MARVEL's The Falcon and The Winter Soldier Official Thread

[Ironman]

Finished

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I still feel bad for John walker.

Like that scene of him having to break the bad news to Lamar's parents and then the scene right after where he's looking at the poster himself saying "John Walker, cap is back"

Things were really on the up and up for him and now this.


Also, did y'all catch the scene after the credits of him making his own shield?

You’re like the only one

Battlestar’s sister was even looking at him funny because she knew he was crazy/lying

Only thing I feel bad about is him watching his homie die. That would fukk a lot of people up

And everyone caught the scene bruh... how about spoilers next time though

 

[Jello Biafra]

Breh didnt you pay to attention to Captain America and the Winter Soldier and everything that came after?




Hydra was secretly behind most of that shyt

I'm talking about in stories about Bradley specifically. If they retconned that stuff into the Cap and Falcon books later then I missed it.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Yep and even then he took his wings. Walker seems stronger than cap tbh

He’s not stronger but is a better fighter

He was already reading off the charts in intellect, military strategy, been through wars, and was at peak fitness shape especially in the field and with using the shield. Cap wasn’t doing any of that at first

He was already whipping the shield around and taking solid hits from super soldiers before the serum.

The serum just enhanced all of that which made him more dangerous. Bucky was holding back (he had a different but OG serum as well with assassination training and a vibranium arm) and Cap had the better serum than but none of Walkers original training (he just had heart at first).

Sam the only one that shouldn’t have been in the room BUT Sam got better with the shield (not sure how much time passed/that it took) and the Vibranium suit is definitely going to even his playing field especially with his flight capabilities (dude better have a vibranium mask too).

 

[Tasha And]

Isaiah basically called that man a c00n

"No self respecting black man"

 

[Jello Biafra]

He’s not stronger but is a better fighter

He was already reading off the charts in intellect, military strategy, been through wars, and was at peak fitness shape especially in the field and with using the shield. Cap wasn’t doing any of that at first

He was already whipping the shield around and taking solid hits from super soldiers before the serum.

The serum just enhanced all of that which made him more dangerous. Bucky was holding back (he had a different but OG serum as well with assassination training and a vibranium arm) and Cap had the better serum than but none of Walkers original training (he just had heart at first).

Sam the only one that shouldn’t have been in the room BUT Sam got better with the shield (not sure how much time passed/that it took) and the Vibranium suit is definitely going to even his playing field especially with his flight capabilities (dude better have a vibranium mask too).

If they are sticking to the comics as inspiration than Walker (and all the Power Broker super soldiers) is stronger than Captain America.

In the comics all the people who got their powers from The Power Broker were floating around between Luke Cage and The Thing in terms of their super-strength.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Random but the chick who’s Sam’s sister looks like a cross between Leslie Jones and Jennifer Hudson

She gotta nice little shape and looks like marriage material lowkey.

 

[Neuromancer]

Breh didnt you pay to attention to Captain America and the Winter Soldier and everything that came after?




Hydra was secretly behind most of that shyt

Guy said in the comics. MCU isn't the comics

 

[O.T.I.S.]

You guys are just forgetting all of Steves feats of strength. Your last impression of him is being overpowered by Thanos who even made Thor and Hulk look weak.
Steve Lifted a motorcycle over his head in first avenger,

tossed it at people while doing a summersault, bent metal bars and threw people like they weighed nothing. all In the first movie.

But every movie since he was usually facing people stronger than supersoldiers or actual super soldiers. John walker hasn't done anything yet that i feel is stronger than anything cap did.

They had to make Walker much more of a threat thats all... Especially to Bucky

People even forget this

even Bucky was like

 

[JerseyBoy23]

Maybe it's because they dropped the pandemic storyline but something seems off about the Flag Smashers. First, we saw what the world looked like at the beginning of Endgame and it didn't look that great.

Second, you'd think Blip returners would have a harder time than Blip survivors. They lost five years of their lives while the world moved on.

 

[Neuromancer]

I'm talking about in stories about Bradley specifically. If they retconned that stuff into the Cap and Falcon books later then I missed it.

They didn't retcon it.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

If they are sticking to the comics as inspiration than Walker (and all the Power Broker super soldiers) is stronger than Captain America.

In the comics all the people who got their powers from The Power Broker were floating around between Luke Cage and The Thing in terms of their super-strength.

Well they obviously aren’t since the super soldiers in the show aren’t really even fukking with a Bucky thats holding his shyt back from %100.

And Falcon is not breaking Luke Cage or The Things arm either

 

[SunZoo]

He’s not stronger but is a better fighter

Of course they're not obligated to be 100% comic accurate but if they were, it would probably be the other way around.

John is supposed to be stronger than Steve. And even if they were a 1:1 comparison skill wise, Steve has a TON of more experience that would probably give him every other edge outside of raw strength and would be the only thing keeping him from taking a straight up L against Walker.

Like @Json said the serum Steve took is the most stable. The other variants might be able to create more powerful subjects but come with side effects and deficiencies.

Now Bucky isn't 100% obviously but even if he was he ain't about to overpower John. If he were to be activated the only advantage he'd gain is the lack of inhibition to go for the kill straight away.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Of course they're not obligated to be 100% comic accurate but if they were, it would probably be the other way around.

John is supposed to be stronger than Steve. And even if they were a 1:1 comparison skill wise, Steve has a TON of more experience that would probably give every other edge outside of raw strength and would be the only think keeping him from taking a straight up L against him.

Like @Json said the serum Steve took is the most stable. The other variants might be able to create more powerful subjects but come with side effects and deficiencies.

Well like I said above, I don’t think he is but not by much if at all.

I forget where and who I read it from online, but basically, John in the MCU is as powerful as he is because of his already exemplary training and experience as well as being in at a high level physical peak when taking the serum (in which Steve was not).

The serum is said to have increased what you already have, correct? Well this was a knockoff

But I’m not seeing Falcon break Steves arm. So stronger, I don’t think so. More dangerous... probably. Less mentally stable... definitely

 

[O.Red]

Elaine belongs on the list of GOAT white woman aging

60 years old