Mase Responds To Diddy's Grammy Speech(Ethers Him)

[OHSNAP!]

like i said in that original thread - those words coming from diddy just sounded hilarious to me. anyone taking him serious is an idiot or doesn't know the history of this man's business practices.
right message/wrong fukking messenger.

Some of the best shyt I read on here

 

[tuckgod]

All these Jay-Z, Diddy types are corny, pushing a black excellence image to the masses to seem a certain way but behind doors they’re just as foul

Facts

 

[tuckgod]

Mase is a hypocrite because he was shady with cam about horse and carriage, cam was robbing dip set members, Jim Jones robbed max b.


Industry shady

He was not shady with Cam about Horse and Carriage.

He was trying to show Cam how to get cash out of his budget by telling Cam to pay him to be in the video (out of his video budget) and then they would split the fee 50/50.

And this is after he had already shot the 357 video for free, for an unknown artist, while he was the biggest nikka in the game.

 

[Razzay]

Puff owned a record label, production company and publishing company. He also owned the marketing company blue flame to promote the music. Plus he had the connections in the industry for distribution and radio since his uptown days. He gave his artists the tool box they needed to make music, create a brand for themselves and reach people around the world. That doesn’t come cheap.

If you sign a contract for this one window approach and get mad after the fact then what can anyone really say? Buy beats from the hitmen, buy studio time from daddy’s house, let the marketing team design your image and brand, and shoot videos in the badboy style. All of those activities are the artists expense and that comes out of the contract in some way, it isn’t free.

If a rapper wants to sell a portion of their publishing because they wanted money at the time as they have no credit or no way to leverage their financial position then selling your publishing may be the only way to get you out a tough situation if you already spent your advance and are blowing money on women, parties, chains and crystal.

But puff has to now daddy people and tell them how to live their life too? Nah

Also puff was taking all the risk back in the 90s and when you put out something on badboy that was the Chicago bulls of rap back then you got to pay to use that system and those marketing channels.

 

[Razzay]

 

[UserNameless]

Betha ...


That man been on an Ether tour lately .

 

[WaveGang]

He was not shady with Cam about Horse and Carriage.

He was trying to show Cam how to get cash out of his budget by telling Cam to pay him to be in the video (out of his video budget) and then they would split the fee 50/50.

And this is after he had already shot the 357 video for free, for an unknown artist, while he was the biggest nikka in the game.

Who's side of the story is this...

 

[tuckgod]

Who's side of the story is this...

They’ve both said it.

Cam knew he was wrong, but Un was in his ear telling him Ma$e was foul for trying to charge him.

Young and dumb nikka shyt.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Puff didnt manipulate them, he took advantage of them being young, desperate, and impoverished. Unfortunately that is the way of the world. It takes a special person to even be able to think long term when their immediate situation is so fukked up; when you have nothing and have had nothing your whole life and your mother probably never was even able to pay rent on time, $20,000 probably feels like ten million. But when you fast forward years later and realize how much you could have or should have you are pissed and feel ripped off, especially since you know the person who offered you the 20 knew what it was REALLY worth. But is that really scumbag shyt, or is it just business??

You forgot to tad Mase thought he wouldn’t get fukked over Casue Diddy is black

 

[Damnshow]

Sean talking about unity on his way out, after all that shyt he's done to artists. Typical, wants to sweeten his end of the career now that he's set filthy rich for life. It's one of the easiest scamming schemes, once people saw how they can make big money from rap game, it was over.

Lack of unity is how rich get richer. Smarten up and get money you deserve, ain't no rich man is bringing you unity.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

100% agree.

Somebody earlier said that in business there has to be a loser.

No there doesn't. That's a bad deal and that's bad business.

A much smarter man and richer man than me once told me a good deal is a deal where both sides feel like they could have got a little more, but neither side feels like they got fukked.

That's good business.

The idea that in business one side has to win and the other has to lose is the type of business we as black people have been fighting against for years. And to do it to each other is the epitome of acting like your oppressor.

It wasn't bad deal though. Diddy did right by him and made him a famous superstar and invested in his success. You always hear about artist crying about lack of promotion and albums flopping but not with puff. Mase chose to walk away at his peak and be lazy and not record. He could have completed his first deal and contractual obligations with bad boy years ago when he was poppin and then he would have had leverage to get a better deal and ownership. That's on mase.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

It wasn't bad deal though. Diddy did right by him and made him a famous superstar and invested in his success. You always hear about artist crying about lack of promotion and albums flopping but not with puff. Mase chose to walk away at his peak and be lazy and not record. He could have completed his first deal and contractual obligations with bad boy years ago when he was poppin and then he would have had leverage to get a better deal and ownership. That's on mase.

he ran away cause he was a bytch who got 2 dudes atleast killed and left everybody to deal with the aftermath in the streets. All cause he was fukking nikkaz he was suppose to be cool with girls

 

[nightpupil]

It wasn't bad deal though. Diddy did right by him and made him a famous superstar and invested in his success. You always hear about artist crying about lack of promotion and albums flopping but not with puff. Mase chose to walk away at his peak and be lazy and not record. He could have completed his first deal and contractual obligations with bad boy years ago when he was poppin and then he would have had leverage to get a better deal and ownership. That's on mase.

Yeah cause everyone in the music business try's to always keep their publishing but he should be grateful he made him famous.lol

Slave your own brothers on contracts brehs. Then continue to do so in 2020 brehs.

 

[Razzay]

Mase is just going a Lox replay. Clearly Mase doesn’t understand his contract and what he agreed to. Diddy explained this to Angie Martinez back in the day, how puff breaks this down on the radio over the lox dispute is the exact same approach that people need to hear to fully comprehend:

Puff on hot97 interview - talking lox recording and publishing contracts

 

[Razzay]

Part 2




Puff has the power to ether mase the same way he Ethered lox back in 2005