MARVEL's The Falcon and The Winter Soldier Official Thread

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Can JJ even be considered Canon anymore?

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Can JJ even be considered Canon anymore?

If she's making an appearance in She Hulk I would have to say the Netflix series will end up being official cannon.

Much easier to integrate them than AOS. And all you gotta do is make the OG series' the origins, pick up where the characters are now after the blip.

Side note: I want them to bring Mike Collier back for Luke Cage, but an alternate reality where Jerome from Snowfall got that role :whoo:
 

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Evolution doesn't = intrinsically better. But it is an evolution of the serum as per the person who made it. .Obviously it's derived from the Erskine formula that Steve took but there were changes made to streamline the process and augment the end results.

They don’t have the original formula. That’s the point. If they knew Erskine formula in the 40s they just would have remade it in the 40s.

Bradley didn’t take Steve’s formula. He took someone else’s approximation from the 40s/50s. Which is what Nagel worked from.

The end result being similar doesn’t make it an evolution cause the bases aren’t the same. Coke and Pepsi aren’t the same soda or the evolution of one or the other. The just sodas with different processes and similar materials.

The changes in materials and process further the difference. Bucky is no more the Red Skull than he is Cap.
 

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Walker’s validation of metals for his heroism and bravery came from the same people Karli hates.

There’s definitely a tragic angle to him getting reprimanded by those same people cause he’s no longer useful.
I think that's the main thing. He said "You built me." They made him what he is, he did what they told them to for their approval. And when actions that they bred caused him to kill they threw him away. This is a very strong troop vs government story on many levels.
 

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Bradley didn’t take Steve’s formula. He took someone else’s approximation from the 40s/50s. Which is what Nagel worked from.

The end result being similar doesn’t make it an evolution cause the bases aren’t the same. Coke and Pepsi aren’t the same soda or the evolution of one or the other. The just sodas with different processes and similar materials.

The changes in materials and process further the difference. Bucky is no more the Red Skull than he is Cap.

Okay so if you use what Bradley took as the base, 'improve' it to your liking and create blue magic, it's an evolution...of an approximation of the Erskine formula. (or the "SSS" in general)

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R.C. Cola is better than Coke and Pepsi anyway.
 
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They leaning into the SJW shyt heavy. I love it on multiple levels. They are addressing shyt that is relevant to society and are on the right side of shyt so far AND pissing off cacs afraid of change and wanting America to stay white male superior. I can't wait to see them cry on YouTube all week. :lolbron:

How can these people be comic fans and not understand the history of comics? Did Cap not fight Nazis for decades? X-men not based off the Civil Right movement? Black Panther take on the KKK?.etc Why do idiots think politics and social issues in comic media is a new thing? especially when the character and franchise is called "Captain America" :mjlol:
 

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Okay so if you use what Bradley took as the base, 'improve' it to your liking and create blue magic, it's an evolution...of an approximation of the Erskine formula. (or the "SSS" in genral)

:leostare:

R.C. Cola is better than Coke and Pepsi anyway.
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But it might account for the variations in power displays. The Flagsmashers don’t seem to have the speed Bucky and Cap display. Walker doesn’t seem as agile.

Steve may have been the most stable version.
 

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But it might account for the variations in power displays. The Flagsmashers don’t seem to have the speed Bucky and Cap display. Walker doesn’t seem as agile.

Steve may have been the most stable version.
You guys are just forgetting all of Steves feats of strength. Your last impression of him is being overpowered by Thanos who even made Thor and Hulk look weak.
Steve Lifted a motorcycle over his head in first avenger,
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tossed it at people while doing a summersault, bent metal bars and threw people like they weighed nothing. all In the first movie.
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But every movie since he was usually facing people stronger than supersoldiers or actual super soldiers. John walker hasn't done anything yet that i feel is stronger than anything cap did.
 

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Im still wondering when they gonna tell us why Sam's shield is different. Did Cap have them make some upgrades to it in the past?
 

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But it might account for the variations in power displays. The Flagsmashers don’t seem to have the speed Bucky and Cap display. Walker doesn’t seem as agile.

Steve may have been the most stable version.
Makes sense. Walker she's seem more tank like compared to Cap and Bucky.

I used to be #Pepsigang but I've been RC Cola set for awhile now.
 
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