Mexicos Red Headed Step Child vs The Mexican Hero - Canelo v Chavez Jr May 6th HBO PPV
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he just playin' the part man..
MrWestGrand
The Negotiator
Chavez Jr has a good chance of taking Canelo into deep waters and drowning him. Canelo likes to fight in spurts, and has had stamina issues in the past. JCCjr has the size, and enough power to walk Canelo down and break him down if he's committed to winning this fight by any means. Canelos been in some high profile fights, but can he last a war of attrition?
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
No zombies over here 
Memo goin have Mexican hero at 183 Saturday night
AND he growing out the mutton chops
Canelo stans
Memo goin have Mexican hero at 183 Saturday night
AND he growing out the mutton chops
Canelo stans
Only on the coli could a thread between two mexican fighters get racial 
I'm getting pumped for this shyt
I'm getting pumped for this shyt
Stinky Diver
attitude as bad as his odor
Thread is fantastic. Keep beefing with each other till tomorrow night.
what time is the weigh-in for this shyt anyways?
Chavez Can Correct 13 Years of Inconsistency, Irresponsibility In One Night
By Keith Idec
LAS VEGAS – Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. isn’t here because anyone on Canelo Alvarez’s team honestly thinks Chavez can win.
Promoter Oscar De La Hoya, matchmaker Eric Gomez, co-trainers Eddy Reynoso and Jose “Chepo” Reynoso, and Alvarez himself chose Chavez because they think he’s low-risk, high-reward work that won’t threaten Alvarez’s prominent position within the brutal boxing business. They also know their HBO Pay-Per-View main event is extremely meaningful among boxing-loving Mexicans, will sell reasonably well even in a damaged market ravaged by piracy and, perhaps most important, it kept Alvarez away from Gennady Golovkin for another six-plus months.
Golden Boy Promotions’ plan was to disguise an enigmatic ex-champion as a true threat to the company’s cash cow because he’s four inches taller and likely will out-weigh Alvarez by 15-plus pounds once their 12-round bout begins late Saturday night at T-Mobile Arena.
Odds-makers obviously didn’t buy it because Alvarez (48-1-1, 34 KOs), who agreed to a career-high catch weight of 164½ pounds, remained more than a 6-1 favorite over Chavez at MGM Grand’s sports book on Thursday night. Otherwise, though, mission accomplished.
The 31-year-old Chavez (50-2-1, 32 KOs, 1 NC) hasn’t been in a big fight in nearly five years, not since he waited 11-plus rounds before he tried to accomplish anything against Sergio Martinez in their middleweight title fight. It’s been even longer since Chavez beat a ranked contender (Andy Lee in June 2012).
That hasn’t stopped them from transforming what appears to be a mismatch into an enormous event.
More than 20,000 seats at T-Mobile Arena sold out in less than two weeks. Closed-circuit tickets that cost more than a pay-per-view purchase are selling so fast they’ve opened more locations this week in Las Vegas.
And even in an age when people proudly steal pay-per-view events in various ways, Alvarez-Chavez should eclipse 500,000 buys in the United States. That’s big business for a fight one clearly could argue shouldn’t have been made.
Then again, none of that matters to Chavez. Nor should it.
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For the besmirched son of Mexico’s most beloved boxer, Saturday night represents one last opportunity to make everything right. It’s Chavez chance to make Mexicans, and maybe even his own father, respect him again.
Chavez could knock out Alvarez in the first round, and he still couldn’t exceed the affection Mexicans have for his famous father. But that’s not at all the point.
As much as everything about Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. seems to become about Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., Saturday night really is about an underachieving boxer becoming more than someone infamous for wasting talent.
By upsetting Alvarez, Chavez can knock off the rival that took his place as their struggling country’s next boxing superstar, a chance Chavez squandered by lacking the required discipline and good sense necessary for sustained success. Chavez can erase so many mistakes from the minds of largely unforgiving fight fans by overachieving on a night designed to make a more popular opponent look good.
The failed marijuana test.
Getting popped for using a diuretic.
All the training camp calamities.
The unprofessional power play prior to the first Bryan Vera fight, for which the weight limit was switched on short notice because Chavez couldn’t do his job.
