Matt Damon explains why the Movie scene is formulaic and mostly trash now.

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Movies started being trash when they decided to make sequels and remakes of everything.
That's basically what he was saying. Back in the day if a Movie didn't sell well in the theaters they could make it back on DVDs and cable Now with no demand streaming You have to make it in the Theaters because there's no second line market. If a Movies first wee numbers are trash it's over. Most movies premier globally at the same time so you can't try to create a buzz in the foriegn markets.

But if everyone is invested in the story or better yet it's a superhero movie that usually sells.

Even the Marvel She Universe is about trying to get women into movies that used to sell to mainly nerds.
 

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- Coming off The Deer Hunter, the director was given complete control and went bonkers, doing things like building actual towns, tearing them down and starting again, shooting 220 hours of footage and using over 200 actual horses. The budget went from $11.6 million to $44 million, a further $1.5 million was spent on marketing.

- The final cut was over 5 hours, execs told dude hell no and it had to be edited down to 3hr 39mins and then again to 2hr 29mins

- The film bombed hard body making $3.5million at the box office and was critically panned

- The studio behind the film went bankrupt and got sold to MGM

- Studio's got shook, limited the power director's once held and execs completely took over the film making process

- Studio's shifted to making films that were guaranteed to make money leading to the blockbuster era, hence why 70's and 80's cinema looks so wildly different.
Yeah sometimes those directing geniuses lost their minds.

Movies that should've been TV shows before HBO was a thing had epics that were waay too long and Complicated Once upon a Time in America was like that.

The Hero of the story brutally raped a woman.

They cut it down so much the movie hardly made sense.

 

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This was a big issue with WWE wrestlers that were getting paid on DVD sales tied up in their contract but shyt when away :wow:
 

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It's the writer's that hindered the industry. It's slim pickings and nepotism given to unworthy privileged people without a story to tell.
This. Their taking if stories and “improving” them is what ruins most stories. GOT/HOTD and even xmen 97 are a prime example of a writer having way too much power.
 

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All belly ache'n to cover up the big budget approach to commercialization of film. Reached a quality low point marker a long long time ago.

Where it was never addressed.
Plus technology caught up.

To allow the spike lee meets Matty rich guerrilla formula of major motion on a one credit card budget a reality.

Mix it with their penchant.
To mix and match anything like their precious ip's via misappropriation. That the homogenized mixture of wack puff low quality above critique sellout shyt. Became the flavor of everything. That now film has this same homogenized mix of low quality above critique style of products. Made in. Any and every product and industry. In some failed digital fraud effort to be played out y2k slang word for hot label of cool.

mix this effect and above critique mantra of everything.
Into a homogenized science.

That now anyone.
with a camera... that now is installed in wvery phone.
now commonly in the possession of every and anyone on earth.
now everyone is steve martin spiel-scese.

When making film is an actual school taught and based industry centrally at its core.

For all the ingenuity. Anyone with a cellphone camera can apply. It pales incomparison to Spielberg innovating film before film school. Plus completely fails incomparison to a film school savant as Spike lee.
Upon completion of film school in nyc.

The problem is rhe lack of real critique being genuine.

To create quality I dusty styke sway. So excellent products gain and are marketed. Whether by actor, budget, director, ip, etc.


The issue is the industry is too interactive. Which gives film houses complete autonomy to be brutal in book keeping. Which means not keeping around quality talent equal to their output. Plus not properly applying proper resources to said ip as well.

Those are the issues.

All thr other stuff is subterfuge.

Plus subterfuge. That will not be fixed.

Where rhe low brow quality and need for content. Will create a world. Similar to the one featured in the rick and morty episode on the galactic cable box.



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- Coming off The Deer Hunter, the director was given complete control and went bonkers, doing things like building actual towns, tearing them down and starting again, shooting 220 hours of footage and using over 200 actual horses. The budget went from $11.6 million to $44 million, a further $1.5 million was spent on marketing.

- The final cut was over 5 hours, execs told dude hell no and it had to be edited down to 3hr 39mins and then again to 2hr 29mins

- The film bombed hard body making $3.5million at the box office and was critically panned

- The studio behind the film went bankrupt and got sold to MGM

- Studio's got shook, limited the power director's once held and execs completely took over the film making process

- Studio's shifted to making films that were guaranteed to make money leading to the blockbuster era, hence why 70's and 80's cinema looks so wildly different.



Before cocaine got a bad rep :wow:
 

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Yeah sometimes those directing geniuses lost their minds.

Movies that should've been TV shows before HBO was a thing had epics that were waay too long and Complicated Once upon a Time in America was like that.

The Hero of the story brutally raped a woman.

They cut it down so much the movie hardly made sense.



Yup that's what he talking about. Entire genres basically died because studios determined they were no longer financially viable. Remember all the black coming of age films that used to come out every other year? Or the erotic thrillers of the 80s/90s. Now the only way you will see niche films like that is via a major young star like Zendaya or Jacob Elordi signing on.

Seems like this year a lot of different films have found success at the theater, hopefully that continues. But even now think about how many films do well and then 4-6 weeks later it's on streaming. That's insane to me.
 

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I think originality peeked in the 90’s..for everything, not just movies.
 
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