MCU X-men: Which characters should they use in the first movie?

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So Dark Phoenix is officially the last movie in the FOX X-men franchise. It'll be a couple years before Disney introduces the characters, but when they do, which characters do you think they should start out with? Who shouldn't they use? I'm thinking -

X-men: Start with Xavier and the original squad (Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Iceman, and Angel) and maybe Storm/Nightcrawler. Maybe do Gambit in the sequel.

IMO they should avoid using Wolverine for the first few movies. Let the memories of Hugh Jackman fade a little bit and let other characters get some shine. Wait until at least the 3rd movie before you introduce that character.


Villains: I'm thinking Sinister would be the best since he hasn't been done in a movie yet. Maybe foreshadow Apocalypse in the post-credits since he was originally the man behind Sinister int he comics.

Probably save Magneto for later since the FOX films pretty much used the character to death.
 

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X-men
Xavier/Wolverine/Cyclops/Jean/Gambit/Rogue/Storm/Beast

Villains
Magneto.

You gotta start with Mags. No one wants to see Xavier and no Mags.
 

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Magneto.

You gotta start with Mags. No one wants to see Xavier and no Mags.

Why not? :wtf:

They don't have to be joined at the hip. Besides, how many times have we already seen Xavier and Magneto have the same argument?


IMO it would be better to build up hype for the reintroduction of the character than to use him right away.
 

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So Dark Phoenix is officially the last movie in the FOX X-men franchise. It'll be a couple years before Disney introduces the characters, but when they do, which characters do you think they should start out with? Who shouldn't they use? I'm thinking -

X-men: Start with Xavier and the original squad (Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Iceman, and Angel) and maybe Storm/Nightcrawler. Maybe do Gambit in the sequel.

IMO they should avoid using Wolverine for the first few movies. Let the memories of Hugh Jackman fade a little bit and let other characters get some shine. Wait until at least the 3rd movie before you introduce that character.


Villains: I'm thinking Sinister would be the best since he hasn't been done in a movie yet. Maybe foreshadow Apocalypse in the post-credits since he was originally the man behind Sinister int he comics.

Probably save Magneto for later since the FOX films pretty much used the character to death.
X but no Mags? :wtf:
 

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I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't want Wolverine in the first movie

If we really want to lock it down...lets just have the original starting 5 and then the new class (Storm, Logan, Piotr, etc.) in the next movie

Hell lets make the post credits scene in the first one....the 1st Class of X-Men getting in a bind on Krakoa

Leading us to want to go see the 2nd movie :yeshrug:
 

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Why not? :wtf:

They don't have to be joined at the hip. Besides, how many times have we already seen Xavier and Magneto have the same argument?


IMO it would be better to build up hype for the reintroduction of the character than to use him right away.

As many times as it takes :demonic: Also the simple fact that X-men won't be their own stand alone universe makes it different this time.


I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't want Wolverine in the first movie

If we really want to lock it down...lets just have the original starting 5 and then the new class (Storm, Logan, Piotr, etc.) in the next movie

Hell lets make the post credits scene in the first one....the 1st Class of X-Men getting in a bind on Krakoa

Leading us to want to go see the 2nd movie :yeshrug:

First someone say no Mags now yall saying no Wolverine? Who raised yall?
 
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I really wanted to see this lineup (with the exception of swapping out Rachel Summers for Jean Grey). It incorporates pretty much all of the big iconic players in the Chris Claremont run of the comics which includes the most iconic stories in the X-men's canon.

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However, now that Dark Phoenix is getting really questionable reviews, I'm not so sure about revisiting the Scott/Jean relationship angle.
At this point, I think it might make more sense to write Jean Grey as a posthumous character who died before the events of the first film.
I'd like to see them base the movie off of Giant Sized X-men #1, personally. Establish that the Original 5 existed in the backstory, but have since broken up, and focus the movie on Professor X and Cyclops recruiting a new team of mutants to join the fight for Xavier's dream.

* Cyclops (dude needs to be Captain America status this time around)
* Nightcrawler
* Storm
* Colossus
* Rogue (since she's quite a bit more popular than Banshee)
* Wolverine (he should have 10-15 minutes of screentime TOPS)
* Professor X as the founder and mentor of the group


- Tease Kitty Pryde and Emma Frost for the sequel. Use Emma Frost as the love interest for Scott, since Fox has pretty much botched the Scott/Jean romance twice.

- Beast shows up as a side character who has since left the team to join the Avengers.

**Don't use Magneto as the first villain. Drop hints that he exists and maybe give him a cameo even, but don't have the heroes fight him until the second or even the third movie. He should be that villain who has a strong presence even before he officially shows up.

Use Sentinels for the first movie, since they effectively personify humanity's hatred of mutants. If Marvel's in the mood to take risks, they could go with Mr. Sinister or even use Mystique and her variation of the Brotherhood as the villains as a screw-you to Fox for trying to make her the hero just because of JLaw.

** I'd also be fine with the movie using Kitty Pryde as the viewpoint character and have an already established team with the characters mentioned above.

Unpopular opinion: I completely agree that Wolverine is done to death in the Fox movies and they need to put some respect Cyclops and Storm for once. HOWEVER, unless they're specifically aiming to make a movie about the original 5, I think Wolverine SHOULD be included. Like I've said in other threads, they need to treat Logan the way they treated Vader in Rogue One. Have him show up in a couple of scenes just to establish that he's part of the team, but keep him low key until the very end, where you get *that* one scene of Wolverine straight wilding out. Give him 10-15 minutes of screentime tops. Cyclops, Storm, and/or Kitty Pryde should be the protagonist characters that move the plot forward, not Logan. Wolverine should be more of a Han Solo type, the side character who gets a dope scene every now and again.
Some people are saying that Logan should be kept out for two or even three movies, but I think that's way too much. It's like making a whole trilogy of Justice League movies without Batman, or having a whole Ninja Turtles series with no Raphael. As overused as he is, Logan is way too iconic to get rid of completely like that.

