MAYWEATHER confirms rematch w/ MAIDANA on SEPT. 13 2014

[Master Teacher]

Paul Williams? He coulda fought him before that accident, but didn't. Joshua Clottey as well. But he didn't because those fights didn't make sense for him from a financial standpoint. He coulda fought Thurman or Porter already, but he didn't. Because at this point it does nothing for him! In the future, maybe, but now absolutely not.


What Ortiz and Guerrero and Maidana did is irrelevant to the topic at hand, because they're not Black. Stick to the subject at hand.

And are you trying to insinuate that Floyd woulda fought Broner if he beat Maidana


One the rise doesn't mean they're a draw you fukking idiot. They might be in the future, but we are talking about the present.




But they're not household names yet. When the time comes in the future, maybe. We talking bout the present.


Because outside of Floyd, they can't


Completely false. If you said this before Maidana you'd have a valid point. But at the moment, nah.

Your a moron man

Floyd is not fighting mexicans because their mexicans, he's fight them because their title holders you moron

If Andre Berto would have held is belt Floyd would have fought him and he would have been bigger than Guerrero

Andre Berto fell off because he's not that good, it has nothing to do with him being black

maidana isn't even mexican

Paul Williams was less known than Porter and didn't have a belt
when Floyd came back

WHY THE fukk WOULD FLOYD FIGHT JOSHUA CLOTTEY?

HE DIDN"T HAVE A TITLE

Paul Williams was close to Floyd fight he was suppose to fight Canelo and he got in the accident

if he would've won that fight Floyd we've fought him instead of Canelo

dumb ass

Bradley not being a draw as nothing to do with him being black, he's bradley the nikka has 12 KOs, and zero personality

If you look at the young guys who are in position to take over 147

you got Garcia, Broner, Thurman, Porter, 3 black guys one puerto rican not a mexican any sight, and two of them are really light weights

so what are you talking about

 

[King P]

Your a moron man

Floyd is not fighting mexicans because their mexicans, he's fight them because their title holders you moron

If Andre Berto would have held is belt Floyd would have fought him and he would have been bigger than Guerrero

Andre Berto fell off because he's not that good, it has nothing to do with him being black

maidana isn't even mexican

Paul Williams was less known than Porter and didn't have a belt
when Floyd came back

WHY THE fukk WOULD FLOYD FIGHT JOSHUA CLOTTEY?

HE DIDN"T HAVE A TITLE

Paul Williams was close to Floyd fight he was suppose to fight Canelo and he got in the accident

if he would've won that fight Floyd we've fought him instead of Canelo

dumb ass

Bradley not being a draw as nothing to do with him being black, he's bradley the nikka has 12 KOs, and zero personality

If you look at the young guys who are in position to take over 147

you got Garcia, Broner, Thurman, Porter, 3 black guys one puerto rican not a mexican any sight, and two of them are really light weights

so what are you talking about

What in the blue hell are you talking about? I didn't mention anything about Mexicans. Why the hell are you even bringing them up?

You know what, I'm not gonna run through your diluted ass post (in which you're proving my point still). So I'ma just make the main point.

Floyd doesn't fight Mexicans because they're Mexican, and he doesn't avoid Blacks because they're Black. It's because of their drawing power (or lack thereof). Part of that does indeed have to do with where they're from and their race.

I brought up Bradley before, but I'll up Bob Arum's quote...

Arum said he believed the reason that Pacquiao-Bradley II did not do as well as he had hoped was because of the lack of a Hispanic opponent.

“The absence of Mexican or Hispanic opponent hurt,” Arum said. “If you had a challenger like, for example, Marquez, the fight would do over a million buys. Tim is a great fighter but he’s not Hispanic and he we tried everything to energize the black community without that much success."

I laughed my ass off when I first read this. But it's a valid point, whether you wanna hear it or not. In North America, Latinos (especially Mexicans and Ricans) are the bread and butter when it comes to the boxing market. They're the ones going out and buying the PPvs and religiously following their fighters. Latinos (especially Mexicans and Ricans) always support their countrymen. Black Americans don't have that luxury. It's really hard to get Black American fans (casuals) behind their fighters because these days especially, they're very picky about who they root for and they don't buy PPvs like the Latinos do. It's facts. There's reasons why, but the fact of the matter is they don't sell. This isn't anything new either. it was like this back in the day. Everybody calls Sugar Ray Robinson the GOAT, but he was alot like Floyd back in the day in that he was very selective about who he fought. And he didn't fight Black fighters, because there was no money to be made. I believe he only fought 2 Black fighters.