Quitting on his stool against Andrzej Fonfara.
That’s how huge this opportunity is for Chavez. In one night, Chavez can correct quite a lengthy list of wrongs.
Naturally, no matter what happens Saturday night, not everyone will overlook the seemingly spoiled son of a legend squandering so much of his physical prime. But Chavez recognizes that this is a potentially legacy-changing platform, an opportunity he couldn’t have predicted he’d secure this time last year because he and Alvarez are usually so far apart in weight.
“I feel like it’s my last opportunity,” Chavez said, “and I’m gonna take advantage of it and do the best I can.”
Angel Heredia, Chavez’s strength and conditioning coach, believes Chavez’s best will be better than we’ve come to expect in recent years because of his new trainer. Chavez, in perhaps his greatest professional display of maturity, hired Iganacio “Nacho” Beristain because he knew the legendary trainer wouldn’t allow him to slack off during training.
The demanding Beristain, perhaps Mexico’s most accomplished trainer, made several technical adjustments during their first training camp together in a secluded Mexican mountain range. Most of those improvements pertain to tightening Chavez’s defense, so that he no longer leads with his face and keeps his hands down, and combination punching.
By being in much better physical condition than usual, throwing combinations will come easier to Chavez, too. The 6-feet-1 Chavez’s size advantage also could become more of a factor than Team Alvarez anticipates if Chavez’s stamina enables him to be effective later in the fight.
There’s no denying, of course, that Alvarez is a better boxer, has beaten a much higher level of opposition and has displayed an iron chin during a celebrated career that began when he was just 15 years old.
Alvarez’s advantages aside, if Chavez can rehydrate and regain his strength as effectively as Heredia promises following Friday’s weigh-in, Alvarez could encounter a much more imposing opponent Saturday night than the handicappers have led us to believe. Then this will amount to much more than a glorified, overpriced tune-up.
Chavez claims that’s a given, if for no other reason than this is one of the biggest all-Mexican matches in boxing history. More than 50 million people are expected to watch Alvarez-Chavez on free TV in their homeland and a committed Chavez knows he can’t allow Alvarez to embarrass him on the biggest stage of his 13-year pro career.
“I do feel that this is the biggest fight of my career,” Chavez said, “just because it’s a big event and who I’m fighting and because of the opportunity.”
He won’t admit it, but it’s also an opportunity for his family to exact some revenge against De La Hoya and Alvarez.
“The Golden Boy” admits it was difficult to stop the elder Chavez twice when De La Hoya was a blossoming superstar in the late 1990s, and the retired six-division champion still refers to Chavez as his “idol.” De La Hoya still became boxing’s biggest non-heavyweight star of his generation partially at Chavez’s expense.
Nearly 20 years later, the younger Chavez can severely damage De La Hoya’s promotional company by beating the fighter it so heavily relies upon to generate revenue. If he upsets Alvarez, Chavez would find himself in position to earn paydays comparable to his $6 million guarantee for Saturday night.
After failing so many times to make more of his career, it’s a potentially legacy-changing chance Chavez can’t afford to waste.
im sure jr will make weight by stripping down to his birthday suit (and possible scale fukkery)..too much money to miss weight by anything less than a pound or 2
Weigh in is at 5pm et.
I dont think he will miss weight either...Im just wondering about the rehydration process
((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL
RIP MR. SMOKE
the more julio rehydrates the longer and more brutal the beatdown's gonna beWeigh in is at 5pm et.
I dont think he will miss weight either...Im just wondering about the rehydration process
.......he's getting lit up regardless
fcuk it..Im rooting for the Cheesesteak Chavez.
This fight to me is about how good is JCCjr really? Especially when motivated. He has the physical advantages. I give him a decent chance. I am also shamefully rooting for him. He isnt the better fighter thats for sure, but I dont see them on different levels. If JCCjr can mix in good boxing (he has some skills) with brawling/bullying he can win. He cant just do one though. He cant just box or just brawl.
the more julio rehydrates the longer and more brutal the beatdown's gonna be
Gonna be a larger version of Angulo, but the same azz whoopin.
edit post: I'm rooting for Julio though
