Max Kellerman: GGG’s legacy needs to be reviewed

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As soon as the shyt with Ward happened, most people knew what time it was. Triple G is very good, a hall of famer for sure. Elite? At one point. Transcendent? No
That's all actual GGG fans feel about him. Dude was the best middle weight in the world and is a hall of famer. He's finished now and should retire. A great fighter. That's enough. This is the part of the sports fandom where shyt gets weird to me. Because someone is bound to quote this saying that being a HOF fighter but not one of the best boxers in the history of time somehow means you were a fraud :dwillhuh:

If he'd had got his hands on Maravilla, Cotto, or Canelo (sooner) his resume would be stronger, but the fact two passed on him entirely and the third aged him out is a feather in his cap in its own right.
 

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I think I've seen Hagler compliment GGG before..kind of odd since he never really faced anyone till Canelo and Jacobs. He lost to Jacobs but he won the Canelo fights. Even then, he's not near the Hagler level.
 

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nikka said 8 rds to 4 for Derevyanchenko, I stopped the vid right there. :mjlol:

There's no way anything objective about GGG was going to be said after that. No way you can have dude winning that many rds and will still ending up looking like the Toxic Avenger from a under the weather past it 37 year old. You can say dude won. Cool. But don't try to turn a FOTY candidate where either guy could have won into some big ass robbery. Then act like we didn't see the same fight a week earlier where a knockdown made a difference in that to.

Dude physical peak was 2012-2015 and during that time Sturm, Cotto, Martinez, Eubanks, and Canelo all didn't want it. Dude just kept defending his belts until the opps came. The higher weights didn't have a bout bigger than Canelo so dude waited it out. He didn't weight jump like Crawford is doing and still hasn't been in a 50-50, hell even 60-40 fight yet. All that division jumping is overrated if you not fighting the best or at least some threats. I'll take a Lemieux fight over fukking Postol or Horn.

GGG on the slide now of course, but he need to struggle against a jobber for me to say he done. Charlo a better match up than Andrade if he looking at big fights after his mando.
 

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That's all actual GGG fans feel about him. Dude was the best middle weight in the world and is a hall of famer. He's finished now and should retire. A great fighter. That's enough. This is the part of the sports fandom where shyt gets weird to me. Because someone is bound to quote this saying that being a HOF fighter but not one of the best boxers in the history of time somehow means you were a fraud :dwillhuh:

If he'd had got his hands on Maravilla, Cotto, or Canelo (sooner) his resume would be stronger, but the fact two passed on him entirely and the third aged him out is a feather in his cap in its own right.
Canelo beats any version of little g. That's just a fact. It's no coincidence that golovkin started looking vulnerable as soon as he started fighting good competition. It didn't have shyt to do with age. He just finally got in the ring with guys who could expose his flaws. If little g really wanted tough fights "sooner" he was already invited to come down to 154 for canelo or move up to 168 for ward. But he didn't wanna take those risks.

Little g was never willing to make any compromise to make a big fight happen. Everybody had to cater to his needs or the diva would walk away and fight another bum. He already knew he was teflon to the media. But it was only a matter of time before the truth was revealed.

Yea little g is a really good fighter. But never what he was claimed to be. He lost to Jacob's. He lost to canelo. And he lost to dervychenko. He couldn't win any of his biggest fights. In every single one he looked hesitant and unsure of himself. Maybe if he pressed on the gas and went for the kill he could have won these fights. But he decided to play it safe. The same way he played his whole career.
 

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Same ggg that was down to fight Chavez jr at 175 or whatever the fukk it was aint want no smoke w Ward at 168. All the ggg stans said was go fight kkkov, Ward did that 2x beat him and ggg still spinning his wheels at 160 hoping Canelo gives him another payday despite Canelo moving up 2 weight classes from him :camby:

The fact that Canelo who started at 147 would prob fight Ward at 175 and ggg was saying "he too much for me :mjcry: " when SOG was at supermiddle :picard:

Dude had no problem picking on smaller fighters like Brook tho or dudes ranked #79 at 154 tho :hhh:.

Dude was a good fighter and his title defenses will prob make him a shoe in at hof but his resume been looking funny in the light. No big wins Jacobs should have got that and a draw and a loss from the guy he spent his career chasing:hhh:

Wasnt dude begging Floyd for a fight for some time? Even shrinking to 150 for it too? :mjlol:
 

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Canelo beats any version of little g. That's just a fact. It's no coincidence that golovkin started looking vulnerable as soon as he started fighting good competition. It didn't have shyt to do with age. He just finally got in the ring with guys who could expose his flaws. If little g really wanted tough fights "sooner" he was already invited to come down to 154 for canelo or move up to 168 for ward. But he didn't wanna take those risks.

Little g was never willing to make any compromise to make a big fight happen. Everybody had to cater to his needs or the diva would walk away and fight another bum. He already knew he was teflon to the media. But it was only a matter of time before the truth was revealed.

Yea little g is a really good fighter. But never what he was claimed to be. He lost to Jacob's. He lost to canelo. And he lost to dervychenko. He couldn't win any of his biggest fights. In every single one he looked hesitant and unsure of himself. Maybe if he pressed on the gas and went for the kill he could have won these fights. But he decided to play it safe. The same way he played his whole career.
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Couldn’t have said it any better.. especially the bolded. Take this rep fam :wow:
 

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Wasnt dude begging Floyd for a fight for some time? Even shrinking to 150 for it too? :mjlol:

Holy shyt forgot about that :dead:

Dude was a whole clown out here. :mjlol: I may think he was overrated by the media but i always respected his skills but yeah his team and behavior were on some hoe shyt :hhh: to be fair though everyone would drop to 150 to for that Floyd bag. shyt most of the gym brehs got our ass whooped for free before matter of fact we payed a fee for our ass whooping :russ: but yeah that Floyd money different word to Narcos Maidana :wow:
 

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He and BHOP both had 20 straight title defenses, so who on GGG resume in those 20 fights measures up to these names BHOP beat...

De La Hoya
Trinidad
Joppy
Brown
Johnson
JD Jackson

a 1/4 of BHOP’s record setting title defenses obliterates GGG entire resume outside of Canelo & Jacobs.

the best win of bhops 160 run is tito trinidad..a tito who had to climb from welterweight..because i can fine comb bhop's MW resume before King ordered that tournament..but at least tito took out a MW convincingly before losing..oscar struggled with felix sturm and arguably lost the fight

lets see because the middleweight division was atrocious during bhop's 90s run

simon brown - was washed at 160 and esp by the time bhop fought him
john david jackson - was washed at 160 by the time bhop fought him
glen johnson - this is only a good win in hindsight because it was the only time he was stopped in his prime because glen lost a good amount of fights after before he caught clinton woods,montell griffin, and roy jones in their downturns at LHW and unfocused tarver to add..because glen didnt do shyt at middleweight
william joppy - :heh:..yes i dont think highly of joppy...was it the trilogy with julio cesar green or him beating up an old roberto duran that impressed you :heh:..or barely beating howard eastman :russ:

bhop's LHW run strengthened his resume overall..not his MW..the best MW he fought whooped him with ease with one hand
 

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Imagine a world where nikkas try to downplay BHop resume for a guy who only win against a top opp should have been a loss and then its a draw and loss against Canelo.

Imagine trying to downplay ATG Trinidad when Kell Brook is on the other side :russ:

glad everyone else seeing what we been saw about that overrated cac :blessed:
 
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