MIAMI Cubans Back At It Again: Pro-Trump, anti-BLM rally in Miami Lakes

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dont be fukking obtuse. you know damn well that whiteness in america has a different meaning then in latin america. in latin america you just have to be light skinned. In america you have to be anglo saxon and/or northern european descent. thats why when an italian family with money moved to a white neighborhood people used to get upset that their property value would go down

edit: also, even when you check off the racial category box in a census or applying for a job, "white" is clearly defined as NON-HISPANIC
Cuba doesn’t work like other Latin countries.. we know whose white and whose passing....

Also it’s not the 1920s anymore. I do oddly recall Ricky Ricardo on TV In the 50s having zero issues with his “Anglo” wife.
 
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Cuba doesn’t work like other Latin countries.. we know whose white and whose passing....

Also it’s not the 1920s anymore. I do oddly recall Ricky Ricardo on TV In the 50s having zero issues with his “Anglo” wife.

I Love Lucy is a fictional tv show and at the time it was considered unique because they were an interracial couple. Also, it doesnt matter what cubans think being white means in america. In America, white is clearly defined as non hispanic which means they purposefully exclude latinos from "whiteness" as a matter of government policy.
 

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Its still not clear to me why you want to pretend white people arent white cause of a language or country they were born in. They are saying they are Spanish for the exact reason that they are Spanish. And most Cubans white black or otherwise don’t have low self esteem and love being Cuban. I’m Cuban but not claiming I’m white cause I’m not. The people you are referring to are directly descended from Spaniards on both sides. That would be like you saying a person with English parents isn’t white because they were born in the US. You think something is magical about the island of Cuba?

im not saying they arent white , what i am saying is that the whites in the US see them as cubans first , Rightly or wrongly , just like how they used to view the irish ,

you know what it is , a lot of black immigrants have come from africa carribean that were middle class at home , generally you get here and it takes a backseat to race
We still identify

and it seems to me that white cubans dont wamt to identify with black cubans , i could be 100 % wrong , its just impressions

im middle class , but its not something i need to cling on to
 

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I Love Lucy is a fictional tv show and at the time it was considered unique because they were an interracial couple. Also, it doesnt matter what cubans think being white means in america. In America, white is clearly defined as non hispanic which means they purposefully exclude latinos from "whiteness" as a matter of government policy.
Uh no Hispanic is an ethnicity in the US tha should be common knowledge.
 

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Care to elaborate? In my experiences of living there, I haven't seen or heard any bullshyt. Maybe they're different in other places but in Tampa they were cool with me.
He’s a bitter old man, so expect some bias.

Not saying they arent anti black, but in general Fla latinos arent bothering black people on a physical level. They (esp cubans) and other white latinos harm black people moreso on a political level with policies, & economically (locking out of jobs). They also use classism, so ur experience will differ if ur a black proffessional versus a working class black man. But they won’t dare attack black people down here like they do in California or how the Latin Kings did in Chicago bc brehs in Fla hold their own.... so u probably had no issues hanging out and partying with them but it might be an issue if u want a job from them or want to live in their neighborhood.

Versus California where those Mexicans will actually cause physical harm to you & do the prison time for it.
 

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He’s a bitter old man, so expect some bias.

Not saying they arent anti black, but in general Fla latinos arent bothering black people on a physical level. They (esp cubans) and other white latinos harm black people moreso on a political level with policies, & economically (locking out of jobs). They also use classism, so ur experience will differ if ur a black proffessional versus a working class black man. But they won’t dare attack black people down here like they do in California or how the Latin Kings did in Chicago bc brehs in Fla hold their own.... so u probably had no issues hanging out and partying with them but it might be an issue if u want a job from them or want to live in their neighborhood.

Versus California where those Mexicans will actually cause physical harm to you & do the prison time for it.
 

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He’s a bitter old man, so expect some bias.

Not saying they arent anti black, but in general Fla latinos arent bothering black people on a physical level. They (esp cubans) and other white latinos harm black people moreso on a political level with policies, & economically (locking out of jobs). They also use classism, so ur experience will differ if ur a black proffessional versus a working class black man. But they won’t dare attack black people down here like they do in California or how the Latin Kings did in Chicago bc brehs in Fla hold their own.... so u probably had no issues hanging out and partying with them but it might be an issue if u want a job from them or want to live in their neighborhood.

Versus California where those Mexicans will actually cause physical harm to you & do the prison time for it.
Thank you for explaining. The way I am I fukk with you until you give me reason not to and they never gave me that reason yet.

I knew they were different than other Hispanic groups but I didn't know they were repping trump-set so heavy
 

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Thank you for explaining. The way I am I fukk with you until you give me reason not to and they never gave me that reason yet.

I knew they were different than other Hispanic groups but I didn't know they were repping trump-set so heavy


A lot of Hispanics are extremely anti-black we did not want to turn it to your today face.
You will meet a few that are cool but most are not.
 

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Lol@Americans actually distinguishing Hispanics from each other. Maybe in Miami and the NY, but everywhere else the masses look at these people as Mexicans. Yeah giving your average white Midwestern or southerners way to much credit. I think those from these places are the last to find out.
 

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Its still not clear to me why you want to pretend white people arent white cause of a language or country they were born in. They are saying they are Spanish for the exact reason that they are Spanish. And most Cubans white black or otherwise don’t have low self esteem and love being Cuban. I’m Cuban but not claiming I’m white cause I’m not. The people you are referring to are directly descended from Spaniards on both sides. That would be like you saying a person with English parents isn’t white because they were born in the US. You think something is magical about the island of Cuba?


My friend you do not understand the point im making

its not that they identify as white , its that they iidentify more with white americans than black cubans

you understand now ..... and i would have thought culturally they would have more in common worh a fellow countryman regardless of race
 

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Not saying they arent anti black, but in general Fla latinos arent bothering black people on a physical level. They (esp cubans) and other white latinos harm black people moreso on a political level with policies, & economically (locking out of jobs). They also use classism, so ur experience will differ if ur a black proffessional versus a working class black man. But they won’t dare attack black people down here like they do in California or how the Latin Kings did in Chicago bc brehs in Fla hold their own.... so u probably had no issues hanging out and partying with them but it might be an issue if u want a job from them or want to live in their neighborhood.

Versus California where those Mexicans will actually cause physical harm to you & do the prison time for it.

This is exactly what ive seen from my experience down here. Latinos will be cool as fukk with u on a street/party level. When it goes for upper management and levels above that, the latino community in florida practices extreme systematic racism and they see nothing wrong with it.
 

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im not saying they arent white , what i am saying is that the whites in the US see them as cubans first , Rightly or wrongly , just like how they used to view the irish ,

you know what it is , a lot of black immigrants have come from africa carribean that were middle class at home , generally you get here and it takes a backseat to race
We still identify

and it seems to me that white cubans dont wamt to identify with black cubans , i could be 100 % wrong , its just impressions

im middle class , but its not something i need to cling on to
Just like whites in Cuba see them as Americans first.....:yeshrug:

When you say “don’t identify with black Cubans” what is it that you mean exactly? Blacks and whites Cubans are so close and intermingled I can’t even begin to understand what you are talking about. Do Cubans see skin tone yes, do Cubans think black Cubans as a separate cultural group, NO! The relations are extremely close to the point there really is no distinction. It’s not like the US at all...

i know why you could think that based on what I see in media. But it’s not as black and white as it seems. Most of the Cubans I know in Florida a lot being younger, none of the support Trump. Not one person I ever met in Cuba likes Trump and most love Obama. White black whatever...
 
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