MCU Cap's love for Bucky is kinda shameful

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Me and my true friends used to always fight..... then we'd squash it the next moment and keep it moving. Hell when I had roommates, we used to pull the livingroom furniture out the way and go straight UFC on each other till a tap out or damn near ko'd each other:manny:

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You call what winter soldier was doing play fighting :comeon:
 

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You call what winter soldier was doing play fighting :comeon:
Doesn't matter in the long run anyway. Killing Bucky at the end of WS doesn't save any civilians like you claiming.

I don't even think Bucky kills any civilians in CW either.

The last civilians Bucky killed to our knowledge is Iron Man's parents:wow:
 

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Doesn't matter in the long run anyway. Killing Bucky at the end of WS doesn't save any civilians like you claiming.

I don't even think Bucky kills any civilians in CW either.

The last civilians Bucky killed to our knowledge is Iron Man's parents:wow:

If you go back and read my posts I already said it’s not about cap killing winter soldier.

He doesn’t have to kill winter soldier, but refusing to fight and defend himself against what could be a fatal attack is retarded.

no one has yet to offer up a logical reason as to why cap is better off and/or justified by not defending himself and risking death.
 

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If you go back and read my posts I already said it’s not about cap killing winter soldier.

He doesn’t have to kill winter soldier, but refusing to fight and defend himself against what could be a fatal attack is retarded.

no one has yet to offer up a logical reason as to why cap is better off and/or justified by not defending himself and risking death.
Because he had been fighting Bucky all movie and that wasn't working. So he tried something new.
 

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Doesn't matter in the long run anyway. Killing Bucky at the end of WS doesn't save any civilians like you claiming.

I don't even think Bucky kills any civilians in CW either.

The last civilians Bucky killed to our knowledge is Iron Man's parents:wow:
Technically Starks dad was a shield agent not a civilian. If you're including shield agents the last ones he killed was the ones on the helicarrier fight.
 

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Technically Starks dad was a shield agent not a civilian. If you're including shield agents the last ones he killed was the ones on the helicarrier fight.
Sheild agents ain't civilians. Folks who work in underground labs and secret government facilities should expect to get got at any opportunity. So Stark's mom was the last civilian on the list.:ohhh:
 
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When they fly to Russia to stop Zemo, they reminisce about courting women before stepping off the jet. Fine, but directly after that they show them riding an elevator in silence standing very close together. It was completely extraneous in a movie that had to use every second well. It seemed like a weird inclusion to me. I think it was a nod thing the shiping fans.








:wtf: breh I seen Civil War at least 8 times and this scene is not in there

I don't even remember a scene about them reminiscing about chics
 

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:wtf: breh I seen Civil War at least 8 times and this scene is not in there

I don't even remember a scene about them reminiscing about chics


After talking about chics in Coney Island Steve touches Bucky's soldier oh so tenderly. :dame: Then they gaze into each other's eyes in silence while riding down an elevator. Stucky shout out trust me, Marvel hitting all demographics. :lolbron:
 

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I think Shiggs means the scene when they exit the plane, they share a look before they get off:

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I have problems with Captain America's origin to begin with. I dont like Super Heroes that sought power and then got it. I prefer the ones that had no choice. They didnt seek out power, they were just born with it or shyt just happened and they rolled with it(Xmen, Spiderman,Hulk,Thor even Iron Man,etc). Captain America volunteered for an experiment to get superpowers from drinking a potion made in a lab(Tony has clowned him on this before). Nah, that never resonated with me. Thats lame. Id rather be hawkeye than that. Plus his skill set is weak and his leadership ability gets overplayed IMO.
On to the topic at hand though. yes,the shield drop at the end of winter soldier was lame af, it was weird and it didnt sit well with me and it didnt improve cap's image to me either. I get it, he's with him till the end of the line but it looks kind of selfish taking a risk like that man, sack up and put that psycho killer down and be done with it. People have made greater sacrifices. He redeemed himself in Civil war though.:wow: I aint signing shyt Tony. :picard:

EDIT: We needed the Punisher in the MCU for Cap 2. Punisher would'nt give a shyt. Cap or no Cap Bucky killed innocents. You get no 2nd chances. The Punisher would have done what was necessary.
 
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This stupid shyt reminds me of an old article i read


Sunday, August 19, 2007

Vilar's Radicalism # 10


10) Masculinity and Honor is an Artifical System designed to manipulate men.
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Thanks to women, everythingis labelled "masculine" or "effeminate," "worthy" or "unworthy." By imbuing all they do with sentimental and emotional values to such a degree that no one can remain unaffected by them, women have created for themselves a fool's paradise. Whatever they do is pointless compared with male achievements. And since they say so themselves, why should men quibble?



Of course, if men really wanted to, they could destroy this tissue of lies and replace the terms "masculine" and "effeminate" with "hard" and "easy".


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It is simple to analyse this vicious circle: women invent rules, manipulate men to obey them and so dominate the male sex. Of course, these rules in no way apply to women themselves. The male sense of honour, for example, is a system invented by women who loudly exempt themselves from it. They renounce the concept of honour and, as a result, manipulate men.



In a recent television series, "The Avengers", there was a scene in which two antagonists were facing each other across a billiard table, a pistol in front of each of them. It was agreed that to give them each an equal chance, they should count aloud up to three and then shoot. The hero, however, grabbed his pistol and fired at the count of two, thus saving his own life. He chose to remain outside the system and was therefore in a position to manipulate the other who, although in mortal danger, preferred to stick to a system approved by society rather than to use his own judgement.


Pg. 59-61

What is a Man? Certainly not masculinity or honor. Vilar will later define exactly what man is.

But it is true that everything that is 'masculine' and 'honorable' is disadvantageous to men and advantageous to women. It is 'masculine' to lift heavy objects. It is 'honorable' to always be nice to women. It is 'masculine' to join the military. It is 'honorable' to help the mother-in-law at all times.

Even though readers of "Manipulated Man" know how this is advantageous to women, I do not think it has yet been internalized that IT IS ALL FAKE. MGTOW are still talking about 'honor' and 'masculinity' as if it means something. It should be noted that Shakespeare opposed honor and blunt masculinity. The movers and shakers of the past, the philosophers, the poets, the musicians, the artists, would today be called 'unhonorable' and 'unmasculine'. But since there was no Matriarchy in that time period, you can see why people were attracted to such fields and tried to study them.

It is time to let it go. Let Honor go. Let 'Masculinity' (though not testosterone) go. The manipulation of Honor is not that Honor is being used to serve females, it is Honor itself is a female construction. Why should we 'honor' politicians? The only 'honor' that should be recognized is that band of brothers between soldiers. But is that really honor? Not really. That does not fit ribbons or medals.

Don't try to be masculine but try to be who you are. Those who embrace who they are, their soul, their passions, strive to be You Inc., will naturally be confident. It is those that strive towards masculinity, towards its images and cliches, that end up becoming the biggest wimps.

Prior to the 20th Century, male friendships and companionships (these are close friendships, NOT homosexuality) were depicted in literature and the world. It is interesting that the only way men are allowed to be 'close friends' is under 'Honor' as in old war buddies. Male friendship is savagely attacked as 'effeminate' (and now 'gay') because it does not help women in the slightest. This conditioning is so deeply rooted that sharing a two bedroom apartment with a guy, it is not uncommon for that guy to say, "Look! I am just trying to save money! I don't sleep with him or anything!" As the Internet and MGTOW is showing, male friendship is our greatest strength against Matriarchy. No wonder it is considered the most 'unhonorable' and most 'effeminate' thing ever!
 
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