Men that are feminist are more likely to be perceived as weak, feminine, and gay, even by women

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What human being doesn't value security? You urself values security, you ain't protecting yourself either you rely on the police and government to do that for you.

You don't go out to hunt or build nations or whatever else shyt you're gonna subscribe to all men instead of the small handful of great people who actually did it

Also this whole nonsense about men requiring respect is false. We have entire histories and histories of cultures were the people were oppressed and openly disrespected by the dominate society for centuries. It happens til this day and I do not see that supposed requiring of respect. People literally running up in communities and countries fukking the women and buying up the land. Where is the demand for respect?

Also in the case of Spartan women. Their money protected them not the men. Money is what makes this planet go around and handful of great people.

Now show me how the average man is providing security? If I wanted to get to anybody nothing is going to stop that, especially some perceived security that all men in society is providing to the entire community

Are you even secure rn? Can you guarantee you can secure urself, ur home and everybody in ur home?
Does every woman or man you encounter give ur respect?
Sounds like you fail to meet the previous standards of manhood so you wanna lower the bar to your level breh.
 

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Relatively speaking, comparing men to women

- Women value and seek security from their man far more often than the reverse, this is fact.
- Men are far more likely to risk their lives for another human being than a woman, this is fact
- A woman is more likely to seek a partner who can physically protect them compared to a man seeking the same from a woman, this is fact
- A woman is far more likely to marry for financial security than a man, this is fact

for your first 2 points. that isnt true, they seek it from their community. You have such a indivualistic view of human life that you really think women only seek protection from some random man she marries? What happens when she needs protection from her husband? What if her parents arranged the marriage?
Men Die for men all the time. What do you think being in the military or being in a gang is? its dying for other men. Men will die for who they are loyal too. That brother in chicago who daughter got killed said himself, he wouldnt die for his daughter but he will die for his guys. That sentiment isnt in the minority either.

I have never called the police in my entire life. I have 2 guns in my household, 5 security cameras, and an active alarm system. I protect my wife. If someone comes in my house, i'm killing them, i'm not relying on the police or the government to save me. So miss me with all that projection, we aint the same.
You are not superman. If somebody wanted to get you or anybody in your household they can. You cannot protect your home or yourself because all it takes is enough effort from somebody who is willing and able to go to those lengths. Those are deterrents and not magical powers that protect you.

But I do exactly that, I do the modern day equivalent. I provide the roof over my wifes head. I provide the food on her table. I provided the clothes on her back. I provide the transportation to get her from point A to B. And when I have children, I will the one responsibility for them, and I may not build a nation but I am the patriarch of my family and will continue to be so. That's what a head of the household does.
What happens if you lose your ability to work a regular job? You do not do the modern equivalent. Let your money or job become inaccessible. You nor me not providing shyt.

Sparta was a nation constantly at war. Their financial security was based upon their nation being defended. Look at any nation that has fallen in war and you will see the collapse of their economy. Any nation. If you don't understand how Men fighting the war provided stability and security for the women, then I don't even know why you brought up Sparta to begin with...

And its not just financial. When a nation falls (especially back then), the men are killed and the women and children are taken as captives. You can even argue that men fighting wars was far more a sign of securing women than today, given the changes in innovation and mixed gender armies.
Most wars were fought over lands and resources not for protecting women :dahell:
Political aspirations rarely include the sanctity of women :dead:
nikka using ghengis Khan examples of killing men to make it seem it was about conquering the people :dead:
Why would any military leader kill half the populous? unless he was looking for living space it would have been 100 times more practical to take them as slaves.

The romans nor other great conquering empires never killed the men. They assimilated or enslaved them. It's not practical to kill the men and boys lmaooo.

The wealthy women of sparta were rich because the men they married died and they received all their wealth. It built up over generations till the women had the most money and the power.
The average man (not some bodybuilder, or boxer) STILL provides security for his woman. If someone runs up on a couple, the man is EXPECTED to defend his girl. Ask any woman on this board in your entire life that you've met what happens if she is in bed with her husband, and a they hear a sound at 3am. How many tell you that tell their husband to stay in bed while they go confront the intruder. Now you're just being obtuse breh. You acting like the average man does not have an expectation to protect his girl? So you saying you can kill anybody you want, ok cool. But if you are going to get to someone's wife, you probably gonna have to go through the man first.

If somebody pulls a gun out on u and ur girl. There is nothing u can do. You gonna comfort her and tell her to do whatever the bad man with the guns says so y'all can live thru that situation. That is the realistic human response. Not that nonsense you talking

Relatively speaking, yes. Of course i'm not God so i dont control or foresee every outcome possible in this world. But yes I am secure, and the security provided in my household is largely provided by me, not my wife. Which is my entire point.

And yes, people do give me respect. And if they don't, I demand it. You cannot force people to give you respect, but you can make it clear that you require it and you value it. What they do with that, is on them.


Btw i'm not even going to touch on your attempted counter-point to men valuing respect. It's just a really bad counter
I know for a fact there are brehs out here in this world that would make you hit the :hubie: in front of your wife and future kids

To act like that isnt true is delusional

Also people do not give respect because you demand it. lol thats not how that works.
also ur as secure as ur career and money management allows you to be. If you go broke tomorrow what are u securing or providing?