It's not only with Black Americans. Cubans have the same problem. being that they're from Cuba they don't have the rabid fanbase to back them up, plus they don't speak English. It's not just because of where they're from, but where they're from plays a part in it.

And of those people you mentioned:

1) They are in a position to take over, but they haven't yet. Remember, we're talking about why Floyd hasn't fought any Black fighters. Thurman and Porter have potential, but they aren't there yet and there's no money to be made for that fight. If there was, Floyd would be fighting Porter this September (especially since he holds a belt).

2) Broner lost a lot of buzz after his loss. Plus Floyd's not fighting him due to their relationship, so he's irrelevant to this.

3) Garcia is Puerto Rican. Which is a reason why he's in a great position to be a star and a big draw. Americans of Rican descent (myself included) already support him. Why do you think GBP was showcasing him in PR? So that they can get the actual Ricans from the island behind him, because PR is such a big market that you're guaranteed to be a draw with that island of people behind you supporting you.

 

[Big Boss]

this could end up being like jones vs tarver 2

 

[Skip b]

But But But Mayweather paid 1.5 million

http://www.boxingscene.com/team-maidana-touch-gloves-issue-mayweather--79501


Team Maidana Will Touch Gloves Issue For Mayweather
Posted by: Salvador Rodriguez on 7/3/2014 .
>>>Click Here For Tons of More Breaking Boxing News, Articles and Insider Information<<<



By Salvador Rodriguez

Sebastián Contursi, who heads the team behind former champion Marcos Maidana, is hopeful of a deal for a September 13th rematch with Floyd Mayweather Jr. This past May, at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Maidana gave Mayweather all he could handle in a twelve round majority decision defeat. Al Haymon, who advised both Maidana and Mayweather, is handling the discussions between both sides.

One of the biggest controversies prior to the Mayweather-Maidana bout was the issue of gloves. Mayweather refused to allow Maidana to use his preferred brand of Everlast gloves. Despite the Nevada State Athletic Commission approving Maidana's choice of gloves, Mayweather refused to go forward until the Argentine star selected a different type. Contursi wants to avoid the same type of controversy arising on the eve of the fight.

"I can not say how close or how far away we are [in making a deal. The important thing now is that there is interest from both sides," said Contursi. "Hopefully things will be defined favorably in the coming days, but in big fights you know that negotiations are not easy."

"The gloves will surely be included in the negotiations as detailed as possible, but we have not even touched that subject. I do not know where the information came from that we got a million and a half dollars for Maidana to use the gloves that he used in the May fight."

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

I dont understand the point you're trying to make. So what if Everlast presented them to Floyds camp.. those gloves came from maidana camp and the original ones had been tampered with

My point is that the gloves DIDNT come from Maidana's camp- they came from the Everlast rep. Hes not from Maidana's camp, hes from Everlasts camp. If Mayweather wore Everlasts, he would have brought both of their gloves.

 

[Jello Biafra]

But But But Mayweather paid 1.5 million

http://www.boxingscene.com/team-maidana-touch-gloves-issue-mayweather--79501


Team Maidana Will Touch Gloves Issue For Mayweather
Posted by: Salvador Rodriguez on 7/3/2014 .
>>>Click Here For Tons of More Breaking Boxing News, Articles and Insider Information<<<



By Salvador Rodriguez

Sebastián Contursi, who heads the team behind former champion Marcos Maidana, is hopeful of a deal for a September 13th rematch with Floyd Mayweather Jr. This past May, at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Maidana gave Mayweather all he could handle in a twelve round majority decision defeat. Al Haymon, who advised both Maidana and Mayweather, is handling the discussions between both sides.

One of the biggest controversies prior to the Mayweather-Maidana bout was the issue of gloves. Mayweather refused to allow Maidana to use his preferred brand of Everlast gloves. Despite the Nevada State Athletic Commission approving Maidana's choice of gloves, Mayweather refused to go forward until the Argentine star selected a different type. Contursi wants to avoid the same type of controversy arising on the eve of the fight.

"I can not say how close or how far away we are [in making a deal. The important thing now is that there is interest from both sides," said Contursi. "Hopefully things will be defined favorably in the coming days, but in big fights you know that negotiations are not easy."

"The gloves will surely be included in the negotiations as detailed as possible, but we have not even touched that subject. I do not know where the information came from that we got a million and a half dollars for Maidana to use the gloves that he used in the May fight."

