Melle Mel defends Fat Joe while addressing who started Hip-Hop: Black Americans or Puerto Ricans, and says, "Hip-hop culture is Bronx culture."

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So you have a problem with black people claiming hip hop as ours?

I have a problem with the division.

Mel is talking about the OG purpose. So all this separation sh*t is literally against what it was made for. So Hip Hop when I was growing up was about some around the way sh*t, for the people there. Nobody said "This is ours and not theirs". Zulu was about togetherness. Not separation. We all just had something we could say the block made. I don’t want to sound corny, but we have enough division as it is. So I don’t like seeing people from outside of the community talking about what belongs to who and all that. Nobody spoke like that back in that day. Mel is right about that.
 

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Hip Hop as a culture is universal. It doesn't belong to one race. Zulu Nation made this very clear in the 80's. You can acknowledge that Black folks created it but the culture itself is universal.
BULLshyt. Hip Hop was created by black people and there's no denying that. Every time black folks create something positive it gets claimed as universal, and that's so other groups can steal it.
 

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BULLshyt. Hip Hop was created by black people and there's no denying that. Every time black folks create something positive it gets claimed as universal, and that's so other groups can steal it.

Well I'm gonna take Zulus Nation stamp over anything you say because you yourself have made zero imprint on the actual culture like Zulu Nation have. FACTS.
 

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I have a problem with the division.

Mel is talking about the OG purpose. So all this separation sh*t is literally against what it was made for. So Hip Hop when I was growing up was about some around the way sh*t, for the people there. Nobody said "This is ours and not theirs". Zulu was about togetherness. Not separation. We all just had something we could say the block made. I don’t want to sound corny, but we have enough division as it is. So I don’t like seeing people from outside of the community talking about what belongs to who and all that. Nobody spoke like that back in that day. Mel is right about that.
I have a problem with people who called it "jungle music" back in the day trying to now say they helped create it. It's just like when cacs called rock music "race music" then when it became popular they claimed ownership.
 

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Well I'm gonna take Zulus Nation stamp over anything you say because you yourself have made zero imprint on the actual culture like Zulu Nation have. FACTS.
I don't give a fukk whose word you take, because there's plenty of others that'll say different. I bet you think Microphone Check was full of lies. :mjlol:
 

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I have a problem with people who called it "jungle music" back in the day trying to now say they helped create it. It's just like when cacs called rock music "race music" then when it became popular they claimed ownership.

A lot of people had issues with Hip Hop back in the day. All races.

But I focus on the people who were there and pushing it forward. Not the haters and people that didn't f*ck with it. Hip Hop saved mad lives. So it was a crazy blessing for us. Way too big of blessing to be paying attention to the negativity it was getting back then. I look more at what it did for the people and how we got it to become the most powerful sh*t ever.
 

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I don't give a fukk whose word you take, because there's plenty of others that'll say different. I bet you think Microphone Check was full of lies. :mjlol:
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There you go making up lies again. I've said it on numerous occasions that Microphone Check was dope because I actually saw it unlike most posters on this website. Tariqs documentary making skills are elite. Were their discrepancies in Microphone Check? Yes, but I can't even discuss that with you because you never saw it.
 

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Spanish immigrants co creating hip hop in the late 60s/early 70s in the USA seems very far fetched

But I wasn't there. Let the winners tell their story, I guess. Lol
 

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fukk that nikka and the Bronx

What was later named hip hop by a serial pedophile is just colonized Black American culture.

- A nikka from North Carolina moved to the Bronx in the 60s named Mario

- he joined the Black Spades and became a warlord, while introducing them to the outside parties from back home, creating a new youth cultural movement in BRONXDALE in ‘71-72

- some tethers saw him, was inspired, took his style and added on to it with the thousands of dollars worth of equipment they stole during the ‘78 black-outs

- this allowed them to get the attention of rich young gay Jews, get placed in some early 80s b movies, and write their own folklore

- the music they all played was BLACK AMERICAN funk, soul, and R&B

- the style was all inspired by the BLACK AMERICAN hustlers that shopped at AJ Lester’s in HARLEM and hustled on forty duece

- the dances all came from the BLACK AMERICAN tradition of battling, cutting, ranking, playing the dozens, burning, aggressive creative competition in all forms

- the early flyers in the 70s say nothing about hip hop, it’s just “The Jam” “Disco”, nothing different from the FBAs in Brooklyn, Queens, and Harlem, only difference is they played ballrooms and discotheques, while the Bronx played the records outside in the park

It’s all made up bullshyt.

This is who influenced the culture of the Spades that came to be known as hip hop, who Kool Herc studied and style he copied, and who made the gang truce with Bambaataa that led to the creation of the Zulu Nation.

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All of this shyt started with weirdo online grifters who do nothing but gossip like hoes all day and y’all just want to be mad at everything.

This whole situation is just lame.

All this FBA vs ADOS or whatever is super divisive and unproductive.
Shut the fukk up.
 
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