Martin Scorsese’s ‘Silence’ Gets 2016 Release Date

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Why do they force the Portuguese accent but pronounce the Portuguese names in flat American English :dead:

If I'm going to suspend belief, which I'm willing to do, and be ok with an Italian and two Portuguese priests from the 17th century speaking perfect English, why wouldn't they have accents from the U.K., even forgetting the anachronistic element

I know I'm nitpicking but language is my thing. For a movie that is driven by dialogue, you'd think someone would pay attention to this

And now I'm really going out on a limb here but Portugal has a robust film community with plenty of good young actors who would eat garfield's lunch
The accent thing kills me for some reason. I was watching the Pianist once and I couldn't get over how in the Jewish family half had straight up like polish accents or whatever and the other half of the family was straight up british accents :francis:
 

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The accent thing kills me for some reason. I was watching the Pianist once and I couldn't get over how in the Jewish family half had straight up like polish accents or whatever and the other half of the family was straight up british accents :francis:
i swear every non Arab or Russian bad guy in a 90s movie has an English accent

And if it's a foreigner outside of the Middle East or Russia, like Belgium or Chile, that character gets an English accent too
 

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This movie was really thoughtful and thought provoking. In terms of story, it's told from the perspective of an unreliable narrator, but I think if you're a strong Christian or Atheist, the narrator's perspective may rub you the wrong way (depending on how open you are to unreliable narrators). My friend who I saw it with, is very against organized religion, and she felt that the movie was trying too hard to make Christians and Christianity sympathetic. I didn't agree. I felt like the movie was about Japanese Christians and their persecution, but also the way missionaries sometimes mess up and things get lost in translation. It didn't really feel like a Christian movie to me at all. More of a movie about faith (in whatever form) and how man can twist it and use it in both good and bad ways. But I don't think either me or my friend are wrong necessarily, it may be all of those things, and that's what makes this a great film.

It was also beautifully shot. It's about 40 minutes too long though, and at some points I think everyone was trying too hard. But when it wasn't trying too hard, it was really captivating and poignant. When we left the theatre, I had a really shaky moment. It obviously hit me in a way I was expecting and me and my friends had a long deep conversation about faith and religion and colonization. So yeah, Scorsese left an impression with this movie.

In terms of acting, I think this is Liam Neeson's best work. He didn't have much screen time, but when he was on, he was fantastic. I also think Andrew Garfield is fukking brilliant. Maybe his accent wasn't quite right, but his acting was on point. I wasn't really impressed by Adam Driver. He really just plays himself :yeshrug:

I give this movie a 7 out of 10 simply because it was bit too long and overwrought in delivery, but despite all of that, its worth a watch for its emotional impact, the questions it raises, and its beauty.
 
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Still don't know what to make of this film. But one thing I do know for sure - Issey Ogata turned in the acting performance of the year.
 
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After having time to marinate on this: ultimately, its theological simplicity is its undoing (admittedly my knowledge of Endo's source material is limited - take what I post with a grain of salt). Whether its tedium v. length is meant to be allegorical or not, it still doesn't cover any new ground as it goes along, add any depth nor gives any shape to suffering/mysticism/persecution other than a square.
 

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Didn't watch but fukk those catholic missionaries, deceptive and manipulative, with ill intentions. Got kicked out the country for being snakes and attempted to return a few centuries later with the same intentions. The devil never retires
 

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I have to say that this movie can be interpreted in either direction and that's where it's beauty lies. You can easily say that his faith was reinforced at the end and that he died a true believer, or you can say that his entire journey was futile and he died holding on hope to nothing. This isn't a "religious movie", it's a fantastic movie with religious themes
 

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I thought it was great. I think people are only having issues with the length because it's not a plot/narrative driven movie. It's a movie driven by a man's increasing inner conflict as he spreads a gospel that he only perceives is getting people tortured and killed for. As such it also creates ambiguity as to what the ending means, or how you choose to interpret it.

In fact, my only disappointment with the movie was that after the great use of music in the trailer, the movie is quite literally silent. There's minimal music used and I think that only makes the movie feel more distant than it can already be at times.

Another thing, regarding the spoken English dialogue by characters who are supposed to be Portuguese and speaking either that or Latin. The common idea seems to be that it was done to make the film more accessible, which I think did play a role, but when I thought about it, it could also be the necessary trade-off between the authenticity of the language and the quality of the actors, because I think it would've been incredibly hard to fill up the cast with talented Japanese actors who also know how to speak Portuguese.
 
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