Mayweather still won't want it with Manny after this fight

[Black_Jesus]

nope not this clear

Nope... Its not. Floyd cant do that to Manny.. Infact, Floyd is scared to step in the ring with Manny..

 

[gangreen]

Pac is definetely not beating Floyd currently,

It would have been competitive four years ago,

But Floyd is bigger and faster than Pac today. If Pac still had the power he possessed 4 years ago, he would have a shot.

I was impressed 4 years ago
(when he demolishing certified true welterweights like Cotto and Margarito), with Pac's punching power, with his unorthodox punching style and his ability to numerous punches at weird angles .

I thought he was definitely going to give Floyd problems. After watching his last three fights with Marquez, Rios and Bradley, he doesn't possess that power anymore... Floyd is gonna bully him now.

What Floyd does to Maidana is going to indicate what he will do with Pacquiao

 

[Black_Jesus]

Pac is definetely not beating Floyd currently,

It would have been competitive four years ago,

But Floyd is bigger and faster than Pac today. If Pac still had the power he possessed 4 years ago, he would have a shot.

I was impressed 4 years ago
(when he demolishing certified true welterweights like Cotto and Margarito), with Pac's punching power, with his unorthodox punching style and his ability to numerous punches at weird angles .

I thought he was definitely going to give Floyd problems. After watching his last three fights with Marquez, Rios and Bradley, he doesn't possess that power anymore... Floyd is gonna bully him now.

What Floyd does to Maidana is going to indicate what he will do with Pacquiao

If you think Floyd can beat Pac thats one thin g, but your reasoning behind it is bullshyt..
These are all different fighters you talking about.. Cotto and Margarito have very shytty defense... Marquez and Bradley are the opposite.. Pacquiao still has his power, why do people keep saying he doesn't?? How does Floyd fighting Maidana indicate what Floyd would do to Pac? .Pac and Maidana are stylistically two different fighters..

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

Nope... Its not. Floyd cant do that to Manny.. Infact, Floyd is scared to step in the ring with Manny..

its both of sides.....manny has had a million excuses

manny was scared of needles
the never healing cut when Floyd got his sentence pushed back
arum's temporary stadium




I could go on

 

[Black_Jesus]

its both of sides.....manny has had a million excuses

manny was scared of needles
the never healing cut when Floyd got his sentence pushed back
arum's temporary stadium




I could go on

Manny never said he was scared of needles.. EVER..

Floyd refusing to cut Pacquiao in on PPv is why the fight never happened.. not Mannys cut or the stadium people like throw in the air like its a real reason a $200 million fight didnt happen... lol Floyd stans are so pitiful

 

[gangreen]

If you think Floyd can beat Pac thats one thin g, but your reasoning behind it is bullshyt..
These are all different fighters you talking about.. Cotto and Margarito have very shytty defense... Marquez and Bradley are the opposite.. Pacquiao still has his power, why do people keep saying he doesn't?? How does Floyd fighting Maidana indicate what Floyd would do to Pac? .Pac and Maidana are stylistically two different fighters..

Maybe it is not power, but there is something different about Pac, maybe it is his aggressiveness.

Rios has a terrible defense and Pacquiao didn't put him out, but then again maybe Pac was just being more cautious after the Marquez incident.

Maidana and Pac don't have the same punching style but they are both pressure fighters, constantly throwing punches, and they both throw at weird angles. Pacquiao throws majority straights, Maidana throws majority hooks.

Maidana is bigger than Pacquiao. Pac is faster than Maidana. Floyd right now is faster than both of them and bigger than Pac. Nothing is working to Pac's advantage other than his unorthodox fighting style.


If Floyd handles the pressure from Maidana very well, Pac has no shot against Mayweather....

Just my opinion tho

 

[seemorecizzy]

Pac is definetely not beating Floyd currently,

It would have been competitive four years ago,

But Floyd is bigger and faster than Pac today. If Pac still had the power he possessed 4 years ago, he would have a shot.

I was impressed 4 years ago
(when he demolishing certified true welterweights like Cotto and Margarito), with Pac's punching power, with his unorthodox punching style and his ability to numerous punches at weird angles .

I thought he was definitely going to give Floyd problems. After watching his last three fights with Marquez, Rios and Bradley, he doesn't possess that power anymore... Floyd is gonna bully him now.