I wouldn't expect Maidana's camp to disclose how much they were paid (and Contursi doesn't deny anything but rather couches his words expertly) because I am sure part of the deal with Floyd is that they couldn't share that info. But Fat Dan @ ESPN is usually pretty good with his unnamed source reporting so I will continue to believe the $1.5 million payout story that he ran with.

 

[R=G]

Lol

 

[RedBull]

This thread is

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Your a moron man

Floyd is not fighting mexicans because their mexicans, he's fight them because their title holders you moron

If Andre Berto would have held is belt Floyd would have fought him and he would have been bigger than Guerrero

Andre Berto fell off because he's not that good, it has nothing to do with him being black

maidana isn't even mexican

Paul Williams was less known than Porter and didn't have a belt
when Floyd came back

WHY THE fukk WOULD FLOYD FIGHT JOSHUA CLOTTEY?

HE DIDN"T HAVE A TITLE

Paul Williams was close to Floyd fight he was suppose to fight Canelo and he got in the accident

if he would've won that fight Floyd we've fought him instead of Canelo

dumb ass

Bradley not being a draw as nothing to do with him being black, he's bradley the nikka has 12 KOs, and zero personality

If you look at the young guys who are in position to take over 147

you got Garcia, Broner, Thurman, Porter, 3 black guys one puerto rican not a mexican any sight, and two of them are really light weights

so what are you talking about

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

I wouldn't expect Maidana's camp to disclose how much they were paid (and Contursi doesn't deny anything but rather couches his words expertly) because I am sure part of the deal with Floyd is that they couldn't share that info. But Fat Dan @ ESPN is usually pretty good with his unnamed source reporting so I will continue to believe the $1.5 million payout story that he ran with.

Good call. I had to read it twice to realize he said "I don't know where the information came from", not "that information is incorrect".
Dan tends to be conservative with his information and doesn't write things until it is well confirmed. He may be off, but the info out there points to some negotiation was made to switch gloves. These guys are smart, I'm sure if Mayweather paid Maidana there is an agreement not to talk about it as well.
If someone from Mayweather or Maidana says that untrue...cool...where's the receipts?

 

[seemorecizzy]

Good call. I had to read it twice to realize he said "I don't know where the information came from", not "that information is incorrect".
Dan tends to be conservative with his information and doesn't write things until it is well confirmed. He may be off, but the info out there points to some negotiation was made to switch gloves. These guys are smart, I'm sure if Mayweather paid Maidana there is an agreement not to talk about it as well.
If someone from Mayweather or Maidana says that untrue...cool...where's the receipts?

When did dan say 1.5 mil?

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

When did dan say 1.5 mil?

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...er-jr-says-fight-marcos-maidana-again-sept-13

Maidana wanted to wear a pair or gloves that had been approved by the Nevada State Athletic Commission but Mayweather objected. The gloves were considered better gloves for a puncher and Maidana is known for his power. So the sides made a deal for Maidana to change gloves the day before the fight.

Although neither side would disclose the terms of the deal -- or even admit that there was one -- sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com that Mayweather agreed to pay Maidana an additional $1.5 million to change gloves. That doubled Maidana's official purse, which was $1.5 million on his Nevada contract. However, sources told ESPN.com that Maidana was guaranteed $4.2 million and wound up earning at least $5.7 million, including the payment for the gloves change.

 

[seemorecizzy]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...er-jr-says-fight-marcos-maidana-again-sept-13

Maidana wanted to wear a pair or gloves that had been approved by the Nevada State Athletic Commission but Mayweather objected. The gloves were considered better gloves for a puncher and Maidana is known for his power. So the sides made a deal for Maidana to change gloves the day before the fight.

Although neither side would disclose the terms of the deal -- or even admit that there was one -- sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com that Mayweather agreed to pay Maidana an additional $1.5 million to change gloves. That doubled Maidana's official purse, which was $1.5 million on his Nevada contract. However, sources told ESPN.com that Maidana was guaranteed $4.2 million and wound up earning at least $5.7 million, including the payment for the gloves change.

Thanks

I don't believe it though
1.5 million is a lot of money over gloves
Especially when maidana was initially trying to cheat
Da way team maidana was complaining about having to change the gloves after the fight didn't sound like they were given 1.5 either


Who knows, but I don't see Floyd working with them again if dat was the random for the glove switch

 

[krackdagawd]

This thread is

Breh now do you see why nikkas are the way we are around here.

Just a bunch of ass posts

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Did I jus read Paul Williams was in line for a Floyd fight if he woulda beat Canelo

Now i kno why i avoided this thread