Btw i'm not even going to touch on your attempted counter-point to men valuing respect. It's just a really bad counter
So terroist organizations aint running around Nigeria killing and raping little girls? What the men doing about it? Aint dudes flying to 3rd world countries to fukk the women and molest the kids? What the men doing about it? I see too much fukked up shyt in this world to pretend every man in this world can protect something or even himself. shyt white folks be killing our asses for 400 years and we ain't stopped it here yet.
 
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Sounds like you fail to meet the previous standards of manhood so you wanna lower the bar to your level breh.
somebody pulls a gun on you today. You're gonna do whatever he says so you can live. This is a fact. All your standards about masculinity will go out the window to save your life. If you deny this you are delusional or superman.
 

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somebody pulls a gun on you today. You're gonna do whatever he says so you can live. This is a fact. All your standards about masculinity will go out the window to save your life. If you deny this you are delusional or superman.
Everybody not you. Like I said you think everybody p*ssy like you but that’s not the case.

I’ve been around more guns and more shootouts than police.

Literally had to bury my bro last year cause he got drew down on in a robbery and did what he always said he was gonna do... not go.

If you a coward just say that, not everybody fears violence or death as much as you. I fear having to live the way most of you nikkas live way more than death or imprisonment.

“Cowards die a thousand times” you know how that goes.
 

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Everybody not you. Like I said you think everybody p*ssy like you but that’s not the case.

I’ve been around more guns and more shootouts than police.

Literally had to bury my bro last year cause he got drew down on in a robbery and did what he always said he was gonna do... not go.

If you a coward just say that, not everybody fears violence or death as much as you. I fear having to live the way most of you nikkas live way more than death or imprisonment.

“Cowards die a thousand times” you know how that goes.
aite you a bad nikka :ehh:

But when dude kills you for being a tough nikka. you still failed to protect yourself and the people around you. What good is that mindset when you gone?
 

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aite you a bad nikka :ehh:

But when dude kills you for being a tough nikka. you still failed to protect yourself and the people around you. What good is that mindset when you gone?
Situational awareness mean more than being tough, but that’s besides the point.

Understand that bad things can happen and do the work and prep to prevent it from happening.

That mentality is literally security in itself, versus being a man that depends on the state to protect him and his loved ones (which they do a poor job of)
 
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Jesus Christ..:heh:

Nothing you are babbling about has anything to do with women prefering non-feminist men and seeing femninism as non-masculine.

U over here talking about genghis khan, sparta, rome.... as if that has any bearing on the simple fact that women dont see feminist men as masculine.


Your line of reasoning is weird. U might as well be saying "black men dont care about respect cuz they got enslaved for 400 years"

Whatever extrapolation you are trying to make on society is weird , incorrect, and has literally nothing to do with the the OP
 

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Everybody not you. Like I said you think everybody p*ssy like you but that’s not the case.

I’ve been around more guns and more shootouts than police.

Literally had to bury my bro last year cause he got drew down on in a robbery and did what he always said he was gonna do... not go.

If you a coward just say that, not everybody fears violence or death as much as you. I fear having to live the way most of you nikkas live way more than death or imprisonment.

“Cowards die a thousand times” you know how that goes.

He is projecting hard as fukk. Which is why im leaving breh alone. He still in his boyhood way of thinking.

He hasnt found anything worth protecting yet.

He cannot fathom a man laying his life down for his mom, sister, wife, daughter.

He just young, he dont get it
 

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Jesus Christ..:heh:

Nothing you are babbling about has anything to do with women prefering non-feminist men and seeing femninism as non-masculine.

U over here talking about genghis khan, sparta, rome.... as if that has any bearing on the simple fact that women dont see feminist men as masculine.


Your line of reasoning is weird. U might as well be saying "black men dont care about respect cuz they got enslaved for 400 years"

Whatever extrapolation you are trying to make on society is weird , incorrect, and has literally nothing to do with the the OP
foo I was responding to the points you made :dahell:

You quoted me with all that other nonsense

And the point in OP is nonsense
Women are human beings and have a varied preference in what they like

I know tons of cute bytches taking care of bum men and I know too many single others with dead beat BD;s

Half these new age Gen z nikkas dress like bytches

That alone proves the op is nonsense, Alpha male
 

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He is projecting hard as fukk. Which is why im leaving breh alone. He still in his boyhood way of thinking.

He hasnt found anything worth protecting yet.

He cannot fathom a man laying his life down for his mom, sister, wife, daughter.

He just young, he dont get it
For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
 

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foo I was responding to the points you made :dahell:

You quoted me with all that other nonsense

And the point in OP is nonsense
Women are human beings and have a varied preference in what they like

I know tons of cute bytches taking care of bum men and I know too many single others with dead beat BD;s

Half these new age Gen z nikkas dress like bytches

That alone proves the op is nonsense, Alpha male

I mean.. you really weren't tho. I never brought up sparta, rome, genghis khan, nigeria, boko haram, etc. Those were all wild extrapolations by you.

Women are human beings with varied preferences, i agree... which is why the study said "more likely to" instead of "all women do x"

For every woman who is perfectly okay providing for and taking care of a bum man, there are probably 100 already planning their perfect wedding in their head and hoping to be saved.

And if you disagree you disagree... like I said Women are revealing this, not me. So you can argue with women about what women like if you want. I'm not saying women tell the truth all the time (they dont), but this is a case where they are measuring their actions, not just their words.

For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

A would rather be a dead lion than a dog that ran away while my family died before me. :yeshrug:
 
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