What Floyd does to Maidana is going to indicate what he will do with Pacquiao

floyd was always bigger and faster than pac
floyd was better 4 years ago then he is today
the fight wouldnt be any different than other floyd fight
manny aint good with boxers
the only difference now is that i think floyd can knock him out cause pacquaio leaves himself so open for counters and his chin as already been checked.
4 years ago i dont see floyd getting the knockout, just a 10-2 or so one sided beating
floyd doesnt even get hit the same punch twice
pacquaio way too one dimensional for a floyd
its just a horrible style clash for pacquaio
and he aint gonna get tired

 

[gangreen]

Manny never said he was scared of needles.. EVER..

Floyd refusing to cut Pacquiao in on PPv is why the fight never happened.. not Mannys cut or the stadium people like throw in the air like its a real reason a $200 million fight didnt happen... lol Floyd stans are so pitiful

Floyd actually refused to give Top Rank, a 50-50 split on the on the PPV. Floyd wanted a 60 to 40 percent cut since he thought he was the bigger name. Bob Arum was never going to go for that. The financial aspect of it, really had to do with Bob and Floyd.

You're right, Manny isn't scared of needles, but during the first negotiation of the mega fight, Pacquiao agreed to urine test and blood tests but Team Pacquiao did not want blood drawn from him so close to the fight. eventhough Floyd would undergo the same blood testing.

It threw up red flags to Mayweather, because this guy with a 300 million dollar fight on the line was hesitant about blood testing, he was also demolishing guys in the welterweight division like it was nothing when he started his career as a flyweight.

To his credit , ever since the failed Pacquiao negotiation, All of Mayweather's opponents submit to random drug testing all the way up to the night of the fight.

This drug testing situation just added onto the financial disagreements between the parties which exploded the whole negotiations for the mega fight

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

Manny never said he was scared of needles.. EVER..

Floyd refusing to cut Pacquiao in on PPv is why the fight never happened.. not Mannys cut or the stadium people like throw in the air like its a real reason a $200 million fight didnt happen... lol Floyd stans are so pitiful

your clearly a delusional pactard
Arum continues to give excuse after excuse after excuse In fact, below, you can find 99 of those excuses

1. "You can tell Floyd Mayweather that Bob Arum says he's delusional. Floyd is not the attraction. Manny is the attraction." - 06/02/09
2. "Even a 50/50 split with Mayweather is nonsense." - 5/31/09
3. "
4. "People don't want to spend money watching a defensive fighter. That's the problem." - 09/10/09
5. "The fight that should be made is Mayweather and Shane Mosley, but Mayweather won't take that fight." - 10/7/09
6. "Cotto probably beats Mayweather. I think Manny probably beats Mayweather and I think Mosley beats Mayweather." - 10/7/09
7. 
   
8. "Schaefer sent me a new draft of the contract and he says to me that it has to be at the MGM Grand and nowhere else. Why?" - 12/10/09
9. "Doctors will tell you that blood-testing is not even sure anymore and urinalysis is the state-of-the-art testing for drugs." -
10. "Mayweather knows Manny's phobia for giving blood, and he's using that to get out of the fight." - 12/23/09
11. "Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing." - 12/23/09
12. "He [Pacquiao] doesn't want to do it [give blood] when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight." - 12/23/09
13. "Nothing can possibly [be] done in the interim period that wouldn't be detected and shown by urinalysis." - 12/23/09
14. "He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken, and feels that it weakens him." - 12/23/09
15. "Manny has told me he doesn't want to be harassed." - 12/23/09
16. "
17. "He will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny's locker room." - 12/23/09
18. "The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined." - 12/23/09
19. 
    
20. "It's a very good point to point out that Manny was tested so close to the [Hatton] fight...What will Manny do? I assume he will listen to me, but I can't promise anything." - 12/30/09
21. "They made the 14 day offer and Todd sent a text message to (Pacquiao's agent) Michael Koncz in the Philippines. Five minutes later, Koncz replied and said Manny rejected that." - 01/08/10
22. "Pacquiao considered Mayweather's demand to be bullying. He is one tough Filipino and nobody is bullying Manny Pacquiao." - 01/17/10
23. "If a man is in training for the fight and you take blood from him, it weakens him for a period." - 01/21/10
24. "The nurses sometimes can't find the vein. They keep poking and poking and poking and by the time they get the blood out, you can't move your arm for 3 days or 4 days." - 01/21/10
25. "This whole idea of blood testing was, in my opinion, Floyd's way to get into Manny head and screw up Manny's concentration on the fight." - 01/21/10
26. "If you want blood testing after the fight, then you subject the fighter to the risk of infection. If you've ever been in a dressing room after a fight you know that it's not sanitized." - 01/21/10
27. "All I'm saying, right now we are holding to our position [24-day cutoff]." - 05/04/10
28. 
    
