Mayor Eric Adams: King of NY Official Thread
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I work in Bedstuy, and within 3 blocks of where I'm at they had that shooting over cold fries, and 2 months later a 70 year old women gets shot by a stray. At this point I just hear about this stuff and I'm used to it. That McDonalds was open the next day (They did shut it down for a few weeks to put a barrier to protect the employees from what I have heard, I don't go there anymore.) The number of shootings may be the same but the stories from it seem worse. What's crazy to be is that police are usually parked at a park near that McDonalds, and another one near the super market where both shooting occurred, and it took way too long for them to get there. I could think of at least 3 more shootings that made the news in the past few years.
As far as the media attention, Adams was a former police officer so I guess they thought crime would magically disappear once he got in office.
As far as the media attention, Adams was a former police officer so I guess they thought crime would magically disappear once he got in office.
Lies, damned lies and statistics @bnew
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OG tweet might have referenced shootings solely, but the fine print of the response tweet has a wider definition and is therefore using a different dataset.
Relative to the last 20 years, 2021 and 2022 are the most violent years across most cities in the nation. Blaming Adams for the media talking about crime seems similarly as misguided as when Republicans frame progressive policies like bail reform as the cause for an increase in violence. I say this as someone who is on record in this thread multiple times calling Adams a terrible, clout chasing Mayor with a remedial intelligence level.
I think he is a moderate that overtalks crime and (sub?)consciously villainizes progressive approaches to crime, but crime across the country is actually happening at a greater clip now than it has for decades. Not to say that it isn't still over-represented, but the conversation is no longer, "well actually crime has trended lower for the last 5-10 years" but has instead become "well we still are not exceeding crime in the 90s..."
FiveThirtyEight podcast had a deep dive into the intricacies of the spike in crime across the nation last year that reframed my perspective and made me more aware that yes, the media over-represents crime historically, but also yes, crime is on the rise relative to the overall trend
The good news? NYC murders plunged in August. The bad news? Almost every other major crime went up again | amNewYork
“Any level of violence in New York City – or anywhere – is unacceptable,” said Chief of Department Kenneth Corey. “We know that New York City is safer today
www.amny.com
OG tweet might have referenced shootings solely, but the fine print of the response tweet has a wider definition and is therefore using a different dataset.
Relative to the last 20 years, 2021 and 2022 are the most violent years across most cities in the nation. Blaming Adams for the media talking about crime seems similarly as misguided as when Republicans frame progressive policies like bail reform as the cause for an increase in violence. I say this as someone who is on record in this thread multiple times calling Adams a terrible, clout chasing Mayor with a remedial intelligence level.
I think he is a moderate that overtalks crime and (sub?)consciously villainizes progressive approaches to crime, but crime across the country is actually happening at a greater clip now than it has for decades. Not to say that it isn't still over-represented, but the conversation is no longer, "well actually crime has trended lower for the last 5-10 years" but has instead become "well we still are not exceeding crime in the 90s..."
FiveThirtyEight podcast had a deep dive into the intricacies of the spike in crime across the nation last year that reframed my perspective and made me more aware that yes, the media over-represents crime historically, but also yes, crime is on the rise relative to the overall trend
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ADevilYouKhow
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What Are Those Mysterious New Towers Looming Over New York’s Sidewalks? (Published 2022)
As the city upgrades to 5G wireless, the streetscape is changing. Not everyone is impressed.
Feel like they shouldn’t be on public property
What Are Those Mysterious New Towers Looming Over New York’s Sidewalks? (Published 2022)
As the city upgrades to 5G wireless, the streetscape is changing. Not everyone is impressed.www.nytimes.com
Feel like they shouldn’t be on public property
it's for the publics benefit.
ADevilYouKhow
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it's for the publics benefit.
Just think they should be on roofs or out of sight. The sidewalks are too crowded as it is.
cell phone companies pay building owners thousands of dollars a month to put cell sites on rooftops. this street access is given freely to linkNYC because the service is expected to benefit citizens. I've actually used linkNYC quite a few times when I desperately needed fast wifi.
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look at the crime that’s up tho. It’s crime of needing money. we in a pandemic where people have lost jobs and lost ability to eat, and that’s the crime that’s up in most places. The answer is give people money so they can eat, but the government and places like 538 will say we need to give them food in prison.Lies, damned lies and statistics @bnew
The good news? NYC murders plunged in August. The bad news? Almost every other major crime went up again | amNewYork
“Any level of violence in New York City – or anywhere – is unacceptable,” said Chief of Department Kenneth Corey. “We know that New York City is safer today
OG tweet might have referenced shootings solely, but the fine print of the response tweet has a wider definition and is therefore using a different dataset.
