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Embarrassed? BWS has some straight classics on it.I had big willie style on CD, then a few years later I was embarrassed that I did
And the Nas written
And whenever people try to disrespect his lyrical skills
Embarrassed? BWS has some straight classics on it.I had big willie style on CD, then a few years later I was embarrassed that I did
haven't seen it, but judging from the commercials, that little alien voiced by Kumail has to ruin this movie, right? not only does the voice acting just sound annoying, it looks like straight garbage
I had big willie style on CD, then a few years later I was embarrassed that I did
Embarrassed? BWS has some straight classics on it.
And the Nas written
And whenever people try to disrespect his lyrical skills
WWW was never a decent film, it sucked then and it sucks now. The real revisionist history is when people try to act like Will didn't have hits.This is almost as bad as when someone here tried to revise history by saying Wild Wild West was a decent movie :mjharshreality:
He had hits but lets not act like them shyts were worth listening to aside from SummertimeWWW was never a decent film, it sucked then and it sucks now. The real revisionist history is when people try to act like Will didn't have hits.
He had hits but lets not act like them shyts were worth listening to aside from Summertime
Director F. Gary Gray nearly exited as producer Walter Parkes attempted to remake the script on the fly while the studio tried to limit its own financial exposure. "The movie needed a greater reason to be," says a Sony exec.
In 2016, Sony Pictures’ top executives, including chief Tom Rothman, faced a dilemma: Should they greenlight a reboot of Men in Black or pursue a Men in Blackcrossover with a second franchise, 21 Jump Street? The stakes were high. A misstep could kill a franchise. Or two.
Initially, Sony tried to make deals for the crossover route. That plan was ambitious, requiring names such as Steven Spielberg and Walter Parkes on the Black side, and Chris Miller and Phil Lord on the Jump Street side to forgo rich producing deals. But when Jump Street producer Neal Moritz refused to compromise on his customary first-dollar pact, according to several sources with knowledge of the talks and development of both projects, the studio pivoted to the straight Men in Black reboot.
That Sony would attempt to relaunch the franchise without Will Smith was a roll of the dice. The studio was already trying to cut a deal with the megastar for Bad Boys 3 and, internally, getting the actor along with original trilogy co-star Tommy Lee Jones for a fourth MIB film was seen as both expensive and not a forward-looking proposition, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.
That choice, to relaunch the franchise with new stars, would lead to a battle between director and producer and, ultimately, a crash landing at the box office. Men in Black: International — a hoped-for relaunch of a franchise whose three previous films, released in 1997, 2002 and 2012, grossed over $1.6 billion — opened to only $30.1 million stateside. It was, if not a franchise killer, a franchise freezer.
The Smith-Jones MIB films all bowed in the low-to-mid-$50 million range. In the months prior to International's release, Sony and industry experts had given up on the pic debuting near those numbers, with some anticipating a low $30 million debut and high-end estimates coming in at $38 million. Sony was hoping to bring in a new fan base for MIB, thinking that International would be able to capitalize on Tessa Thompson and Chris Hemsworth’s combined star power following their team-up in the critically and commercially successful Marvel Studios sequel Thor: Ragnarok.
The studio was also initially high on the screenplay by Art Marcum and Matt Holloway. “The script was good,” says one insider. “You don’t attract Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson if the script isn’t good.” It’s a sentiment echoed by several insiders familiar with the development of International who spoke to THR on condition of anonymity.
But when the Sony executive overseeing the project, exec vp production David Beaubaire, exited the studio in summer 2018 and was never replaced, a tug-of-war began. Director F. Gary Gray, who helmed Straight Outta Compton and The Fate of the Furious, and Walter Parkes, the veteran producer and Spielberg confidant who helped make the original movie, clashed on the vision for the film, a source says. Parkes produced the movie with his wife and longtime business partner, Laurie MacDonald.
Early drafts of the script were described as being edgier and more timely, tying the story to the current debate surrounding immigration. At one point, a music group a la The Beatles were to be the bad guys, with four people merging into one villain. Multiple sources describe Parkes, who had final cut on the film and who had written movies such as the 1983 classic War Games and the 1992 Robert Redford thriller Sneakers, as having a heavy hand in overseeing rewrites not only during the pre-production process but during production as well.
One source says new pages arrived daily for the actors, causing a certain amount of confusion, as well as stripping away what some considered the more modern sensibilities. Thompson and Hemsworth then hired their own dialogue writers. (Both Marcum and Holloway were on set even as Parkes looked to dictate rewrites, another source notes, seconding that multiple dialogue writers served stints on set for the actors.)
Two sources say that Parkes at times also stepped in on helming duties, although no Directors Guild of America rules were said to have been violated. Gray tried to exit the production several times but was convinced to stay by the studio, a source says.
Even color-correcting was a source of contention between the director and producer. "Walter is both the arsonist and the fireman," contends an insider.
Remarkably, the post-production process was relatively smooth. There were no major reshoots and test screenings were mainly limited to friends and family on the lot, says one source. “It wasn’t a Dark Phoenix situation,” says the studio source, referring to the recent X-Men movie that faced reshoots and major retooling after principal photography had wrapped.
The studio tested two cuts — one by Gray, the other by Parkes — with the version by Parkes, who has final cut, being chosen. “The studio was an absentee landlord. They were nowhere to be found,” says one International insider, pointing to the lack of guidance from Sony over multiple disagreements that had broken out between Parkes and Gray.
What Rothman did ensure, however, was that the studio’s exposure was limited. The movie cost in the $110 million range, and the executive brought in Chinese conglomerate Tencent and several other co-financiers. The marketing and publicity budget spend was said to be on the lower side due to various tie-ins.
In the end, Men in Black: International was met with a lowly 25 percent freshness rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a B CinemaScore, indicating that audiences — those that did show up — shrugged. “The urgency to see this was never there, and the movie needed a greater reason to be,” says a Sony exec.
Yet, in these franchise-hungry days at studios, even a failure like this won't kill the franchise, executives agree. “Aliens walking among us is at its core a great idea,” this Sony exec adds. “Men in Black will be revisited again at one point, either as a series, as streaming, or as another movie.”
WhoThis is almost as bad as when someone here tried to revise history by saying Wild Wild West was a decent movie :mjharshreality: