Men that are feminist are more likely to be perceived as weak, feminine, and gay, even by women

Prynce

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So you misunderstood what i said it seems.

I said women have always valued security, and men have always valued respect. Show me a culture where men were ok being disrespected.

Show me a culture where women did not basically live their entire lives for the sole purpose of gaining security (via marriage, childbirth, status, etc).

Lets use your sparta example. Spartan women were able get wealth, keep a family name, get educated, own property etc....

Spartan men spent all their time protecting the women and fighting wars.

That sounds like men providing women security to me... :skip:

You think a feminist man who refused to fight or sire children would have been welcomed in Spartan culture ??:skip:


A queen has been the societal figurehead of England for damn near 70 years, and it has had basically zero influence on changing the way men and women of England naturally behave towards one and another
What human being doesn't value security? You urself values security, you ain't protecting yourself either you rely on the police and government to do that for you.

You don't go out to hunt or build nations or whatever else shyt you're gonna subscribe to all men instead of the small handful of great people who actually did it

Also this whole nonsense about men requiring respect is false. We have entire histories and histories of cultures were the people were oppressed and openly disrespected by the dominate society for centuries. It happens til this day and I do not see that supposed requiring of respect. People literally running up in communities and countries fukking the women and buying up the land. Where is the demand for respect?

Also in the case of Spartan women. Their money protected them not the men. Money is what makes this planet go around and handful of great people.

Now show me how the average man is providing security? If I wanted to get to anybody nothing is going to stop that, especially some perceived security that all men in society is providing to the entire community

Are you even secure rn? Can you guarantee you can secure urself, ur home and everybody in ur home?
Does every woman or man you encounter give ur respect?
 

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This is what women don't tell you. There's nothing wrong with supporting women's rights but being an outright male feminist puts you in a box. Be yourself and secure in your masculine frame no matter what anyone leads you to believe

There's people that say masculinity and femininity are social constructs but you can't fight biology
 

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Most women don’t respect pandering men that patronize them.

Plus a lot of them dudes are secret predators and just use progressive feminism as a way to manipulate hoes.

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Male Feminist=Predator

No but here's the thing, the data actually isn't talking about those clowns.

it's talking about regular, non-predatory men that are genuinely feminists. It's saying that "In three experiments, women liked gender egalitarian men more so than men did, but both genders stigmatized them as more feminine, weak, and likely to be gay, compared with control male targets."
 

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And what the fukk have you built nikka? :stopitslime:
nothing and I'm not taking credit for what actual great people did

All this patriarchal shyt yall be talking when yall never even organized a community meeting before :dead:
 

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:whoa: chill down there

People always say this, I'm not a moron I know there are exceptions to the rule, but they are just that EXCEPTIONS, moving the way I said is by far the easiest way to deal with modern women. I'm not trying to change, or wag my finger at women, I'm just treating them the way they want to be treated (as shown through actions aka the only thing that matters from a woman, not words).

This is how I am with people I largely avoid them, but when I have to deal with them, or need something from them, you meet them on their level

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What human being doesn't value security? You urself values security, you ain't protecting yourself either you rely on the police and government to do that for you.

You don't go out to hunt or build nations or whatever else shyt you're gonna subscribe to all men instead of the small handful of great people who actually did it

Also this whole nonsense about men requiring respect is false. We have entire histories and histories of cultures were the people were oppressed and openly disrespected by the dominate society for centuries. It happens til this day and I do not see that supposed requiring of respect. People literally running up in communities and countries fukking the women and buying up the land. Where is the demand for respect?

Also in the case of Spartan women. Their money protected them not the men. Money is what makes this planet go around and handful of great people.

Now show me how the average man is providing security? If I wanted to get to anybody nothing is going to stop that, especially some perceived security that all men in society is providing to the entire community

Are you even secure rn? Can you guarantee you can secure urself, ur home and everybody in ur home?
Does every woman or man you encounter give ur respect?