Relative to the last 20 years, 2021 and 2022 are the most violent years across most cities in the nation. Blaming Adams for the media talking about crime seems similarly as misguided as when Republicans frame progressive policies like bail reform as the cause for an increase in violence. I say this as someone who is on record in this thread multiple times calling Adams a terrible, clout chasing Mayor with a remedial intelligence level.
I think he is a moderate that overtalks crime and (sub?)consciously villainizes progressive approaches to crime, but crime across the country is actually happening at a greater clip now than it has for decades. Not to say that it isn't still over-represented, but the conversation is no longer, "well actually crime has trended lower for the last 5-10 years" but has instead become "well we still are not exceeding crime in the 90s..."
FiveThirtyEight podcast had a deep dive into the intricacies of the spike in crime across the nation last year that reframed my perspective and made me more aware that yes, the media over-represents crime historically, but also yes, crime is on the rise relative to the overall trend
not only that, income inequality stresses people which makes them ever more prone to violence. I've point out in a few threads how the lack of money appears to be the root issue in a lot of tragic news stories.
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ADevilYouKhow
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I know that. Plenty of city property around that isn’t a sidewalk where people need to walk. I only have an issue with its location not its purpose. You know?
Mayor Eric Adams might be the fall guy for New York Democrats' potential big losses next week
Democratic officials and strategists in New York tell CNN they are bracing for what could be stunning losses in the governor's race and in contests for as many as four US House seats largely in the suburbs.
amp.cnn.com
I sorta agree with the notion that Dems should have talked about crime a bit more and not try to downplay it.
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I don't think it's as simple as 'give people money so that they can eat' because in 2021/2022, the economy has more jobs available than people, and so unlike the job market during the Great Financial Recession, there are much more alternative avenues to legally put food on the table. I'm not saying that these jobs would have paid the same as a life of crime, but at what point do you hold people responsible for deciding that they'd rather stick someone up instead of work one of the millions of understaffed jobs available starting at entry level?
I'm disappointed that you tried to frame FiveThirtyEight as some type of Republican outfit instead of actually clicking on the website. Here is a blurb from a CNN article for the guest of the FiveThirtyEight podcast I shared:
mastermind
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We never recovered from the 2008 recession. The capital class did, but regular people did not.
Also, due to inflation, real wages actually dipped during the pandemic.
Real average hourly earnings down 3.6 percent over the 12 months ending June 2022 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Real average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls decreased 3.6 percent from June 2021 to June 2022. The change in real average hourly earnings combined with a decrease of 0.9 percent in the average workweek resulted in a 4.4 percent decrease in real average weekly...
www.bls.gov
I didn’t frame 538 as Republican, you did. The Democrats mid term strategy has been to fund the police too.
I am not saying crime isn’t a problem, but the solution isn’t more police.
And this doesn't negate the fact that there are alternatives available outside of gov't subsidizing private employers underpaying their workers. Progressivism is about finding solutions, not excusing people who are committing violent crimes that are ineligible for bail reform and other progressive policies that are enacted.We never recovered from the 2008 recession. The capital class did, but regular people did not.
Also, due to inflation, real wages actually dipped during the pandemic.
Real average hourly earnings down 3.6 percent over the 12 months ending June 2022 : The Economics Daily: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Real average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls decreased 3.6 percent from June 2021 to June 2022. The change in real average hourly earnings combined with a decrease of 0.9 percent in the average workweek resulted in a 4.4 percent decrease in real average weekly...
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You are insinuating that the government and FiveThirtyEight want to lock up people which in 2022 is a Republican talking point. It's not even worth responding to your claim that I made them sound Republican after I reread my statement. I think we are drifting away from a convo about facts towards a convo to see who can win the argument via misrepresenting what is being said.
I have not mentioned more police as a solution at all in this entire thread so I don't know where that is coming from. I just don't believe that all people who commit violent crimes are doing so solely because they don't know where their next meal is coming from. I can see an argument for shoplifting to put food ont the table but I can't see a valid excuse for shootings and armed robbery as acceptable alternatives in a civilized society where the economy has had a historic level of job openings. I think your perspective is doing a disservice to Democratic policies as a whole.
