Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20..MGM

[Megadeus]

Good response


I just think he barely got away with it the the porters and DSGs of the world so I doubt this strategy works on Pac-Man who is still a top 5 welter and an ATG.

Great fight tho none the less a true 50/50 fight for me.

well see thats the thing. The way Keith Thurman fights, a victory will always look like he "almost got away with it" to the untrained eye no matter who he's facing. Thats his MO. He fights to the level of his opponent and then some. its his calling card.

This is why people keep picking him to lose, and why he continues to win. If youre not familiar with his strategy you'd be inclined to think that he just keeps getting lucky or that his opponent isnt doing enough. Frankly its why so many ppl are frustrated by him. He is the football team that wins every single game by 13 points no matter what and no one understands how.

I think the only way to beat One Time is to completely knock him out.. which we have yet to see

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

well see thats the thing. The way Keith Thurman fights, a victory will always look like he "almost got away with it" to the untrained eye no matter who he's facing. Thats his MO. He fights to the level of his opponent and then some. its his calling card.

This is why people keep picking him to lose, and why he continues to win. If youre not familiar with his strategy you'd be inclined to think that he just keeps getting lucky or that his opponent isnt doing enough. Frankly its why so many ppl are frustrated by him. He is the football team that wins every single game by 13 points no matter what and no one understands how.

I think the only way to beat One Time is to completely knock him out.. which we have yet to see

Nawl I been watching Keith Thurman since he came on the scene...He came on the scene as a KO artist but when his competition rose he added more lateral and backward movement to his game and stopped going for the KO finish all the time. He got content with winning a UD....which is good IMO. He had the nickname One-Time for a reason. Getting people out of there was his thing but now he content with winning an ugly decision if need be.

In the Porter fight and Garcia fight Thurman was the favorite and rightfully so. We seen Garcia limitations and we seen Porter limitations. Thurman just was flat out better boxer out of them. That was already established by most people. Thurman is a complete fighter no doubt. Not really many holes in his game. I just dnt think his handspeed , potshotting/countering, backfoot boxing and willingness to exchange fire is good enough to overcome Pac-Man. I just don’t think Thurman has any elite traits that’s all to push him to the top of the 147 pile.

In100% disagree with the reasoning that you have to KO Thurman to win...the way he let off the gas in some of his fights leaves him wide open to scorecard fukkery. Word to Pac-Man.

He could easily be walking around with 2Ls as it is

 

[reservoirdogs]

Still baffling to me why some ppl had Thurman vs Swift so close, Thurman won that shyt comfortably to me, Swift won like 3 rounds. Porter was a much harder fight for Keith, that could have gone either way.

 

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For the gamblers....

 

[seemorecizzy]

Best/cheapest place to get tickets? Im thinkin about makin a quick trip

 

[Megadeus]

Nawl I been watching Keith Thurman since he came on the scene...He came on the scene as a KO artist but when his competition rose he added more lateral and backward movement to his game and stopped going for the KO finish all the time. He got content with winning a UD....which is good IMO. He had the nickname One-Time for a reason. Getting people out of there was his thing but now he content with winning an ugly decision if need be.

In the Porter fight and Garcia fight Thurman was the favorite and rightfully so. We seen Garcia limitations and we seen Porter limitations. Thurman just was flat out better boxer out of them. That was already established by most people. Thurman is a complete fighter no doubt. Not really many holes in his game. I just dnt think his handspeed , potshotting/countering, backfoot boxing and willingness to exchange fire is good enough to overcome Pac-Man. I just don’t think Thurman has any elite traits that’s all to push him to the top of the 147 pile.

In100% disagree with the reasoning that you have to KO Thurman to win...the way he let off the gas in some of his fights leaves him wide open to scorecard fukkery. Word to Pac-Man.

He could easily be walking around with 2Ls as it is

I never said he wasnt a KO artist by nature. Hes a precision power puncher who likes to pick his spots. But if the KO isnt easy for whatever reason he could switch his style, get a lead up and ride out to a victory. Most KO guys cant do that, they just headhunt or die trying. He has mad layers to his fight game and he is very versatile and intelligent.

I think The fact that hes such a precise power puncher makes him immune from scorecard BS though. Judges love the clean power punch. Every fight he will string together rounds where he will haul back and drill you and snap your head back in one shot mad times. That resonates with judges early and gets a LOT of bonus points. Even if he plays safe in later rounds they remember when he was smacking homeboy around the ring from earlier rounds. If you want to win on points youre going to have to do the same thing to him at some point but by then hes already in defense/boxer mode and its too late.

Do you remember the last time Pacman thoroughly outboxed a fighter with an elite ring IQ an awkward style and dangerous power in later rounds? I particularly dont. Thats why I think he needs a KO.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Nawl I been watching Keith Thurman since he came on the scene...He came on the scene as a KO artist but when his competition rose he added more lateral and backward movement to his game and stopped going for the KO finish all the time. He got content with winning a UD....which is good IMO. He had the nickname One-Time for a reason. Getting people out of there was his thing but now he content with winning an ugly decision if need be.

