to some other random "star" that will be a good contract in 2018.

So you're up to 83 million.

Oh btw, still haven't accounted for Wade. Not to mention to even get to this point you have to renounce Wade's bird rights since his caphold would be more than the 6 million left. So there is no going over the cap to sign Wade. The whole "plan" is ridiculous

What is the point of sacrificing for a plan that can't work. He sacrifices and they trade somebody or let go Whiteside he still got screwed because the point of the "sacrifice" was supposed to be to keep players in the first place.

Wade can sign for 20 million or 2 cents, you're not getting another true max player with the team as constructed, so why sacrifice?

Take a look @ 2016/17 for Durant's only choice if he leaves OKC

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/wizards.jsp
 

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For nikkas thinking Durant or any "max level" player is coming so Wade should take a paycut

So Wade is supposed to play for the vet min to make the team "attractive"?

You are not getting a 100 million starting 5 in a 89 million cap. That's why the whole 2016 thing is disingenuous. Somebody is getting traded or the plan has failed, it doesn't even matter what Wade signs for, he and his agent knows that Riley is working with fuzzy math.

Bosh 24
Dragic 18
Whiteside 21

That's 63 million. What is "Durant" supposed to sign for? Is he giving us a hometown discount when his actual hometown will offer close to 30? Or is it that if we fail, just give another 20 million to some other random "star" that will be a good contract in 2018.

So you're up to 83 million.

Oh btw, still haven't accounted for Wade. Not to mention to even get to this point you have to renounce Wade's bird rights since his caphold would be more than the 6 million left. So there is no going over the cap to sign Wade. The whole "plan" is ridiculous

What is the point of sacrificing for a plan that can't work. He sacrifices and they trade somebody or let go Whiteside he still got screwed because the point of the "sacrifice" was supposed to be to keep players in the first place.

Wade can sign for 20 million or 2 cents, you're not getting another true max player with the team as constructed, so why sacrifice?

Take a look @ 2016/17 for Durant's only choice if he leaves OKC

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/wizards.jsp

Only person who thinks we are getting Durant is Pat Riley or rumor spreading writers. I think most of us are content with the core of Wade, Bosh, Dragic, and Whiteside competing for the next few years. I think the Miami's motivation behind the Wade fiasco is to save luxury tax and to sign Whiteside.
 
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yeah fukk a durant. give flash his money codamn it.

smh @ that money bosh is making tho..

Pat tried to gamble last year and we all know how it ended so play it safe now fam
 

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The only way im trading away the pick if is if all the players i want are off the board. Plain & simple.

:francis:

I love Wade but im not fukking over the franchise for 10+ years(if the rookie plays that long). For 2-3 more good/ok years of Wade. Sorry Wade. :yeshrug:
How is that fukking over the franchise for 10 years?

We've already traded a shytload of picks, might as well ride the shyt out. We can't even get both Durant and Whiteside, so we'd be back to square 1. I just don't believe in 2016.

And which rook has played that long for us? Wade and Haslem...that's it
 

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How is that fukking over the franchise for 10 years?

We've already traded a shytload of picks, might as well ride the shyt out. We can't even get both Durant and Whiteside, so we'd be back to square 1. I just don't believe in 2016.

And which rook has played that long for us? Wade and Haslem...that's it
Trading away our top 10 pick is fukking the franchise over. If we have a chance to get a franchise player & we trade it away. Just to cut money for 2 maybe 3 more good/ok years of Wade. Im sorry i just dont see that benefiting the franchise.

If you do please tell me but i dont. I love Wade he is the Heat. When did i say we could get Durant bruh? Ive been saying since day 1 that shyt wasnt happening.

& Wade was a franchise type player. Which is my point. If we have a chance to get a player that can be our next Wade. Why the fukk would you want to trade that away? :dwillhuh:

I mean pay Wade his money im all for that. But dont trade away our top 10 pick.
 