29. "Nobody has a date for anything. That's nonsense...It doesn't necessarily have to be on May 5. I mean, if Floyd wants to fight Pacquiao, maybe another date is preferrable, given the fact that Pacquiao had a serious cut in the last fight, so there's no magic in May 5 as far as we're concerned." - 12/04/11
30. "May 5 is out for us, it can't happen, because we want to explore the idea of getting a [temporary] stadium/arena up on the streets of Las Vegas that can seat 40,000." - 01/06/12
31. "In order to maximize revenues from the fight, you have to have a stadium larger than the MGM Grand which holds 16,500." - 01/11/12

 

[Black_Jesus]

Maybe it is not power, but there is something different about Pac, maybe it is his aggressiveness.

Rios has a terrible defense and Pacquiao didn't put him out, but then again maybe Pac was just being more cautious after the Marquez incident.

Maidana and Pac don't have the same punching style but they are both pressure fighters, constantly throwing punches, and they both throw at weird angles. Pacquiao throws majority straights, Maidana throws majority hooks.

Maidana is bigger than Pacquiao. Pac is faster than Maidana. Floyd right now is faster than both of them and bigger than Pac. Nothing is working to Pac's advantage other than his unorthodox fighting style.


If Floyd handles the pressure from Maidana very well, Pac has no shot against Mayweather....

Just my opinion tho

But you're stating two different things.. First you said if Pac still had power he would hav a shot.. now you're backtracking.. you're saying If Floyd handles Maidana's pressure Pac has no shot.. Do you mean both??

As far as the Rios fight.. I saw a different Rios.. We're used to seeing Rios abandon all defense and just plow forward through his opponents punches... He did not do that against Manny because he felt Pac's power and decided to hide behind his guard (while still getting pieced up and dominated) He even admitted in the post fight press conference that he didn't want to take risks because he didn't want to get ko'd.. he later claimed Manny didn't hurt him, but his face told a different story. And I believe Pac has conciously trying to avoid being overly aggressive because of what happened in the the marquez 4 fight. Now when has been overly agressive helped Mayweather's opponents lately?? I dont think its a sign of weakness or Pac falling off, I think its a sign of intelligence but people are mistaking the drop in agressivenes for Pac losing his edge

 

[gangreen]

floyd was always bigger and faster than pac
floyd was better 4 years ago then he is today
the fight wouldnt be any different than other floyd fight
manny aint good with boxers
the only difference now is that i think floyd can knock him out cause pacquaio leaves himself so open for counters and his chin as already been checked.
4 years ago i dont see floyd getting the knockout, just a 10-2 or so one sided beating
floyd doesnt even get hit the same punch twice
pacquaio way too one dimensional for a floyd
its just a horrible style clash for pacquaio
and he aint gonna get tired

Floyd is faster but that doesn't mean Pacquiao is slow.

Pacquiao is no walk in the park, because he isn't slow and he throws at angles that Floyd is not used to.

 

[Black_Jesus]

your clearly a delusional pactard
Arum continues to give excuse after excuse after excuse In fact, below, you can find 99 of those excuses

1. "You can tell Floyd Mayweather that Bob Arum says he's delusional. Floyd is not the attraction. Manny is the attraction." - 06/02/09
2. "Even a 50/50 split with Mayweather is nonsense." - 5/31/09
3. "
4. "People don't want to spend money watching a defensive fighter. That's the problem." - 09/10/09
5. "The fight that should be made is Mayweather and Shane Mosley, but Mayweather won't take that fight." - 10/7/09
6. "Cotto probably beats Mayweather. I think Manny probably beats Mayweather and I think Mosley beats Mayweather." - 10/7/09
7. 
   
8. "Schaefer sent me a new draft of the contract and he says to me that it has to be at the MGM Grand and nowhere else. Why?" - 12/10/09
9. "Doctors will tell you that blood-testing is not even sure anymore and urinalysis is the state-of-the-art testing for drugs." -
10. "Mayweather knows Manny's phobia for giving blood, and he's using that to get out of the fight." - 12/23/09
11. "Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing." - 12/23/09
12. "He [Pacquiao] doesn't want to do it [give blood] when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight." - 12/23/09
13. "Nothing can possibly [be] done in the interim period that wouldn't be detected and shown by urinalysis." - 12/23/09
14. "He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken, and feels that it weakens him." - 12/23/09
15. "Manny has told me he doesn't want to be harassed." - 12/23/09
16. "
17. "He will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny's locker room." - 12/23/09
18. "The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined." - 12/23/09
19. 
    