In the Porter fight and Garcia fight Thurman was the favorite and rightfully so. We seen Garcia limitations and we seen Porter limitations. Thurman just was flat out better boxer out of them. That was already established by most people. Thurman is a complete fighter no doubt. Not really many holes in his game. I just dnt think his handspeed , potshotting/countering, backfoot boxing and willingness to exchange fire is good enough to overcome Pac-Man. I just don’t think Thurman has any elite traits that’s all to push him to the top of the 147 pile.

In100% disagree with the reasoning that you have to KO Thurman to win...the way he let off the gas in some of his fights leaves him wide open to scorecard fukkery. Word to Pac-Man.

He could easily be walking around with 2Ls as it is

C/S Keith does fight to the level of his competition.....but after his sporadic activity idk if that'll work with pac

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I never said he wasnt a KO artist by nature. Hes a precision power puncher who likes to pick his spots. But if the KO isnt easy for whatever reason he could switch his style, get a lead up and ride out to a victory. Most KO guys cant do that, they just headhunt or die trying. He has mad layers to his fight game and he is very versatile and intelligent.

I think The fact that hes such a precise power puncher makes him immune from scorecard BS though. Judges love the clean power punch. Every fight he will string together rounds where he will haul back and drill you and snap your head back in one shot mad times. That resonates with judges early and gets a LOT of bonus points. Even if he plays safe in later rounds they remember when he was smacking homeboy around the ring from earlier rounds. If you want to win on points youre going to have to do the same thing to him at some point but by then hes already in defense/boxer mode and its too late.

Do you remember the last time Pacman thoroughly outboxed a fighter with an elite ring IQ an awkward style and dangerous power in later rounds? I particularly dont. Thats why I think he needs a KO.

You're overeating Keith and understating Pacs ability.....also keith has been mad inactive so to point to how he was during his more active 'prime' is erroneous IMO

 

[R=G]

Nawl I been watching Keith Thurman since he came on the scene...He came on the scene as a KO artist but when his competition rose he added more lateral and backward movement to his game and stopped going for the KO finish all the time. He got content with winning a UD....which is good IMO. He had the nickname One-Time for a reason. Getting people out of there was his thing but now he content with winning an ugly decision if need be.

In the Porter fight and Garcia fight Thurman was the favorite and rightfully so. We seen Garcia limitations and we seen Porter limitations. Thurman just was flat out better boxer out of them. That was already established by most people. Thurman is a complete fighter no doubt. Not really many holes in his game. I just dnt think his handspeed , potshotting/countering, backfoot boxing and willingness to exchange fire is good enough to overcome Pac-Man. I just don’t think Thurman has any elite traits that’s all to push him to the top of the 147 pile.

In100% disagree with the reasoning that you have to KO Thurman to win...the way he let off the gas in some of his fights leaves him wide open to scorecard fukkery. Word to Pac-Man.

He could easily be walking around with 2Ls as it is

In other words, Thurman needs to.prove himself to you again.

Spence, Porter, Wilder Part Of FOX's Pacquiao-Thurman Coverage

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Tim's a funny dude lol

Maaaaan, go hold on to a truck

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

In other words, Thurman needs to.prove himself to you again.

Spence, Porter, Wilder Part Of FOX's Pacquiao-Thurman Coverage

Well both fighters have a chance to prove theirself this weekend and answer some major questions.

The narrative going to write itself after Saturday.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

A tough fight to call ...

ATM, Im kinda leaning toward Manny by a hair tho ... but that’s not firm by any means . I’ve been going back and forth for a while now .

You scared. Embrace the demise of Some Time

 

[Megadeus]

You're overeating Keith and understating Pacs ability.....also keith has been mad inactive so to point to how he was during his more active 'prime' is erroneous IMO

We are breaking down KT and analyzing his style with regard to getting decisions.. We could analyze Pac too if you want.

No one knows what hes going to look like. Thurman has been through a fight and multiple camps since coming back. His trainer said hes in good shape, its possible he's shaken off the rust. Who knows? For the sake of discussion we gonna assume hes atleast close to regular form.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

Keith can pick his sbots and he is deadly accurate with his punches. The only issue is Keith will need to ise his jab more and land more combos because Pacquiao can miss 10 punches straight but it can look like he landed 4 or 5 on you. Pacman doesnt have the boxing discipline to fight behind the jab or trouble Keith enough to put Keith in a position where he would land the left time after time.

Keith needs to jab and go after the right hand time afyer time. Pressure Pac man since Keith is the bigger guy. If he wants to come and counter, thats gonna be a lot of confusion for Keith because Pacman cant feint and throw in rapid succession then feint again and come back to land his left hand.

Its gonna be a great fight regardless but expect Pacman to be hit with some flush right hands.

Wish I wemt over the bridge to watch Thurman train.

 

[malbaker86]

Still baffling to me why some ppl had Thurman vs Swift so close, Thurman won that shyt comfortably to me, Swift won like 3 rounds. Porter was a much harder fight for Keith, that could have gone either way.

I had Keith winning both fights and I had no doubts he won either once the final bell rung