Damn breh, they really did a number on you. Let me break this down point by point for you.

What human being doesn't value security? You urself values security, you ain't protecting yourself either you rely on the police and government to do that for you.


Relatively speaking, comparing men to women

- Women value and seek security from their man far more often than the reverse, this is fact.
- Men are far more likely to risk their lives for another human being than a woman, this is fact
- A woman is more likely to seek a partner who can physically protect them compared to a man seeking the same from a woman, this is fact
- A woman is far more likely to marry for financial security than a man, this is fact


You urself values security, you ain't protecting yourself either you rely on the police and government to do that for you.

I have never called the police in my entire life. I have 2 guns in my household, 5 security cameras, and an active alarm system. I protect my wife. If someone comes in my house, i'm killing them, i'm not relying on the police or the government to save me. So miss me with all that projection, we aint the same.

You don't go out to hunt or build nations or whatever else shyt you're gonna subscribe to all men instead of the small handful of great people who actually did it

But I do exactly that, I do the modern day equivalent. I provide the roof over my wifes head. I provide the food on her table. I provided the clothes on her back. I provide the transportation to get her from point A to B. And when I have children, I will the one responsibility for them, and I may not build a nation but I am the patriarch of my family and will continue to be so. That's what a head of the household does.

Also in the case of Spartan women. Their money protected them not the men. Money is what makes this planet go around and handful of great people.

Sparta was a nation constantly at war. Their financial security was based upon their nation being defended. Look at any nation that has fallen in war and you will see the collapse of their economy. Any nation. If you don't understand how Men fighting the war provided stability and security for the women, then I don't even know why you brought up Sparta to begin with...

And its not just financial. When a nation falls (especially back then), the men are killed and the women and children are taken as captives. You can even argue that men fighting wars was far more a sign of securing women than today, given the changes in innovation and mixed gender armies.

Now show me how the average man is providing security? If I wanted to get to anybody nothing is going to stop that, especially some perceived security that all men in society is providing to the entire community

The average man (not some bodybuilder, or boxer) STILL provides security for his woman. If someone runs up on a couple, the man is EXPECTED to defend his girl. Ask any woman on this board in your entire life that you've met what happens if she is in bed with her husband, and a they hear a sound at 3am. How many tell you that tell their husband to stay in bed while they go confront the intruder. Now you're just being obtuse breh. You acting like the average man does not have an expectation to protect his girl? So you saying you can kill anybody you want, ok cool. But if you are going to get to someone's wife, you probably gonna have to go through the man first.


Are you even secure rn? Can you guarantee you can secure urself, ur home and everybody in ur home?
Does every woman or man you encounter give ur respect?

Relatively speaking, yes. Of course i'm not God so i dont control or foresee every outcome possible in this world. But yes I am secure, and the security provided in my household is largely provided by me, not my wife. Which is my entire point.

And yes, people do give me respect. And if they don't, I demand it. You cannot force people to give you respect, but you can make it clear that you require it and you value it. What they do with that, is on them.


Btw i'm not even going to touch on your attempted counter-point to men valuing respect. It's just a really bad counter
 
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But feminists told me that's toxic masculinity? They told me it's ok to cry. Which on is it?

Those bytches are complete hypocrites. Anytime you see a woman(white liberals especially) on all that loud and proud feminist shyt, she is basically begging for some dikk. And if she’s all gung ho about LGBT stuff, you know she’s down for anything sexually(just make sure you wear a condom because most likely she’s been getting down with people in that community).
 

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Those bytches are complete hypocrites. Anytime you see a woman(white liberals especially) on all that loud and proud feminist shyt, she is basically begging for some dikk. And if she’s all gung ho about LGBT stuff, you know she’s down for anything sexually(just make sure you wear a condom because most likely she’s been getting down with people in that community).

Feminism for women is basically a large scale shyt test:ohhh::ohhh:

I'd be careful around them though, I imagine some are with the rape allegations.
 
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