Melle Mel defends Fat Joe while addressing who started Hip-Hop: Black Americans or Puerto Ricans, and says, "Hip-hop culture is Bronx culture."

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Slick Rick is one of the dopest MC’s, not sure if he create the style of story telling.

Dougie Fresh to my understanding did bring beatboxing to Hip Hop, at least he’s known for being the first. Other human beat boxers were out at the time, or around that time. But he was credited with being the first and nobody ever disputed that.

And yes, both have Afro-Caribbean heritage. We only found out about this recently. Before that there were just two Black guys, one from America and the other from the UK.


 

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What suggested this about Dougie Fresh? By recently I meant Dougie, not Slick Rick. Slick was part of a group the Kangol Crew, with Dana Dane.

Btw The Show was produced by Teddy Ridley.


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I still don’t know how Dougie Fresh can we be original beat boxer when Buffy predates him like three years
 

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So this is what is hip-hop has come to. Y'all can have it.
this place and the internet in general is echo chamber status

these views aint indicative of the whole pie.

leaving the culture in the hands of grifters and non scholars is irresponsible.

some of our own (lord jamar among others) were just parasites. its time we clean house
 

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I still don’t know how Dougie Fresh can we be original beat boxer when Buffy predates him like three years
The Fat boys first release was in 1984



Doug E. Fresh came out in 1984




Not sure what was going in the streets. I do know that Doug E. was way more advanced.

Old interview: “Doug E. Fresh - Interview - Old School Hip-Hop 1986”


 
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“ in the beginning, it was all nikkaz”



like I said in my OP either he was paid off or ask to clean-up that fukk shyt that Fat Joe spark
 

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The Fat boys first release was in 1984



Doug E. Fresh came out in 1984




Not sure what was going on the streets. I do know that Doug E. was way more advanced.

Old interview: “Doug E. Fresh - Interview - Old School Hip-Hop 1986”




i gots no dog in this fight on who was 1st

i just thought the Fat Boys came out in 83’
 

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this place and the internet in general is echo chamber status

these views aint indicative of the whole pie.

leaving the culture in the hands of grifters and non scholars is irresponsible.

some of our own (lord jamar among others) were just parasites. its time we clean house
Control of resources demands capital. And capital controls resources.

The problem has been that it was made an everybody thing. In the early days there was a clear distinction. Nothing wrong that everybody likes it, but when you don’t control your own resources that’s a problem.

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“Black boy, black boy turn that shyt down
You know that America don't wanna hear the sound
Of the bass drum jungle music go back to Africa
nikka I'll arrest you if you holding up traffic
I'll be damned if I listen, so cops save your breath and
Write another ticket if ya have any left and
I'm breaking ear drums while I'm breaking the law
I'm disturbing all the peace 'cause Sister Souljah said war

 
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