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Trading away our top 10 pick is fukking the franchise over. If we have a chance to get a franchise player & we trade it away. Just to cut money for 2 maybe 3 more good/ok years of Wade. Im sorry i just dont see that benefiting the franchise.

If you do please tell me but i dont. I love Wade he is the Heat. When did i say we could get Durant bruh? Ive been saying since day 1 that shyt wasnt happening.

& Wade was a franchise type player. Which is my point. If we have a chance to get a player that can be our next Wade. Why the fukk would you want to trade that away? :dwillhuh:

I mean pay Wade his money im all for that. But dont trade away our top 10 pick.
oh yeah, I agree with that, but it's about Micky being cheap and this 2016 bullshyt. You don't trade a top pick to shed salary, but nobody needs to be traded to get dudes their money
 

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oh yeah, I agree with that, but it's about Micky being cheap and this 2016 bullshyt. You don't trade a top pick to shed salary, but nobody needs to be traded to get dudes their money
Somebody had posted a article in the thread about us possibly trading away players & our pick. So we could pay Wade.
just saw an article on this euro player and it mentioned http://www.draftexpress.com/ which picked Booker for the Heat.

Devin Booker SG
Kentucky, Freshman





NBA Draft: Who Is Kristaps Porzingis?
The mysterious Latvian prospect is more American than you think—which may prevent him from being the next European bust

http://www.wsj.com/articles/nba-draft-who-is-kristaps-porzingis-1435163457
I swear if we draft Booker going to be hot bruh. :beli:

nikkas going crazy over the possibility that he can be the next Klay. But please tell me how good Klay was in the finals? Give me a Stan or Justise. Just dont want Booker fude is getting so much hype. :dead:
 

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Somebody had posted a article in the thread about us possibly trading away players & our pick. So we could pay Wade.

I swear if we draft Booker going to be hot bruh. :beli:

nikkas going crazy over the possibility that he can be the next Klay. But please tell me how good Klay was in the finals? Give me a Stan or Justise. Just dont want Booker fude is getting so much hype. :dead:
Devin Booker is going to be good. He's going to at least be JJ Redikk good. Always bet on Kentucky talent and work ethic. And Klay is lights out shooter and a perennial 20 point scorer in the league. What more do you want out of a 2?

Of course we'd all take Justise, but he won't be there at 10, so let that dream go. I agree with you about Stanley because he's a safer bet to be a starter, although his ceiling is lower than Booker's.

But if Stanley and WCS are gone, then Booker is the best option.
 

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Nuggets, Heat Express Interest In Eric Moreland In Trade Talks With Kings
Jun 25, 2015 1:45 PM

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The Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat have discussed deals with the Sacramento Kings involving forward Eric Moreland, league sources told RealGM.

The talks are expected to be centered on larger trade scenarios and bigger names, but Moreland — a 6-foot-10 shot blocker — intrigues the Nuggets and Heat, sources said.

Pete D’Alessandro and Mike Malone served as Moreland’s GM and head coach, respectively, this past season.

Moreland had a stellar summer league for the Kings a year ago, averaging 3.5 points, 8.8 rebounds and 2.7 blocks in 19.7 minutes per game. He appeared in three regular-season games and underwent season-ending shoulder surgery in January.

Moreland played his college basketball at Oregon State, going unselected in the 2014 NBA Draft before landing a multi-year contract with the Kings.

Do it Pat. Chalmers will love Sacremento.
 
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Devin Booker is going to be good. He's going to at least be JJ Redikk good. Always bet on Kentucky talent and work ethic. And Klay is lights out shooter and a perennial 20 point scorer in the league. What more do you want out of a 2?

Of course we'd all take Justise, but he won't be there at 10, so let that dream go. I agree with you about Stanley because he's a safer bet to be a starter, although his ceiling is lower than Booker's.

But if Stanley and WCS are gone, then Booker is the best option.
Not buying the hype with Booker. You seem all in on him & im fukkING straight on a JJ Reddikk type player. :deadmanny:

Look Klay is good yes. But just because Booker is a good three point shooter he is the next Klay? :childplease:
 
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