EDIT: on a side note, Hugh Jackman isn't as irreplaceable as people think. We're already on our third Spider-man, so there's no need to wait a whole decade to recast Wolverine. What they need to do is make Logan more accurate to the comics to differentiate themselves from Jackman's version. Make Logan short, and give him a nastier attitude to match the comics. Give him an actual costume (IMO the yellow/brown suit would work best). He needs to be the X-men's Han Solo, not the the main character leading the group. Also, Scott should give Logan the hands at least once just to show us why Cyclops really is that dude.
 
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As many times as it takes :demonic: Also the simple fact that X-men won't be their own stand alone universe makes it different this time.




First someone say no Mags now yall saying no Wolverine? Who raised yall?

We just want other characters to finally get some shine. :yeshrug:

The FOX movies did Wolverine and Magneto to death.
 

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low key i don't give a shyt about X-MEN in the current MCU if it ain't a full MCU reboot to make it really feel cohesive.... just give me the early 90's x-men look/aesthetics and storyline's in their own alternate pocket universe and a crossover for secrete wars type movie down the line




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X-Men are definitely big and diverse enough to have their own universe separate from The MCU if you want to go that way

just off the top of my head

The Shi'ar Empire / The Starjammers

The Savage Lands / Ka-Zar

Mojoworld / longshot

Gambit / Thieves' Guild / The Mutant Massacre

wolverine / alpha flight

cable / bishop franchise set in the future

New Mutants / Excalibur / X-Factor

that more than a enough for a movie universe
 
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I know this is just me, but I want a longform drama like Game of Thrones for X-Men.

Yeah a movie would make more money, but if written correctly, it could be the biggest TV Show ever. If you do a TV show, you can explore so many characters and side stories. I've always wanted to see Arcade, Juggernaut, a better rendition of the Hellfire Club, The Morlocks, expound on the Sentinels...most of these characters aren't sending people to the theater, save Juggernaut, (the Sentinels and to a lesser degree the Juggernaut will always be a secondary characters in the movies) but they are all very interesting characters in their own right.

There's so much to explore there without having epic battle scenes and shyt and having it condensed to 2 hours and 20 minutes. Imagine having 8-10 episode seasons for 6-8 years...

They should have the original X-Men crew, and maybe add Storm so the whole team isn't white. Wolverine is my favorite comic character, but when I was reading the comics he wasn't a one man show.
..he honestly iirc didn't become super popular until the mid 90s. And the fact that I think Tom Hardy was born to play him, and probably won't is a travesty.

I think Magneto should there immediately, but not have him as the immediate villain. Someone said Mr. Sinister, I think that he would be a great first villain. Easy to write for, gets to the crux of who the X-Men are, and opens up so many other characters.

Coincidentally I think, ole boy from Game of Thrones would make an excellent Professor X (Jorah Mormont)
 
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X-men
Xavier/Wolverine/Cyclops/Jean/Gambit/Rogue/Storm/Beast

Needs more Nightcrawler. I'd also switch out Jean for Emma Frost since Fox already messed up the Phoenix Saga too many times. Other than that, I'm all for it.


Villains
Magneto.

You gotta start with Mags. No one wants to see Xavier and no Mags.

This is tough because other villains need some shine, but you can't drop Magneto completely because he's too much of a perfect antithesis to everything the X-men stand for.
Magneto is a GOAT-tier character, but he's also way overused. They should reference him and even give him small cameos, but I think having the heroes confront him right away would be a mistake. Start with the Sentinels or even Mr. Sinister, and let the story cook for a little bit before they get to Magneto.
 

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Needs more Nightcrawler. I'd also switch out Jean for Emma Frost since Fox already messed up the Phoenix Saga too many times. Other than that, I'm all for it.




This is tough because other villains need some shine, but you can't drop Magneto completely because he's too much of a perfect antithesis to everything the X-men stand for.
Magneto is a GOAT-tier character, but he's also way overused. They should reference him and even give him small cameos, but I think having the heroes confront him right away would be a mistake. Start with the Sentinels or even Mr. Sinister, and let the story cook for a little bit before they get to Magneto.

Bruh, there's just so many places they can go with it.

Imagine a multilayered storyline where Prof X is going thru the motions training some rowdy students, at the same time he's lobbying Congress and Senator Kelly for pro mutant legislation, meanwhile Magneto is all over the news saying we need to be separate but equal, all on CNN/Fox News and shyt...meanwhile Mr. Sinister is kidnapping mutants and experimenting on them, with Apocalypse in the cut trying to assemble his 4 horseman from the top tier mutants. Imagine a young Warren Worthington being one of them dudes, and he's some rich spoiled kid who goes through puberty and all of a sudden his parents abandon him on some you're a freak shyt...and he struggles with choosing Prof X or falling with Sinister and subsequently Apocalypse.

Season 2 could be some aftermath of Mr. Sinsters militia the Congress decides to start development on the Sentinel program to combat mutants, meanwhile Mags is getting more militant and aggressive towards humans. Maybe have him flirt with the Hellfire Club on some shyt, but him and Sebastian shaw come to blow and he breaks off and starts up the Brotherhood or the Acolytes...

shyt, Arcade himself can be a one or two off episode where maybe he was an engineer who helped Xavier design the danger room and they have a clash of interests and he goes off and creates his own death traps against the mutants.

The shyt writes itself...

I so badly want this to exist in it's own universe separate from the standard MCU because there is so many places you go with it.
 
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