20. "It's a very good point to point out that Manny was tested so close to the [Hatton] fight...What will Manny do? I assume he will listen to me, but I can't promise anything." - 12/30/09
21. "They made the 14 day offer and Todd sent a text message to (Pacquiao's agent) Michael Koncz in the Philippines. Five minutes later, Koncz replied and said Manny rejected that." - 01/08/10
22. "Pacquiao considered Mayweather's demand to be bullying. He is one tough Filipino and nobody is bullying Manny Pacquiao." - 01/17/10
23. "If a man is in training for the fight and you take blood from him, it weakens him for a period." - 01/21/10
24. "The nurses sometimes can't find the vein. They keep poking and poking and poking and by the time they get the blood out, you can't move your arm for 3 days or 4 days." - 01/21/10
25. "This whole idea of blood testing was, in my opinion, Floyd's way to get into Manny head and screw up Manny's concentration on the fight." - 01/21/10
26. "If you want blood testing after the fight, then you subject the fighter to the risk of infection. If you've ever been in a dressing room after a fight you know that it's not sanitized." - 01/21/10
27. "All I'm saying, right now we are holding to our position [24-day cutoff]." - 05/04/10
28. 
    
29. "Nobody has a date for anything. That's nonsense...It doesn't necessarily have to be on May 5. I mean, if Floyd wants to fight Pacquiao, maybe another date is preferrable, given the fact that Pacquiao had a serious cut in the last fight, so there's no magic in May 5 as far as we're concerned." - 12/04/11
30. "May 5 is out for us, it can't happen, because we want to explore the idea of getting a [temporary] stadium/arena up on the streets of Las Vegas that can seat 40,000." - 01/06/12
31. "In order to maximize revenues from the fight, you have to have a stadium larger than the MGM Grand which holds 16,500." - 01/11/12

So you copied and pasted a bunch of Arum quotes.. Is there a point to all this??

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

So you copied and pasted a bunch of Arum quotes.. Is there a point to all this??[/QUOTE]

Manny never said he was scared of needles.. EVER..

Floyd refusing to cut Pacquiao in on PPv is why the fight never happened.. not Mannys cut or the stadium people like throw in the air like its a real reason a $200 million fight didnt happen... lol Floyd stans are so pitiful

act clueless when proven wrong and made to look like a total fool brehs

 

[Black_Jesus]

Floyd actually refused to give Top Rank, a 50-50 split on the on the PPV. Floyd wanted a 60 to 40 percent cut since he thought he was the bigger name. Bob Arum was never going to go for that. The financial aspect of it, really had to do with Bob and Floyd.

You're Manny isn't scared of needles, but during the first negotiation of the mega fight, Pacquiao agreed to urine test and blood tests but Team Pacquiao did not want blood drawn from him so close to the fight. eventhough Floyd would undergo the same blood testing.

It threw up red flags to Mayweather, because this guy with a 300 million dollar fight on the line was hesitant about blood testing, he was also demolishing guys in the welterweight division like it was nothing when he started his career as a flyweight.

To his credit , ever since these failed Pacquiao negotiation, All of Mayweather's opponents submit to random drug testing all the way up to the night of the fight.

This drug testing situation just added onto the financial disagreements between the parties which exploded the whole negotiations for the mega fight

But if Floyd knows Team Pac wasnt going for 60/40 split, what makes Floydie think that same fight would happen at a 100/0 ppv split.. its laughable when you think about it especially when you considered the fact they offered Floyd $50 million guaranteed purse.. A guaranteed purse hes yet to reach even up to this date.. and this was back in 2011

 

[HARLEM AL]

I think Bradley was having some success early, but the constant power shots Pacquiao was landing made him go from offensive to defensive. His calf muscle injury notwithstanding, Bradley was getting hurt and made the adjustment of backing off Pacquiao in order to survive. Pacquaio picked up the pace and kept Bradley in retreat. I still feel Pacquiao beats Mayweather, simply cuz Im convinced that the shots Pacquaio was repeatedly landing on Bradley would put Mayweather down on his ass. Mayweather cant take power shots to the face; he's not used to that. He never has taken those shots. I think when he does take them, he wont react to them that well. And the success Bradley had was due to his aggressiveness in going for the KO. Mayweather would not be that aggressive.

Please shut the fukk up